[Andreas18Productions]

Vote and please say why!!!

I am waiting replies from all the members!!

This post has been edited by Andreas18Productions: 16 January 2010 - 08:39 PM

[Payno]

Andreas18Productions, on 16 January 2010 - 08:39 PM, said:

Vote and please say why!!!

I am waiting replies from all the members!!

Maradona!!

Pele was slow.

[neryTB]

Maradona for me, he was a hell of a player. His technical and scoring abiblity was incredibly amazing. Maradone was a different player than all the other ones at his time. Pele was also a unique player but haven't really seen much of him except his most famous clips.

This post has been edited by neryTB: 17 January 2010 - 02:46 AM

[Romanista.per.sempre]

they are players of different generations, so very hard to compare.

pele played with a heavier ball, at a time when players could not do as many tricks as they can with the ultra light balls we have today(or even during maradona's era)

that said, the defences back in the 60s/70s werent as good as as sophisticated as they were in the 80s/90s.

so that pretty much evens out the conditions for the 2 players

in the end, i went for maradona. more fun to watch imo

[Milanello21]

i agree with Fantasista
but since they are called legends i would go for Pele for Two Reasons :

1- a better Role Model
2- he was actually the first Legend so it must count for smthg

[Bruno_Hott]

Maybe maradonna win this poll cuz he is more young, a lot of people watch him play, and videos on youtube is easy to find, he played on europe, pele not.

But think better

Pele strikes with 2 legs - Maradonna NO
Pele strikes with head - Maradonna NO
Pele scored more than 1000 goals - Maradonna NO
Pele won EVERYTHING WITH SANTOS - Maradonna NO, just 1 tittle with Boca Juniors and some with Napoli
Pele won 3 world Cup - Maradonna NO - Just one
Pele dont use drugs and he is a very good person - Maradonna NO hauhauhau

[S.C]

For me Maradona... he is my idol.

[Andreas18Productions]

Bruno_Hott, on 19 January 2010 - 02:43 PM, said:

Maybe maradonna win this poll cuz he is more young, a lot of people watch him play, and videos on youtube is easy to find, he played on europe, pele not.

But think better

Pele strikes with 2 legs - Maradonna NO
Pele strikes with head - Maradonna NO
Pele scored more than 1000 goals - Maradonna NO
Pele won EVERYTHING WITH SANTOS - Maradonna NO, just 1 tittle with Boca Juniors and some with Napoli
Pele won 3 world Cup - Maradonna NO - Just one
Pele dont use drugs and he is a very good person - Maradonna NO hauhauhau

I think is the best answer till now!!

[calendar]

MARADONA MUCH BETTER THAN PELE!

pele the whole life played low level state league(there hadn't brazil national league at 60's), low level army league, us league.
maradona played la liga, serie A, and argentina 1st division.
without pele, garrincha, vava, zagalo,didi also got WC1962.
There were at least 5-6 top50 all time players at 60's brazil, but at 80's argentina, maybe maradaona was the only one could be top50 all time.
maradona was the leader, pele was only a team player, he even never be the captain.

[Andreas18Productions]

calendar, on 21 January 2010 - 11:11 AM, said:

MARADONA MUCH BETTER THAN PELE!

pele the whole life played low level state league(there hadn't brazil national league at 60's), low level army league, us league.
maradona played la liga, serie A, and argentina 1st division.
without pele, garrincha, vava, zagalo,didi also got WC1962.
There were at least 5-6 top50 all time players at 60's brazil, but at 80's argentina, maybe maradaona was the only one could be top50 all time.
maradona was the leader, pele was only a team player, he even never be the captain.

yes agree but pele waws the captain alsway in Santos and do not forget that he always won the league!!!
Also he was the captain of Brasil!
With Santos won the coppa leberadores and the intercontinental !!
In some words he completed his career!!
Maradona won only a few cup!!
Pele Won 3 times the World Cup Maradone Only 2

[freedom6]

Andreas18Productions, on 21 January 2010 - 08:04 PM, said:

yes agree but pele waws the captain alsway in Santos and do not forget that he always won the league!!!
Also he was the captain of Brasil!
With Santos won the coppa leberadores and the intercontinental !!
In some words he completed his career!!
Maradona won only a few cup!!
Pele Won 3 times the World Cup Maradone Only 2

Dude, do you know how many famous players in pele's santos?

brazil national team players in 60's santos club:

Gilmar （1958，1962）
Zito (1958,1962,1966)
Mengálvio (1962)
Coutinho(1962)
Pepe (1958,1962)
Mauro（1958, 1962）
Dorval
Lima（1966）
Carlos Alberto（1970）
Joel Camargo（1974）
Clodoaldo (1970)
Edu (1966,1970,1974)
Toninho (66,70,72 santos state league top scorer)
Da silva (11 times state trophies)

there were also 3 argentine national team players in santos club, including of argentine legend menotti.

May 5th, 1963, when brazil national team VS germany national team,

there were 8 santos players at initial brazil national team. (they were gilmar, lima, zito, mengalvio,dorval, continho, pele, pepe)

This post has been edited by freedom6: 22 January 2010 - 02:04 AM

[Bruno_Hott]

calendar, on 21 January 2010 - 08:11 AM, said:

MARADONA MUCH BETTER THAN PELE!

pele the whole life played low level state league(there hadn't brazil national league at 60's), low level army league, us league.
maradona played la liga, serie A, and argentina 1st division.
without pele, garrincha, vava, zagalo,didi also got WC1962.
There were at least 5-6 top50 all time players at 60's brazil, but at 80's argentina, maybe maradaona was the only one could be top50 all time.
maradona was the leader, pele was only a team player, he even never be the captain.

Dont say bull shittt guy

on 60 years we had libertadores, world cup club, nationsl (taça brasil) and regional, PELE WON ALL WITH SANTOS, and more, on 60 all good players are stuck on brazil, was not like today, everyone goes to europe, and when played at Army team, he had 18, in brazil everyone must join on army, PELE WANTED TO JOIN LIKE EVERYONE, when he had 18, he was World Champion, Top scorer of lot of tournaments.

Pele was the brazilian team leader, Pele and Garrincha toogheter, BRAZIL NEVER LOST


ON 80 DONT HAVE ANTI DOPING, HOW MANY MATCHES MARADONNA WAS WITH COCAINE?
How knows? Pele has a clean story with titles, goals and he help a lot of people until today, while maradonna says: "keep sucking my dick" for million of people.

PELE AND MARADONNA play world cups, Pele has 12 goals, Maradona i think has 8.

I think its enough for now

This post has been edited by Bruno_Hott: 22 January 2010 - 10:50 AM

[calendar]

There were so many top players in 60's santos, but they only got 2 libetadors, (1962\1963), when it was santos' peak, not pele's peak.

Do you know argentina Independiente get 6 libetadors at pele's time?

No garrincha, pele lost more than 10 games. when garrincha joined, pele never lost, it shows garrincha is very important at pele's trophies.

Wc 1962, pele only played 1 match at 1st round , but garrincha brought the wc to brazil, garrincha is more important than pele.

When pele played his 1st wc 1958, no people know him, no player mark him, he could score some goals.

But when maradona played his 1st wc 1982, he was already the most expensive

ON 60 DONT HAVE ANTI DOPING, HOW MANY MATCHES PELE WAS WITH COCAINE?

OH, YES, WE KNOW BOLT AND PHELPS ALSO TOOK COCAINE, NOBODY DENY THEY ARE HEROS, MARADONA IS SAME.

MARADONA IS SOCCER'S GOD, PELE IS FIFA'S DOG!

[Bruno_Hott]

calendar, on 22 January 2010 - 10:40 AM, said:

There were so many top players in 60's santos, but they only got 2 libetadors, (1962\1963), when it was santos' peak, not pele's peak.

Do you know argentina Independiente get 6 libetadors at pele's time?

No garrincha, pele lost more than 10 games. when garrincha joined, pele never lost, it shows garrincha is very important at pele's trophies.

Wc 1962, pele only played 1 match at 1st round , but garrincha brought the wc to brazil, garrincha is more important than pele.

When pele played his 1st wc 1958, no people know him, no player mark him, he could score some goals.

But when maradona played his 1st wc 1982, he was already the most expensive

ON 60 DONT HAVE ANTI DOPING, HOW MANY MATCHES PELE WAS WITH COCAINE?

OH, YES, WE KNOW BOLT AND PHELPS ALSO TOOK COCAINE, NOBODY DENY THEY ARE HEROS, MARADONA IS SAME.

MARADONA IS SOCCER'S GOD, PELE IS FIFA'S DOG!

you still talking bull shits

1-first Independiente just won 2 libertadores on 60

2-Won 2 libertadores, and two world cup club, you think this is easy...ahuahua, the top surported english teams just won 1st world cup club in 1999, and on brazil we have at minimal 12 good teams, its diferent from england per exemple, that the same 4 teams are on ucl.

3-Pele dont play 62 and 66 cuz the defenders broke his legs and stuff

4-when pele has 17 he won a world champion, what maradona make with 17? inhale cocaine?
Dont compare the life outside field of Pele and maradona, pele is much better than him out and in

5- Maradonna always has good partners, like burrochaga, canniggia, looks like Pele and all other players.

The best team ever, brazil 1970, pele was the leader and principal star.

Maradona just remember to be a skillfull player, like Zico and others, Zico just dont was more called than Maradonna cuz him dont won a WC

Maradonna never won nothing in clubs, just with napoli, cuz he and careca toogther made a good story

Or be Maradonna was a drugged skillfull
Pele was the genius that gave number 10 a symbol, eveyone wants number 10 after him

KEEPING SUCKING, LIKE MARADONA SAYS (Just kidding with maradonna words)

[Daniel Pedroza]

its heresy looks like satan better than god!

[Bruno_Hott]

Daniel Pedroza, on 22 January 2010 - 12:26 PM, said:

its heresy looks like satan better than god!

i agree

Pele always better than

[Andreas18Productions]

Hey Guys it is just a thread to tell yur opinion chill out do not get mad!!!!

[Bruno_Hott]

Andreas18Productions, on 22 January 2010 - 12:31 PM, said:

Hey Guys it is just a thread to tell yur opinion chill out do not get mad!!!!

we just kidding, no worry

[Andreas18Productions]

ok keep then but i agree totaly with you that pele is better due to the number of trophies he won !!!

[Romanista.per.sempre]

Bruno_Hott, on 22 January 2010 - 01:52 PM, said:

1-first Independiente just won 2 libertadores on 60

2-Won 2 libertadores, and two world cup club, you think this is easy...ahuahua, the top surported english teams just won 1st world cup club in 1999, and on brazil we have at minimal 12 good teams, its diferent from england per exemple, that the same 4 teams are on ucl.

3-Pele dont play 62 and 66 cuz the defenders broke his legs and stuff

4-when pele has 17 he won a world champion, what maradona make with 17? inhale cocaine?
Dont compare the life outside field of Pele and maradona, pele is much better than him out and in

5- Maradonna always has good partners, like burrochaga, canniggia, looks like Pele and all other players.

The best team ever, brazil 1970, pele was the leader and principal star.

Maradona just remember to be a skillfull player, like Zico and others, Zico just dont was more called than Maradonna cuz him dont won a WC

Maradonna never won nothing in clubs, just with napoli, cuz he and careca toogther made a good story

Or be Maradonna was a drugged skillfull
Pele was the genius that gave number 10 a symbol, eveyone wants number 10 after him

KEEPING SUCKING, LIKE MARADONA SAYS (Just kidding with maradonna words)

You make a lot of sensible points, but i feel there is heavy brazilian bias in your views, and you have not given maradona enough credit. you can say Pele is better, but to belittle maradona at the same time, doesnt really support your argument


Pele played in some truely amazing teams. as you pointed out, the 1970 team was possibly the greatest ever. so how then, can we distinguish the contribution of pele to that of others? guys like garrincha, carlos alberto, jairzinho, tostao, rivelino? surely they made Pele's job so much easier, than when maradona singlehandedly(literally) won argentina their world cup in 86. anyone who follows football close enough knows that was the greatest one man performance through a major tournament, possibly EVER.

As for your point that pele won 3 world cups to maradona's 1. well, pele played in an era where that was possible. nowadays, the game is so much more competitive, and no single team can dominate consecutive tournaments(no matter how good their players are) the way brazil and real madrid did in the early days.

This post has been edited by FANTASISTA: 23 January 2010 - 01:05 PM