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For those who don't know, Ron Reed is a sports columnist (Don't think that's the correct term, but whatever) for the Herald Sun. Every now and again Ron will drop a column on one of the usual two football pages and in my opinion, the majority of the time he speaks nothing but bullshit.

Here's an article from today off of the Sun's website.

QUOTE(Ron Reed in today's Sun)
MELBOURNE Victory's troubled defence of the A-League premiership all but died at Telstra Dome on Saturday night - but for Australian soccer's reigning premier the disappointment surely didn't start and stop there.

With so much at stake for Victory, and Adelaide United still smarting from the 6-0 humiliation in the grand final, this should have been a blockbuster, pulling at least 30,000.

Instead, it was just 22,466, barely better than the season low of 20,938 for lowly Wellington's long-distance visit only two weeks earlier.

The faithful were rewarded with an an engrossing contest featuring some of Victory's best and most aggressive football of the year, and a last-gasp climax - but only a lucky and inadequate 2-2 draw.

The crowd dynamics made for a strange mood. At times the crimson-clad South Australians, in the new zone for visitors, seemed to be making more noise than the locals, who sounded strangely subdued.

Victory prides itself -- and rightly so -- on its ability to pull big crowds, smashing records last season and occasionally topping 50,000 at the Dome. The AFL struggles to do that. And the colourful spectacle and family-friendly atmosphere have been a huge plus for a sport determined to claim its rightful place in the mainstream.

It is a priceless asset that needs to be protected.

But a problem has developed - one that Victory chief executive Geoff Miles admitted two weeks ago needed to be nipped in the bud - and it was more in-your-face than ever.

Well before kick-off, about 150 young fans gathered on the footbridge and staged a protest about what has become an on-going grudge - the accommodation they are offered inside and, apparently, whether they are allowed to stand up in the upper levels.

They carried banners reading "redneck Telstra Dome", "football for fans not corporates" and "Telstra Dome killing active support since '06".

That was harmless enough.

But the bulk of their performance was offensive and threatening.

They chanted an obscenity linked to someone's name as well as "die, die Collins" - an obvious reference to stadium manager Ian Collins - and "burn down Telstra Dome".

Police in riot gear, armed with guns, batons and capsicum gas, watched unsmilingly from a short distance while thousands of fans walked past on their way to the game, alarm and anxiety on some faces.

To their credit, there was no trouble - they had dispersed by halftime, either to watch the game or boycott it - but it looked and sounded ugly.

Whatever the rights or wrongs of their argument, this is not the image their game or their club needs.

Precisely who they are escapes this column because Victory's support base is split into factions and they seem to enjoy baiting each other.

But according to club sources they regard themselves as the most loyal of the lot. Yet they're in danger of giving everyone a bad name - and for what?

You'd think most fans would welcome the chance to watch their team in a large, modern stadium with plenty of room as distinct from their old home at Olympic Park, with its cramped, old-fashioned facilities. That's why soccer and the rugby codes will soon have a flash new place of their own.

And as for demanding to stand on the upper levels - there's a reason why the stadium bans that. It's dangerous. The higher you are, the steeper the slope, and the more trouble everyone is in if someone loses balance.

Get over it, guys. Your team's got enough problems on the field without its biggest and best asset -- its supporters - causing any more, or dropping off in droves.

reedr@heraldsun.com.au


Not all the report is bullshit, as a lot of it is fact, but when his personal opinion comes into play it's when I think to myself 'hey, does this old bloke know what he's talking about.'

I walked past the protest just off the bridge at the Dome on Saturday, and I couldn't catch what they were saying but in my opinion, so long as there is no violence and no physical injury a protest of any sort is fine. The Dome doesn't have any set rules on chants/songs and such on their premises do they? I don't see what the problem is if nobody is getting hurt. I've got no idea where this guy has go 'anxiety and alarm' from, I didn't see a single nervous face.

There are different opinions on whether people should be allowed to stand on level three, some may agree or disagree. In my opinion, it should be allowed, so look as it's in the upper tier of the stand meaning behind entrance to the 'aisle'. I understand the reason for not allowing people to stand in the first several rows of the third floor, but standing should be allowed once the stairs going up begin. The higher you are the steeper the slope? I don't think so Ron. I find sitting in the first few rows of the third floor is a lot steeper than the seats above. I'm not sure what he's expecting level three to do when a goal is scored, sit down, clap and shake the hands of the people sitting next to you? dry.gif. His ending comment has angered me, as he's not talking from a fan's view, he's more or less talking from an outsider's view, trying to take a cheap shot at our game. I've lost count of the amount of times I've wanted to EMail Ron telling him to shut up and look at other areas of sport, because out of the journalists: Grantley Bernard, Peter Desira, Tom Smithies, David Duvotavic and anyone else who might make the rare appearance, Ron is by far my least favourite read, he's losing the plot if it isn't already lost.

Agree? Disagree? Discuss
ragnarok
A more subtle attack on soccer than we're familiar with, he's just taken facts and then put a negative slant on them with his own opinion. Not that that will matter to soccers detractors, they'll take the little grab and run with it. While I dont agree with how melbournes supporters seem to be split (I dont know much about it though) or perhaps some of their methods but I dont think that anything they've done has brought the game into disrepute, i'd much rather supporters demanding a better quality stadium experience than having the games stars being arrested like other codes atm.

And AFL fans and clubs alike have been complaining about telstra dome for years now, but none of them have the balls to actually voice it, i'd almost say it shows that soccer fans care more about the game and creating a real community around a club than other codes.
GunnerVictory
i started a thread about this crap, its always going to happen when you have non football people doing football pieces. the only person i saw have an issue with what happened was him and surprise surprise he is a journo

now i am not labling all journo as poor but this is a cheap shot that football always gets, i mean they do a protest with no violence just chants and now thats seen as hooliganism its a fukng disgrace

     
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