Well, another thread that crashed in the big SP collaps.

All rumors about our players should be here.

The best rumor at the moment is probable that Mauro Zarate's future in Quatar is unclear and he may be on his way out.
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=506899
Even if he goes to argentina again it's great news.

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Another news are that Oscar Trejo fom Mallorca dn Oscar Ustari from Getafe my be loaned out to get some game experience.

I hope he does and finds himself. He is too much a talent to be wasted and someone needs to manage his career so he goes to the right club because his agent has made loads of money out of him and is using him

there are rumors that Porto is still interested in Fernando Belluschi and Ismael Sosa.

Makes sense. The sports director at FC Porto seems to have an affinity for Argentinean players (Lucho, Lisandro Lopez, Mariano Gonzalez, Mario Bolatti and Ernestos Farias, all in the 07-08 squad) -

I think that Belluschi should stay at River, he is not going to become a star in Europe, but he is good enough to play for a major Euro team, but not enough talent to become a star. In other words, he is the kind of talent that I wish would stay in Argentina and keep our league's talent pool at an appropriate level.

As for Sosa. . . emphh . . . I hear Independiente fans say that he is really not that good, and his best season was b/c Kun carried him. But he is young enough that the upside potential makes him interesting. . .

bottom line, Belluschi moving = not a good thing, Sosa moving = potentially good.

I don't think that River will sell Belluschi. River is looking to strengthen the team, not weaken it. River is looking to add Simeone as its coach before year's end, and River is rumor to plan major acquisitions during the January transfer period. The rumors are that River is looking for possible purchases of Hernan Crespo, Sebastian Abreu, Humberto Suazo, Fernando Cavenaghi, and possibly Pablo Aimar. Obviously, River can't buy all these players, but they are planning to purchase at least two of these players. If they do sell Belluschi, it will be b/c they are raising funds to purchase an upgraded. . . ??. . . el Payaso?

aye i agree with you ricardo...fernando is much like rodrigo in that he wont be a star in europe and should stay in argentina and keep the league up to par

Palacio's situation is interesting there. Sort of like Belluschi except a year ago I would have sworn blind that Palacio was way better than almost every other player in the league and that he was bound to become a superstar in Europe and the great hope for the NT. He was just banging them in left and right, whenever he felt like it. He is still a very good player but for some reason he isn't at the level he was before. Strange.

aye he seems lost out there sometimes...its like come on get involved...the team no longer runs through him...when riquelme comes back it SHOULD get better since they had an understanding developing...

Espanol Barcelona want to buy Darío Cvitanich from Banfield and Sebastian Leto from liverpool, the latter only on a loan deal.

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/futbol-p...dasdaiftb_5/Tes

Villarreal wants Lucho Gonzalez.
The psice would be 18Mio€. Vallarreal are happy with that price!

IMO even though it would a step back it's a good move.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=515347

Liverpool wont sell leto....he has been preforming wonderful in the reserves and should get a couple more shots at the top team as time passes...atleast for carling cup and fa cup matches...although with kewell back and in good form it will be hard this year to get into the first team...

Chelsea look to be signing Di Santo... I disapprove.

Franco Di Santo, indeed, looks to be on his way to London. The Argentinean striker is rumored to have aggred to a 7 million (USD) contract, for four years.

I had hoped that he would go to a mid table La Liga squad, where he would get exposure to top flight football right away, but it appears that London is calling.

I have high hopes for this kid. He is a freaking giant, at 6'4 he could solve the national team's lack of height. I just hope that our Under-National teams call him up and secure his services to Argentina. Let's not have another Pablo Osvaldo situation

i don't think he will choose an other country as he already played for the U21 NT.
He could indeed be one of the strikers for the future.

Independiente are apparently close to signing Humberto Suazo. That could potentially be a brilliant signing.

He'll get snapped in half outside the reserves though... perhaps they'll loan him to a Spanish club to get a passport and experience without dying.

Birmingham Agree Deal For Argentine Star
Premier League side Birmingham City have reportedly agreed a deal for Argentine striker Mauro Zarate.

Birmingham are hoping to complete the signing of Argentine forward Mauro Zarate in time for the 20-year-old to face Chelsea this weekend.

According to Skysports.com, Birmingham have agreed terms for a season-long loan of Zarate view to a permanent transfer.

Zarate's club, Al Sadd of Qatar, have confirmed that talks with the Blues are ongoing.

And the player's representatives have confirmed to Sky Sports that their client is flying to England today to finalise the move.

"Al Sadd club received an offer from the Premier League club Birmingham City to seek the service of the club's Argentina star Mauro Zarate on loan from January until end of the season with a possible ultimate transfer," read a statement on the Al Sadd's official website.

"Al Sadd club has no objection to accept the offer. The club would announce a final decision within the forthcoming few days."

Zarate is highly regarded in Argentina, and there was widespread surprise in the country when he agreed to join Al Sadd, rather than a European club, from Velez Sarsfield last summer.

Now he will be on the European scene after Birmingham beat off interest from several other clubs across the continent for Zarate's signature.

The transfer is the first to be negotiated by Alex McLeish this month. The Blues boss was frustrated in earlier attempts to sign Lucas Castroman, James McFadden and David Murphy.

http://goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=549188

You beat me to it I am glad that Zaraté's moved out of that hole, but I am not sure if the Premier League is the place he wants to be at. Argentineans seldomly are succesful in England, and Zaraté doesn't have the physical baggage to compete with the defenders. Still, this transfer seems to be an improvement

Lets hope he fairs better than the last Argentine Brum purchased....Figueroa

Ah good for Zarate! When I heard he went to Qatar I was like Hopefully now he can show what he can do, he's a big lad so he could be a success in the Prem!

thank god mauro is out of quatar. I was allways impressed by him in velez, but then i was very disappoimted when i saw him at the WYC, where he was selfish and uneffective. I think he can make it into the olympic team now and proove that he's a really good player.

As I remember him from the World Cup U20 last summer, he wasn't that big, was he? I could be mistaken, but as I remember him he doesn't have the physique to play in the EPL I'm afraid.

A lot of people say this about the Prem. . . mphh??

Tevez is 5'7, Rooney is 5'10, Michael Owen is 5'8, Robbie Keane is 5'9 and Shaun Wright Phillips is 5'5. All of these guys at one time or another have had success in the Prem, all are as tall or shorter than Zarate.

Mauro is listed as 5'9 1/2, and he is only 20. He might still grow a little bit, and can work on his overall physique. His ability will ultimately determine if he makes it in any European league, is plenty tall.

please can someone tell me about patricio pato rodriguez.the 17 years old is wanted by man u.he says he
likes to play like c.ronaldo.i hope we are seeing an argentine pato.
no argentine player is known for doing stepovers.i hope he is the first.

You must've read that, from Tribal Football. Hopefully someone can move this to the Player Questions thread, ...and tell some more about this kid

http://www.diarioinformacion.com/secciones...is-cambia-rumbo

Matías Cahais, Argentina's U20 captain, was meant to move to Hercúles, in Spain's Segunda División, but now the deal seems to be cancelled. Apparently Cahais is moving to Holland, to either PSV or Feyenoord.

Real Madrid also has a first option on this kid, from when they bought Fernando Gago off Boca

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story...&type=story

Now it seems Cahais might be moving to another Dutch side, FC Groningen. He'd be much too big for that club, he'd immediately transfer to a bigger club. Maybe a good step to come to PSV

Just picked up this rumour......Flamengo are interested in the astro Riquelme if the Ronaldo and Seerdorf deal doesnt go as planned. Has anyone heard about this? If he goes to Flamengo he will have the biggest following.

FC Groningen just signed Matías Cahais, and are looking to sign a second Argentinian now. The Dutch club is seriously interested in Boca's Pablo Mouche, who was part of the team that won the youth World Cup this summer, in the same team where Cahais is captain.

The deal will only go through if Groningen's striker Erik Nevland joins Fulham this transferwindow.

I've to admit I never heard of Mouche before

Premier League - Chelsea sign Argentine star

Eurosport - Fri, 25 Jan 14:12:00 2008

Chelsea have completed the signing of Argentina Under-20 striker Franco di Santo from Chilean side Audax Italiano.
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Di Santo, 18, agreed terms last month on a £3.4 million deal, which has now been sealed. He said recently that he is looking forward to playing with some of the world's best players at Stamford Bridge.

"I cannot wait to play alongside people like Frank Lampard and Nicolas Anelka," he told Ole.

"It will be strange for me to see them in real life: I've only ever seen them on television.

"Didier Drogba is a player from another planet but I'm going to have to get used to being around such great players and hopefully I can force my way into the team.

"I love the style of English football and it was my dream to come here. I like how the game is played, how quickly everything happens.

"It is simple and very complicated at the same time. This is what makes it attractive."

Di Santo, who stands at 6'4", is determined to make it in England, citing the success of Carlos Tevez since his move from Corinthians to West Ham and now Manchester United.

"[Tevez] is a teacher. It will be an honour to play against him and I would love to change shirts with him.

"I really want to impress. I don't want to let anybody down because there are a lot of people back in Argentina waiting for me to make them proud."

Chelsea are fighting for trophies on four fronts. They have a FA Cup clash against Wigan at the weekend, will face Tottenham in the final of the League Cup and are still in the Champions League and title race.
Jonathan Symcox / Eurosport

Mascherano: I Want To Leave Liverpool For Juventus Javier Mascherano has declared that he wants to leave Liverpool, and has spoken about the possibility of a move to Juventus.


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supposedly, Pool won't pay the full price for Masch to stay full time at Pool.

I really hope that he settles somewhere. I think that a player needs consitancy to reach his potential.

Lyon offer 15Mio€ for Garay

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/...lo/1082196.html

GALLARDO TO JOIN MLS

Another Designated Player signing took place in Major League Soccer on Monday, as D.C. United acquired Argentine midfielder Marcelo Gallardo. The 32-year-old playmaker, who most recently played with Paris-Saint Germain, will join the side in preseason training in Bradenton, Fla., after he is formally introduced to the media on Tuesday.

"Throughout his career, Gallardo has been a dynamic attacking midfielder known for remarkable technique, impressive speed and quickness, and an uncanny knack for providing service to his teammates," said D.C. United President and CEO Kevin Payne in a statement. "He has led teams to major championships in Argentina and France, and has been a star at every level for the National Team of Argentina, including playing in the 1998 and 2002 FIFA World Cups. We are thrilled to have a player of his caliber joining D.C. United."

Gallardo has had success in both France and his native Argentina. In between two stints with River Plate, he starred for Monaco between 1999-2003. In 2000, he led the team to the French Ligue 1 championship and the Trophee Des Champions (Champions Trophy) as the country’s Footballer of the Year. Gallardo also helped Monaco capture the French League Cup in 2003 before leaving to return to River Plate.

Gallardo, whose nickname "El Muñeco" (the doll) refers to his 5-foot-6 frame, spent a total of 10 seasons with River, helped the storied club win three Apertura championships (1993, 1994 and 1996), two Clausura titles (1997 and 2004) and one Copa Libertadores cup (1996).

"We are pleased to have such a talented and distinguished player joining our club," said D.C. United General Manager Dave Kasper. "Marcelo has had tremendous success at both the domestic and international levels, and we look forward to his future contributions to D.C. United."

As an international, Gallardo has earned 44 caps and scored 14 goals with Argentina since making his debut in 1994. He played in the 1998 and 2002 World Cups and was also a member of the 1996 Argentine Olympic team that were silver medalists.

-- Goal.com USA

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=566158

Maxi Moralez back to Racing?

I know some people here are really excited about this kid, and this can only be a good move for him.

according to Marca Espanol Barcelona wants Cvitanich.

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/...lo/1109267.html

Sevilla and Valencia are interested in Jonas from Mallorca.
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/...lo/1113621.html

Portsmouth want to sign Licha Lopez
who they think they are to buy a player from Porto?

What is that supposed to mean?

May be he is saying Portsmouth can't afford him or is not a big enough club for him... or both. I agree with him.

ON TOPIC:
I made a list of players from Argentina's league i consider should be bought from Europe Clubs on Summer.

River Plate:
(GK) Carrizo, Juan Pablo (on loan from Lazio)
(DF) Villagra, Cristian [Villarrea]
(DF) Ferrari, Paulo
(MF) Ahumada, Oscar [Lazio]
(MF) Ponzio, Leonardo
(MF) Fernández, Augusto [Fiorentina or Lazio]
(MF) Abelairas, Matias [Schalke 04]
(MF) Buonanotte, Diego
(FW) Sanches, Alexis (on loan) [Udinese asks for 20m e / 11m e Man. Utd.]
(FW) Falcao García, Radamel [River asks for 15m e][/b]

Boca Juniors:
(DF) Paletta, Gabriel (on loan from Liverpool)
(DF) Monzón, Luaciano
(DF) Maidana, Jhonatan
(MF) Ledesma, Pablo [Lazio]
(MF) Dátolo, Jesús
(FW) Palacio, Rodrigo [Barcelona and Sevilla / 20 m e Chelsea]

San Lorenzo:
(GK) Orión, Agustín
(DF) Bottinelli, Jonathan
(DF) González, Adrián
(MF) D'Alessandro, Andrés
(FW) Bergessio, Gonzalo (on loan from Benfica)
(FW) Menseguez, Juan Carlos

Independiente:
(GK) Assman, Fabián
(DF) Mareque, Lucas
(MF) Calello, Adrián
(MF) Rodriguez, Patricio
(FW) Denis, Germán
(FW) Sosa, Ismael

Racing Club:
(GK) Navarro, Hilario [Atl. Madrid]
(DF) Mercado, Gabriel
(MF) Yacob, Claudio
(MF) Sanchez, Matías
(MF) Fileppi, Cristian
(MF) Moralez, Maximiliano (on loan from FC Moscú)

Estudiantes:
(GK) Andújar, Mariano
(DF) Angeleri, Marcos
(MF) Benitez, Leandro
(FW) Piatti, Pablo

Lanús:
(DF) Velázquez, Maximiliano
(MF) Pelletieri, Agustín
(MF) Valeri, Diego [Juventus or Villareal]
(FW) Acosta, Lautaro

Banfield:
(FW) Cvitanich, Dario [Ajax on 11m u$s.] CONFIRMED

Rosario Central:
(GK) Álvarez, Cristian [Atlético de Madrid]
(MF) Costa, Tomás [Porto FC 4 m e]

In Bold the players i consider should be playing in Spain/Italy or England.

Outside of Argentina (players i consider will be leaving their teams):
(GK) Ustari, Oscar (Getafe FC)
(DF) Cata Díaz (Getafe FC)
(DF) Garay, Ezequiel (Racing Santander) [Barcelona]
(DF) Coloccini, Fabricio (Deportivo LC) [Barcelona and Sevilla]
(MF) Zabaleta, Pablo (Espanyol)
(MF) Jonás Gutierrez (Mallorca) [Portsmouth]
(MF) Aimar, Pablo (Zaragoza FC)
(MF) Luis González (Porto) [Barcelona and Atl. Madrid / 25 m e]
(FW) Trejo, Óscar (Mallorca)
(FW) Lisandro López (Porto)
(FW) Fernando Cavenaghi (Bordeaux)
(FW) Mauro Zárate (Birmingham, on loan from Al Arabi)
(FW) Mariano Pavone (Betis)
(FW) Marco Ruben (Recreativo Huelva, on loan from Villareal)

Afford him? Of course we can. We could offer him more money than he is on at Porto. Maybe we aren't a 'big enough' club to sign Lopez, but to say



Porto are too good club for us to buy players from? lol.

It's like some month ago, when Villareal wanted to sign Lucho. Porto is a world class Team playing CL every year, Portsmouth is what, 30 point behind ManU? It's like trying to sign Torres from Liverpool....

How can you call a team world class? You can't compare two teams from a different league in this respect. Getting into the Champions league is far more difficult in the Premier league than it is in the Portugese league. The Premier league is attractive enough for a player.

I am not saying that we will an attractvive enough club for Lopez, but to suggest we are not good enough to negotiate with Porto as a club is ridiculous.

Why not?

UEFA Champions League 2008:

Group A:

Porto FC 11 pts
Liverpool 10 pts
Marseille 7 pts
Besiktas 6 pts

Then 1-0 and 0-1 with Schalke 04 and lost by penalties.

I'm not saying Porto is better than Liverpool, but they are for sure in good shape this season. They won EVERYTHING in Portugal, and López is almost tired of scoring goals.
Dude, don't take it personal.

I read on a newspaper Portsmouth would offer 16 millon euros...

If they sold Pepe and Anderson for 30 millon euros each. And reject the Valencia's offer for Lucho Gonzalez (18 millon euros) IMO Porto should be asking 25 millon euros.

You can't compare the domestic league to the Champions league, it's completely different. I didn't say Porto aren't a good side, if they are the best side in Portugal then fine, I'm not disputing that, but the Premier league is a much harder league. Qualifying for the Champions league through the Premier league is much harder than it is in the Portugese league.

How can anyone say that we arn't good enough to buy players from Porto? We have bought players from Arsenal and Chelsea.

We are also still being linked with Jonas Gutierrez.

Good list Riquelme +10) We've been linked with Villagra and Valeri, they play in positions we need strengthening in. LB and CMF, I'd love to see Valeri join us !

Yes. UCL is more important.

No shit! You could have told me that before dude.

I wonder if this has to be with 3 places for group stage and one for the third qualifying round for the EPL and on the other hand only 1 for group stage and another to the 3rt qualifying round from Portugal...
what do you think, mate?


Of course, and Los Angeles Galaxy bought a player from Real Madrid. Are you being serious?

Lisandro López is not "a player" for Porto HE IS THE PLAYER.
I know, in Vélez they were waiting for the sell, they own a % of his rights.

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Mmmmm, it won't be easy (cheap)

Lanús will ask for a fortune for Valeri (IMO 10m euros) and River will sell many players, but not defenders. May be if they bought one or Villareal causes a temptation... who knows?

BTW, you should ask Ruben to return, Franco is shit and Tomasson will be granpa soon

Maybe to some teams.



If it's that obvious, why did you use it to compare in your previous post?

No, this has to do with the Premier being a far more comeptitive all round tougher league than the Portugese league, but you already knew that.



Why the sarcasm? This is what I was disputing. The original post I quuoted suggested we wern't a good enough club to even think about dealing with a club so good as Porto, whether we were trying to sign Lisandro Lopez or someone else. Clearly you agree with me.



I have heard good things about him, although there are quite a few clubs who are interested in him now. Could be difficult to do a deal as he is part owned.

I compared Porto and Liverpool on the UCL. Comparing leagues would be: Porto is the champion of Portugal and Liverpool is 4th, ergo Porto is better.

Dude i think you're not following me.
Lisandro Lopez is not A PLAYER, he was THE PLAYER of the season. Sure you can buy without any problem almost any player of the team. But Lisandro López, Lucho Gonzalez and Quaresma aren't any player.
Did you understand my example of Beckham going to USA from Real Madrid?
Portsmouth can buy players from Manchester Utd., Milan, Liverpool, Barça, everyone. But NOT THE BIGGEST STAR OF THE TEAM. That's a difference, tell me if it's clear enough, sometimes it's difficult for me to express this type of ideas in english.
Dude, Jonás Gutierrez is a HUGE player but he is underrated, don't know why.

It would be a great deal for you, hope he'll play in EPL soon.

Ok fair enough, maybe we are misunderstanding eachother a little. The original point I made was about a comment made that we were not a good enough club to deal with a club such as Porto regardless of which player we wanted to sign. This was what I was disputing, not that we could sign Lisandro Lopez. I agree that it is unlikely that we could sign Lisandro Lopez as he is likely to have some big clubs trying to sign him.

Gutierrez was close to joining us in January, I think we will try to sign him again, although our interest seems to have alerted a lot of clubs.

Wasn't jonas close to EPL last year as well? IMO his statue and speed is very ood for the EPL.

Yes, to Portsmouth....

It would be a great step for him.

I like Jonás, and i want him to be on his best form from Argentina, but if he keeps playing for Mallorca this is unlikely, he is now a 2nd rate player for Basile.