I have been meaning to start this for a while now and after seeing Deans request and the subsequent discussion in the Suggestions forum, here is the UFC thread that I have wanted to open for fucking AGES. To be honest my knowledge of MMA outside the UFC is pretty sparse, but I really got into the sport after seeing Sean Sherk and Matt Hughes roll around and pound several shades of shit out of each other a couple of years ago.

Now with Bravos ever expanding coverage of the sport, pretty much every pay per view, the Ultimate Fighter Reality TV Show, the odd All access show as well as the odd UFC Fight Night, the exposure the sport is getting is unreal. It has already had 2 pay per views happen in the United Kingdom as is returning to Newcastle in the next month.

My fave fighters are Anderson Silva, Forrest Griffin, Nick Diaz and Karo Parisyian. These guys on their game are so fucking entertaining. Silva doesnt waste a single punch. Griffin is the peoples hero in my eyes. He wont back down form anyone, in fact demnaded a shot at the highest ranked 205 pounder in the world, Shogun, after UFC signed him up and then SUBMITTED the legend. Nick Diaz is just such an increidble well rounded fighter and Karo, while a bit of a omuth piece has an extraordinary style of take downs via the art of Judo that makes him so different to the rest.

Plenty of other guys are worth paying money for, but these are my faves.

Lets talk UFC guys!

i got tricked in here!

i do not like ufc ... and still i managed a post here ... good luck with this, alan!

HAHAHAHAA SUCKAAAA!!! Cheers though!

Well, pre show favorite Mac Danzig walked awa the Ultimate Fighter and with a 6 figure contract after easily taking apart Tommy Speer in an incredible display of technique agaisnt one of the surprise packages of the show. Mac cruised through all his fights and his experience really helped him in his quest to reach the Holy grail that is the UFC.

saying that, I would love to have seen him fight Matt Aroyo on the show. Matt had only 3 fights under his belt, but has incredible Jiu Jitsu as he displayed as he spectacularly spun around and caught John Koloshci in a crazy arm bar. But the fight of the night had to go to Jared Rollins and Jon Kopenhaver who beat each bloodt and senseless in a barage of elbows, fists and incredobel turn arounds....with Kopenhaver eventually get the victory.

Well I don't like this type of combat, but I did watch some matches specially when Cro Cop (Mirko Filipović) made his progress first in Pride and then in UFC, well his form currently isn't the best one since he lost two fights in a row and also lost to some let's say avarage fighter like Kongo and that brasilian guy Gongaza who made him lost by his own weapon high kick... Hopefully he'll return in 2008, but it's difficult to expect to be on the same level he was in Pride coz he's getting old...

Ya, Cro Cops debut was impressive. You had to feel sorry for his opponent. Cro Cop is just so big and such a scarey looking mutherfucker too though. I mean, his an elite soldier in the Croatian defence forces! You're not talking about some dude who just won a couple of street fights, this guy has seen REAL combat. Mentally alone that would fuck you up.

Saying that, as you said, I was surprised, like everyone else I guess, that Gonzago took him out, espcially with the highkick even though it was technically executed PERFECTLY from the Brazilian. But Gonzago then took his hiding from Couture which was a massive disappointment. Everyone wanted to see Randy take on the Mirko.

Saying that losing to Cheich Kongo isnt as bad as you make out. That guy is an animal and has imporessed me in his fights. I think he is going to fight Tim Sylvia for the now vacant Heavyweight Championship seeing as Randy couture has left the UFC due to a contractual dispute.

Yeah Cro Cop didn't get used to to some UFC rules like elbows, in that match vs Gonzaga, Gonzaga killd him with those elbows when they were down... I mean when they got up in the final of the first round, it's was clear that Gongaza will win this since Mirko was already loosing his power...

As for Kongo, yeah he also impressed me, can't believe he didn't to so much in his career so far, being so good puncher...

They dont show UFC in germany. There was a time where they were showing PRIDE though. And now I have to settle down with K1

Your missing out man. Its the best MMA out there I think. I love the Cage and the use of elbows that you dont get in other MMA assocations. K1 just sucks in my opinion. I couldnt get into that at all. PRIDE you do see some great fights and fighters in, hell, its where all the new blood of the UFC that has gotten people excited are from. Dan Henderson, Cro Cop, Rampage Jackson, Shogun, Noguiera.....the list goes on.

There is one fighter i really liked. Wanderlei Silva. How is he doing in UFC? I have herad that he is going to have a fight vs Chuck Liddell...who do you favour in this match?

Man i want to see some good MMA again. Any good DVD's available?

EDIT: Yeah you are right, in PRIDE they aren't allowed to use elbows I think. And K1 is missing the mat-based action and the submissions which i freakin' LOVE

Wanderlei hasnt fought in the UFC yet as far as I'm aware...well, not since I have been following it anyway, he may have had a fight or two before. But this fight with Chuck has been in the making for about 2 and a half years now. There was even a face off between them back 2 years ao in the Octagon but the fight got postponed due to Silvas contract or something. But its on now and scheduled for a month or twos time.

I, personally, think Silva will destroy Chuck. Its a shame, but Chucks game has dropped massivley in the last 6 months. He was top dog for so long and, make no mistake about it, probably was the baddest bastard in the planet and one of the best strikers ever to step into an MMA ring with the power he could generate alone, but he has suffered defeats now at the hands of Rampage (admittedly, little shame in that, Jackson is a fuckin ANIMAL) and Keith Jardine. While Jardine is no schmuck, he should still have been cannon fodder for the Iceman, but Liddels performance in that fight was poor beyond belief.

If we see that Chuck again, Silva will WIPE THE FLOOR with him. Chuck needs to pick his game back up, or else he will need to retire.

As for DVDs, fraid I cant help you there. I dont really do fight dvds for some reason. Much prefer just hunting for a PRIDE fight online or watching an old UFC fight night on Bravo or something.

Thanks for the info mate. I just hope i can download the fight somewhere. Or maybe it will be on youtube lol.

I hope Silva wins because, like I said I really liked him at PRIDE. How is that Daniel Puder doing? The guy who had these feud with Angle.

Who would you rate as the top5 in MMA?

Sorry for asking you all these questions. I just would like to catch up on it a little bit.

I havent seen much MMA outside of UFC unfortunately, so I havent actually seen this guy fight. Though I have heard he is the real deal. On the topic of ex WWE stars, Broc Lesner is going be main eventing a pay per view in a couple of months time against former World Heavyweight Chmapion Frank Mir. Mir was a superstar with incredible submissions and picked up the title, but had to sacrifice it after a nasty motorbike injury. He has fought 3 times since his return but is slowly gettig back to being as good as he was. The fight with the powerful Lesner will be a tough one, as Mirs biggest weakness I have seen has been him gassing in the latter rounds. But I think it should be a good fight. mir has all the technique to combat Lesner, plus, for a submission speicalist, he has pretty awesome strength due to his wrestling training as a kid.



Thats a toughie...again, I can only go on UFC really and Net clips, but my 5 top guys are as follows:
1. Anderson Silva
2. Quinton Rampage Jackson
3. George St Pierre
4. Randy Couture (at heavyweight, not fast enough for the lower weight classes anymore)
5. Forest Griffin

Silva is just the most ruthlessly clinical Muay Thai boxer I have EVER seen. 9 out of 10 of his punches find a way through to their target nearly. Its devastating, plus he beat Rich Franklin TWICE with relative ease.

Rampage is just an animal and a very likeable guy as well. Strong as an ox, powerful wrstler and ruthless ground and pound.

St Pierre may be the most gifted athlete to ever set foot in the Octagon. He has all the skills to win back the title he lost to Matt Serra and then basically NOT lose ot for as long as he wants. He ahs the strength that Matt Hughes has that made him such a dominanat force in their weight class for aeons, but also the technical ability to win standing up and to win submission....he can also take a serius punching....just ask BJ Penn

Couture may simply be the best ever. I know he wants to fight Fedor Emelienko and that and him being paid less than Chuck Liddell is one of the main reasons he has walked away from and vacated the UFC Heavyweight title. He retired after losing to Liddell a while back but stepped up to the Heavyweight division, where he took on the 6 foot 7 giant Tim Sylvia, and comprehensively picked apart a guy he gave up nearly a foot against. It was an astonishing display of fstrenght and dirty boxing from the old man.

Forest Griffin...ok this guy is a personal fave....he is like the peoples hero. He won the first Ultimate Fighter reality show 5 seasons ago for a 6 figure contract in the UFC. And since then he has been robbed of a victory agaisnt Tito Ortiz and was beaten by Jardine, however, he has come back and took apart the fighter ranked number 1 in their weight class, Shogun, in Shoguns UFC debut. Griffin wanted redemption for losing to Jardine and demanded a fight against the Number 1 guy in the world....not only did Griffin win the fight, but he submitted the Jiu Litsu specialist and is now the number 1 contender for Jacksons title. I HIGHLY recommend looking for his 2 fights against Stephan Bonnar....one was the Ultimate Fighter finale and is regarded as one of the great slug fests of the UFC.




No problem man....I enjoy having someone to talk to here....its kinda quiet at the moment and looking to get it started!

Wow, thanks for the massive info mate . I ahve seen Lesnar's Debut-match against some japanese guy I think. Originally he should have faced the giant hong man choi.

I definately have to check out some matches of these guys you have mentioned. Maybe youtube can help me out.

Is the Silva vs Liddell match on the 29th december?

I havent seen Lesnars fight. I understand it was a pretty impressive display of his power. I've read about that Korean giant, Hong Man Choi, he is fighting Fedor Emilienenko in a pay per view in Japan organised by the guys who used run PRIDE that didnt go over to UFC. Fedor is regarded as the best heavyweight in the world...I have only seen 1 of his fights, against Matt Lindland on line which is pretty impressive, but you dont get regarded as the best in the world and be PRIDE Heavyweight Champ for 4 years without being somebit good.

As for the Liddel vs Silva fight, ya, thats on the 29th of December...and its not even the main event! The main event was SUPPOSED to be for the Welterweight Championship, Matt Hughes vs th Champ Matt Serra, but Serra has fucked a disc in his back and has been replaced by George St Pierre...the former Champ who defeated Hughes to win the belt less than a year ago. They have fought twice previously and have one win each. Whoever wins will then become "interim" Champ and will fight Serra when he comes back to be labelled the undisputed Champion. It promises to be a great fight as well...both guys are so strong. Hughes the better wrestler but only barely but St Pierre is better all round and is younger....

I cant wait for both those fights!

Hey guys, it's good to see fellow UFC fans around!

I can not wait for the next UFC on the 29th, however I wanted to see the Hughes-Serra fight so bad!

But that's ok I guess, because GSP is my favourite anyway! His technique and skills are just unbelievable.

He is going to be the next champ again!

Ya me too....the 2 guys just hate each other so much. Plus, Serra isnt as bad a fighter as I thought. Hughes would probably slam him a bit but Serras Jiu Jitsu is pretty kick ass!

All the same, as you say, GSP v Hughes will still be good. Really, whoever wins this one will be seen as the undisputed better of the other guy seeing as they both have one win over the other bloke. Hughes has also said how he thinks he only has about 3 or 4 fights left in him, so I question his confidence at taking on a young superstar like GSP!

According to the UFC website, for all you Wanderlei Silva fans, there is an All Access style show on MTV2 on friday before the fight at 10om Eastern Time. I have no diea when that will be broadcasted over here in Europe, but I know I will be recording the pay per view that will be shown on Sunday on Bravo!

I have seen the big fight. Silva vs Liddell. It was a good fight IMO, allthough very tactcal in my view. I was kinda surprised to see that Silva did not go for the takedown and to apply some submission manouvers. A big win for the Iceman

All i can say is i need more

Watched the whole show last night after recording it. The 2 main event fights were excellent. The under card was shite bar the first fight of Clementi vs Guillard (Who is absolutely shit and I have never seen any reason why he still gets fights) and the 2 guys have years of hatred between each other. Eventually, Clementi took him down and choked him out and there was a little bit of post fight winding up as well which was fun.

The next 2 fights were pretty disappointing. Sanchez for some Aussie guy who came in with a banger reputation but was perfectly happy to just hold Sanchez against the Cage while Sanchez dirty boxed his face into a bloody pulp. Shit fight.

Next one was Lyonida Machida who looked very skilled to be fair, against a Cameroonian kid who was making his UFC debut who came in with a big reputation for brawling called Sokoudjo, but I think the nerves go the better of Sokoudjo to be fair as he never really threw a punch in aggro and Machida controlled and eventually choked him out. Would recommend watching the second round (or at least I'm sure its the second round) just for the skill in whcih Machida worked the choke...rest of the fight sucked.

And the 2 big events. Liddel Silva was exactly what it set up to be. Both were VERY aware of how good each other were so it was cagey for a while, but when an exchange happened, both swung for the fences. Liddel deservedly won on a decision as Silvas face was a bloody mess of bruises and cuts, but Silva didnt look out of this fight by any stretch of the imagination. He ate some MONSTER punches and stayed up. While you were surprised he didnt work any ground submissions, I was amazed he didnt get his knees going in a clinch. The thing about Chuck is that his ground game is such an unknown, because no one ever can ever get in to take him there, but he is a good wrestler. But there were opportunites for Wanderlei to get a clinch going and start shoving those knees right into Chucks face and ribs.

And lastly the main event, never, not once, have I seen ANYONE dominate Matt Hughes like that. George St Pierre is incredible. He won the title from Hughes in fairly comprehensive fashion and then lost it stupidly, himself admitting his ehad wasnt where it should be, and rightly lost it to Serra. But here, man, he is just so quick, so athletic, so strong and his wrestling game has improved hugely. He took down Hughes as if it was second nature and grounded him down until he got a beautiful submission that ended in an armbar, but could easily have gone to a Comorra or a triangle with the legs. It was an amazing display.

GSP, if he approached every fight in that frame of mind, will BOSS the UFCs welterweight division for as long as he wants to. He is simply incredible

Well, UFC 80: Rapid Fire is just around the corner. It takes place next week on Saturday night and will be televised to UK & Irish audiences on Sunday night on bravo.

This is the fight card:



The main event will be a fucking cracker. Both guys are great wrestlers and have killer submissions. Stephenson has unreal upper body strength that lets him stick in chokes from unusual positions, his specialtiy being the Guillotine Choke from his back in half guard. But BJ Penn is one of the most dangerous ground opponents out there as he has incredible flexability and take down defence which generally suggests that when he gets taken down, its because he wants to be taken down.

Another fight to watch will be the performance of Kendall Grove. He is a winner of the Ultimate Fighter TV Series and has really shwon great signs of improvement every time you see him. Wilson Gouvaiea is a guy I have only seen fight once but I will enjoy checking him out again as he seems pretty good too and Gabriel Gonzaga will be ooking to get back on form after losing his Heavyweight title fight with Randy Couture.

Forgetting TOTALLY that this event is actually on in Newcastle, it is actually gonna be shown live on Setanta on saturday night...which is a pain in the ass as I dont have the stupid channel.

Though I will probably have to invest in it as after July, every single UFC pay per view, be it US or UK held, will be televised only on Setantas channels, thus meaning that Bravo are losing the rights to it.

Balls!

I was going to go to this event (went to the ones in London and Manchester) but Newcastle was a bit of a trek.

Watching the 80 event now, which is a shame to miss live, as BJ Penn is one of my faves.

Still, my avatar is a tribute to the great Anderson Silva, due to face Dan Henderson in a couple of months.

EDIT

UFC 80 was a superb event, great display by BJ and totally dominant. All the fights were pretty exciting and hardly any decisions.

2008 should be a good year for MMA

Havent watched this yet....currently downloading a torent of it. Will comment after watching...I still have no idea who won what. Wondering if I can hold out until tomorrow!

Well, my cunning attempt to get this has failed after my torrent downloading at dialup speeds

Looks like I missed some good fights. Like yourself, I'm a huge BJ Penn fan. His style is so rounded and unorthodox with his flexability. He has also proven to be a calculated striker with that fight agaisnt the VERY experienced Joe Stephenson. But Joe will be back also, he is a top class fighter really. Looking forward to Sherk-Penn now. The Muscle Shark vs the Prodigy!

Ya, your ava is pretty cool man. Anderson Silva is an animal. I cant wait to see him fight Dan Henderson. It could be one of the greats and its what the UFC has been plugging for for a few months now...pretty much since Henderson and Silva signed up.

Anyway, tonight there is a Fight night, not exactly sure where or if its televised here in the UK & Ireland, but the headline main event looks to be a belter. Mike Swick is at last dropping down to the 170# division instead of punching, literally, above his weight. This guy is so talented and well rounded and tries to entertain in every fight. He is fighting Josh Burkman who trains with Tito Ortiz and is no chump himself.

Other guys looking to continue to impress will be Nate Diaz, younger brother to fellow UFC'er Nick, Kurt Pellegrino, who has a brave but unanimous loss under his belt against Joe Stephenson and Patrick Cote vs Drew McFediris should be entertaining enough....but all I really wanna see is the main event...Burkman against Swick will be a cracker!

Hmm, this thread is so far from the action I forgot to respond . Have to scroll all the way down!.



BJ Penn is pound for pound possibly the best fighter around. He has superb hands and if you notice he is a natural lightweight, but has fought at higher weights vs Matt Hughes (1 convincing win for the belt, and one loss after dominating 2 rounds then breaking a rib when transitioning); vs GSP (tight split decision but outstruck GSP in the first round, who then resorted to takedowns and 'lay n pray')

He also fought against the underrated Lyoto Machida at light heavyweight. Close fight but he just about lost having packed on so much weight he looked like the michelin man

All in all, a super fighter who hopefully will destroy the boring as hell Roid Shark.



This fight could be crazy, as it's a pure clash of styles. Silva is a phenomenal striker and Dan Henderson is an Olympic calibre wrestler with huge punch power. Both will utilise the clinch game and both are incredibly difficult to knock out so it could go all 5 rounds. Really should be great.

2008 should be really good, and being a Pride fan, I'd like to see Wanderlei, Shogun, Crocop all come back after a poor end to 2007. I think once they've adjusted we may well see some cracking fights. Certainly, Forrest is going to get destroyed by rampage after TUF and then the LHW division is wide open (as long as Dana doesn't give his boyfriend Chuck another Title shot at Rampage, he's lost twice already ffs).

Next event coming up is Tim Sylvia vs Nogueira which hopefully will see the end of Tim. Tim's hope is to jab away at a decision and his size is so awkward, but if Nogueira gets him down, then it's going to be an armbar or Triangle submission.

Brock Lesnar makes his debut as well against Ex Champ Frank Mir. Mir's a shadow of his old self but can probably submit Lesnar in seconds due to his BJJ, but Lesnar is a freak so this could be interesting. Lesnar will grab Mir, take him down explosively and pound him. The question is will Mir get pounded out or will Lesnar get subbed whilst on top??

Setanta have got the rights from July, so may well get it then as you get Arsenal TV as well . mma-tv on sopcast (they also have premium streams from their site) are really good and show all the live ppvs.

Lesnar got pwned...got too ovcerconfident or his inexperience started to show...he started off really impressive though

I havent meant to let this slide, I have the UFC recorded, but it clashed with the Superbowl hence why I havent seen it yet...

But when I do I will comment, make no mistake about it!

I didn't watch the event but I read a play-by-play of it. Lesnar's lack of BJJ training really screwed him over. On UFC all access he mostly trained strength and striking(which looked terrible by the way).

Agreed. BJ is a perfect icon for the UFC. He is unbelievably well rounded and he also has a sense of uniqueness about him with his unbelievable, possibly unsurpassable, sense of balance to avoid takedowns.

I really hope he guns Sherk down too. Lost a lot of respect for him after the Roidness....even though I did enjoy his fight with Matt Hughes a few years ago, but no druggie cheat fuck should even be allowed touch a UFC ring, not without serious penance paid anyway.



Agreed. I cant wait for that fight. I havent had the pleasure of watching a proper Henderson fight yet, but the reviews and the hype around him make him a must see. Silva I am a gigantic fan of. His striking is so cold and calculated. I dont think I have ever seen an MMA'er throw punches and have them hit their targets with such unbelievable accuracy.



Last thing I would do if I were Rampage is under estimate Forrest. Look at Shogun and how he was beaten down by Griffin. Rua was seen as the best in the weight class in the world and we saw one of the fights of the year there and Griffin winning out thanks to all the hard work he has done in going from being a raw hard working loon to a seriously well rounded fighter. Saying that, I do think Rampage will win. His power style is perfect for countering Griffins I'll-punch-you-in-the-face-more-ties-than-you-punch-me style!



Cant wait to watch that as I have said. Its sitting on Sky+ box as we speak but I got the Ireland U-21s on right now. Will watch as soon as its over....in fact, may catch one fight at half time!

Big Nog vs the Maniac....christ I hate watching Sylvia fights. The most boringest fighter in the UFC. All he is is a big strong dude. Any guy who has superior talent to him he just grappels and pins to the cage....see Brandon Vera for example. And they really are the shittiest fights. Nog though, is a different breed of grappler and submission artist to most of the UFC and after all, it was a similar styled fighter in the in his prime Mir who beat Sylvia in his most famous bout!

Just finished watchin the event. Some dull fights but a couple of good performances there too. Tim Boetsch on the under card was VERY impressive. A great display of striking and brute force from him. The front kicks were insane!

The Guillotine by Marquardt on Horn was immense. Standing Guilltoine bringing such an experienced guy to his knees.....impressive stuff from Nate The Great

Mir vs Lesnar was pretty decent i thought. Lesnar came out like a house on fire. Took Mir down in no time and was slowly smashing the former champs face in before that ref knocked the point away. Even afterwards Mir ate a few elbows as well, but Lesnar stumbled into Mirs world getting lucky with a few armbars before the kneebar took out Lesnar.

If he had perhaps been a bit calmer and more aware of just how good BJJ artists are, then he might have managed to at least get the fight to last longer!

The main event was surprisingly entertaining for a Sylvia fight. Great first round for The Maniac. Knocked Minatauro on his ass with a good punch. Second round Minatauro was a bit more comfortable before the 6 seconds of Nog dominance....the most important 6 seconds of the match. How he takes such beatings and then pulls it out of nowhere is a mystery to me. Awesome display of Jiu Jitsu from 2 top heavyweight Jiu Jitsu fighters!

Well, we're 3 weeks away from another one of the most eagerly awaited bouts in UFC and MMA history. 2 former PRIDE fighters, arguably 2 of the best Middleweights in the world today, are going at it in an attempt to unify th PRIDE and UFC titles at this weight class....Anderson "The Spider" Silva will take on Dan Henderson. One of the best strikers in the world versus a world class wrestler and well versed submission artist. The atypical, stand and fight versus ground and pound.

The under card is nothing to be sniffed at either, Heath Herring vs Cheich Kongo promises to be an absolutely BRUISING heavyweight encounter with 2 series brawlers in action....there promises to be blood in that one. Add to that, the experienced pair of Evan Tanner and Yushin Okami will should also be a good display of wrestlers looking to smash each other apart as Okami, much against the grain of your standard Japanese fighter, loves to mount and pound rather than work submission manouvres.

Here is the completed card:



Why the UFC keeps giving Gurgel and Leben chances is a mystery to me. They both failed in the Ultimate Fighter reality TV series and both have taken hidings in the face of in any way difficult opposition. Sakara has been no roaring success either, but I expect him to do over Leben....if he doesnt, than Sakara should probably consider working in a Wallmart or something.

Andrei Arlovski is, of course, a former Heavyweight champion and has great striking, although he also possesses a weakish chin which is a brutal weakness for a striker to have, Diego Sanchez is a Ultimate Fighter winner and is an excellent wrestler and jiu jitsu fighter, but the guy I would like to see most on the Prelim Card, is Luke Cummo. He was regarded as the worst fighter in his Ultimate Fighter series, picked last, and he made it all the way and gave Pre Series fave, Joe Stephenson and unbelievable run for his money, escaping from seemingly cast iron submissions and utilizing a devatating clinch and Muay Thai skills.

I will be so pissed if Arlovski's fight doesn't get televised. It's been so long since I saw him fight. It's a shame his opponent is just going to try and Lay and pray the whole fight. Hopefully AA can get a quick knockout.

I reckon we wont see it unfortunately. If there is TV time, it would be a tough call from the Prelim card to see which fight would be shown. Arlovski is the big name, but I would rather see hom Cummo is doing. I havent seen him since the Ultimate Fighter where he impressed EVERYBODY!

The surprise of the last UFC pay per view, Tim Boetsch, has come in yet again as a late call to face highly rated wrestler Matt Hammil. Hammil has worked incredibly hard on his game to learn the other aspects of MMA, his stand up in particular has improved drastically and he has shown he can bang a bit and take a few punches as well. Being a wrestler, Hammil, of course has brutal upper body strength, so the physical tools to be a brawler were always there, the technique needed a bit of work.

Will be interesting though as Boetcsh is no midget and wont be easy to boss around! Could be a very good match up I think!

Rumours for UFC 85 in London England.

Chuck vs Shogun headline

Werdum vs Vera.


2 potentially excellent fights.

I've heard about UFC 85 in London and I may head over to it. My Sis lives there so accomodation would be freebie and all!

UFC 82 is just around the corner now. This Saturday night, televised on Sunday night on Bravo for us UK & Ireland UFC fans. Cant wait to see Silva and Henderson go toe to toe. 2 of the worlds most skilled fighters across all the divisions. Its going to be amazing!

Here are the official weigh ins for those of you who might care.


UFC Middleweight Championship
Dan Henderson (184.5) vs Anderson Silva (185)

Heath Herring (248) vs Cheick Kongo (233.5)
Yushin Okami (184.5) vs Evan Tanner (185)
Chris Wilson (169.5) vs Jon Fitch (170)
Alessio Sakara (185) vs Chris Leben (185)

Jake O’Brien (231.5) vs Andrei Arlovski (241)
Luigi Fioravanti (170.5) vs Luke Cummo (170)
Dustin Hazelett (170) vs Josh Koscheck (169.5)
David Bielkheden (170) vs Diego Sanchez (169.5)
John Halverson (155) vs Jorge Gurgel (154.5)

Kongo is giving up a fair bit of weight to Herring. That should be a great fight. Kongo has been going around making shit of tough opponents now for the last 12 months. Could be in line for a title shot if he gets past Heath.

The top 3 fights are all excellent looking. Tanner has always been a kinda fans favorite and just has soemthing about him when he steps into an Octagon ring plus Okami has been pretty impressive winning over highly rated Swick and McDonald with only a loss to former champ Franklin on his UFC record. Could be a good tough battle between those 2.

But the headline fight is what everyone wants and has wanted since PRIDE was bought out by Dana White and Zuffa. Silva is such a scary boxer, I really cant wait for this event!

And the UFC versus Captain America, Randy Couture, saga rumbles on!



Things going from bad to worse with regards to the relationship between the UFC and its Hall of Famer!!!

Well, its official, Anderson Silva is an MMA machine and the UNDISPUTED champion at 185. Yet again, he manages to take an opponent out without seeing the round coutner go beyond the number 2. This time, it was, many say, the one guy in the world with the best chance of taking him out due to his rough and rumble but still technically sound style, Dan Henderson.

The first round was pretty good, a few exchanges, Silva throwing a few kicks, as per usual, all coming from different angles, and Henderson was fending them off relatively comfortably. Then Hendersons got a take down and, while in Silvas half guard, hammer fisted down on the Spiders skull, but Silva, with a crazy Zen like calm, didnt panic and worked his way into full guard and eased the round out. The second round started similar to the first. Some exchanges and then the fight went to the ground (Kinda forgotten how ) before Silva wrapped a body trianle on Henderons and choked him out forcing Dan to tap.


He is incredible!

henderson was dissapointing to be honest, another loss showing that pride wasnt as good as the ufc

To be fair, Silva is a PRIDE fighter too....its somehwat ironic that Hendo came in as a double PRIDE champ and lost both titles to former PRIDE fighters in Rampage and Silva. I know Silva has been in the UFC a bit longer to be fair, but he did still fight in that organisation a bit.

Chris Leben and Allesio Sakara fought it out in the battle of "who-sucks-least-and-will-get-another-undeserved-fight" and Leben won out. Sakara is fuckin awful and Leben blows when he comes up anyone who isnt a tramp in the octagon....really wish they would stop giving guys like this fights and push guys like Cuomo and Guida more!

Haven't posted in this thread for a while.
82 was a decent event and the man in my avatar showed why he was so great. during round two, Anderson took a Hendo punch and egged him on to hit him, showing no respect for his power. Hit him and dazed him with a straight punch and glancing knees.

Took control on the ground, took his back/body triangle and game over.

Beautiful performance by my second favourite fighter (after BJ Penn)

Kongo/Herring was a solid fight as well.

Next event should be interesting with GSP in Canada trying to get his belt back.

As for Pride fighters, well, you have Nog who is the HW champ, Rampage who is the LHW champ and Silva who is the MW champ.

3 out of 5 belts is hardly a bad showing , with Wandy and Shogun yet to get settled and Sokodjou having to adjust himself to the cage. Not to mention Fedor, Barnett, Lindland, Sakurai, Gomi, Aoki etc aren't even in the UFC.

UFC 85 is in London, and if anyone wants tickets, the presale newsletter password is "iceman".

SHogun has pulled out from fighting the iceman due to re-injuring his ACL, which is a big shame, but we also have Werdum vs Vera and Marcus Davis vs Mike Swick. Should be a solid event.

Really looking forward to UFC 84 though, it is a crazy card with:

B.J. Penn due to kill Sean Sherk (for lightweight title)
Keith Jardine going to be destroyed by Wanderlei Silva
Lyoto Machida making Tito Ortiz his bitch
Rashad Evans getting KOed by the Chutebox rising star Thiago Silva


As for Legionarius; Sakara has talent, he has good BJJ (brown belt I think) and a technical boxing background (pro record). He has the worst chin in the world though, which means he won't succeed and most likely will be dropped.

Pretty much cant argue with that. I do think henderson had more in him, but I still cant see a way for him to beat Silva, Even when Silva was on his back, getting hammer fisted in half guard, he was totally calm, not a bother that one of the best ground and pounders in his weight class was on top of him trying to work into a position to unload.

The Herring/Kongo fight was bizarre. There is no way I expected it to go the way it did and I actually thought Konga had edged it as I thought he had Herring on his back more and had more control of the fight. It kinda surprised everyone though that it didnt go the way of a standup slugfest that everyone was hoping for!



True, but the likelyhood of Fedor joinging UFC gets slimmer and slimmer every passing day that Dana White does the business thing and play down his ability and of course, the whole Randy Couture saga when the 2 of them really wanna get their hands on each other. Lindland has some cage experience and I would like to see him come back....Gomi is one I am very itnerested to see more about and Sokoudjou will get better, he clearly suffered from Big Night nerves in his fight agaisnt Machida.



Really gotta start into looking for tickets for that, The sister lives in London so accommodation is sorted. Plus, Quick Swick is one of my favorite fighters. Really like his style. Gutted about Shogun though. He would have been a real challenge to Chuck and would have been looking for a big time come back after the Forrest Griffin fight.



Pretty much cant argue with any of your fight predictions, though I think Evans is the one most likely to upset your scorecard. Cant wait to see BJ take apart the Muscle Shark.

Is the repeat on Bravo this weekend?

I dont know. It was televised on Bravo last sunday night. I dunno when they show repeats.

Bravo 2 tends to show random events every time I flick through there.

Worth keeping an eye out.

From July or August, you guys should just get Setanta which'll show everything live.

Not to mention the added bonus of Arsenal tv, which any football fan will want

what a picture (got this from another site)

Holy frickin crap...what an image!

And ya, Setanta will be a 100% totally necessary purchase come the summer. Will be gutted if I miss out on UFC!

Good Grief, Shogun Liddell is now Rashad Evans/Liddell.

Evans/Thiago Silva is off.


Liddell Evans is shortchanging us Brits. They should really have another co-main event.