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-allie-solskjaer-
I love hockey..anyone here like it or watch it? My favorite team ..well my home team is the Canucks.. Did anyone here about "The Bertuzzi incodent"? Well he punched steve mooore in the back of the head, not meaning to but he broke his neck..so Big Bert was susepended for the rest of the season and the play offs, and now he is being charged with assult. WHAT THE HECK!! if your a hockey fan please reply..oh Bert is a Canuck, and moore was from the Avalanche..I say free Bert!!
Carlos™
I used to like the Los Angeles Kings when Gretzky played for them.
Macca
I saw that punch. Disgraceful.

I dont follow hockey lots. too many games, but only because of their name and colours I like the New York Rangers.
Carlos™
LOL #$@% the FLyers, Florida Panthers!!!!!!!!!!! thats my team!
Christoval
not this again. if you watch teh tapes.. yes he punched him, maybe even knocked him out, but the punch alone didnt break his neck, teh falling down and getting jumped on by 6 other 200 pound guys did. Its very sad to see moore's career in jeopardy, but bertuzzi was not the sole contributor to this, and shouldnt be chraged as the sole contributor becuase of that.

Hes forfeited pay, hes been suspended. I dont think we need to put him in jail, because hes clearly learned his lesson. Fair justice not only means getting what you deserve in return, but also not going over the limits of justice either.

I think people are missing that.
Juventino Sempre
GO MONTREAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Christoval
QUOTE(AdolfTrashtalk @ Jun 26 2004, 09:11 PM)
good point shearer... looks like you and ole are on the right track allready seeing how you think alike... what do u think ultrasur???? adolf
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I think we have a giddy school girl named adolf.
Ill remember this for when something happens with you bud, no worries.
Carlos™
We shall become more tranquil at this point, theres no need for insults and or crazyness...but #$@% with Chris and your fucking with me and the rest of the team.

But please do go on, i enjoy watching you guys respond......
Christoval
im cool with that.

kid_a
Alright guys (and girls) lets calm down.
First of all SuPeR~sUb^Ole*Solskjaer and Adolf welcome to the "other sports" thread, I am your host fpc. Let me commend you two for your choice of names, SuPeR~sUb^Ole*Solskjaer for having to write all that down when you sign in and Adolf for chosing the worse possible name this side of "osama".

About the "bertuzzi incident" well this shit has a life of its own now and though its true that it was a cheap shot you cant really blame the guy for doing something that the league itself allows. And to press charges? that is just too much, you would have to arrest half the league.
m7792
The league knew it was bound to happen
they didn't do anything for the headshot by Moore on Naslund.

Bertuzzi has suffered enough. If Steve Moore does sue Bert, he will lose ALOT of respect from people around the league.

I hope Bertuzzi will return if there is a next season like a man possesed.
I love the Canucks
PSV#3
QUOTE(Juventino Sempre @ Jun 26 2004, 07:14 PM)
GO MONTREAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You're from Toronto and your for Montreal??? What the hell???? Are you insane?? Yes, I'm a Leafs fan, I hate Ottawa and Montreal, don't like Vancouver that much either. And no, despite what you other Canadians see, not all Leaf fans are assholes. Most are arrogant though. laugh.gif

Bertuzzi is a goon for doing that to Steve Moore, absoultely horrible. I'd give him a one year ban, he could very well go to jail though. What pisses me off is that people who know jack shit about hockey are commenting on how long he should be suspended, just shut up!

I recently found out Steve Moore (the guy who got punched) went to my old school, freaky.

Hockey is a great sport, it's too bad America doesn't like it as much as Canada, or else the NHL wouldn't be in so much trouble. sad.gif
Christoval
lol, different opinion if it were some buds goon though eh. domi and tucker.. there would be national outcry
bob
QUOTE(AdolfTrashtalk @ Jun 27 2004, 12:46 PM)
Sorry about the name fpc.  I will take some time to explain it. 

                My name AdolfTrashtalk is derived from our very own attorney general - John Ashcroft.  IMO John Ashcroft is sort of like a dictator, ie.  monitoring emails, imposing laws that are ridiculous etc.  That is where "Adolf" comes from... yes that's right derived from the imfamous Adolf Hitler, for reasons that i mentioned above. 

                Then, Trashtalk comes into play because most of what JA  says are lies.  But that is no different from any politician i guess.  Anyway that is where trashtalk comes into play.   

                  I hope you guys better understand now.  matt
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Fits perfectly. Great choice.


I'm a diehard L.A. Kings fan. This is our year. laugh.gif
kid_a
Adold I misunderestimated you (where is that from?)
Just the fact that youre an anti-administration goon means you're one of mine. I hope you understand how easilly it can be taken as a Pro-Hitler reference. There's still time to ask Shearer to modify your name laugh.gif
Christoval
I have time for everyone.. just pm me if you want a change.

Cheers
Chris
bob
QUOTE(AdolfTrashtalk @ Jun 27 2004, 04:42 PM)
Do you guys really think i should change my name?  If you do then I will.  Let me know.  matt
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it's fine as it is.
michaelparks11
It is sad what is happening to bert he shouldn't be charged and i believe moore will ask to have the charges dropped becuase it was a freak accident in the game. Also Bert should come back next year even though his hit was a cheap shot. The Canucks could have gone to the stanley cup last year if Bert was there. clapping.gif
michaelparks11
Also the bertuizzi hit was in response to a cheap shot on nasluand earlier in the season
StickyNote
I agree Michael, but you can't have people in hockey going around hitting people on the head with hockey sticks. I hope Moore drops the charges because I think it WAS a freak thing and nowadays you aren't given second chances as often. adolf
-allie-solskjaer-
WOW!! guess what I jsut found out today!?!?1 clapping.gif ...my friend's brother John Lammers was drafted to the Dallas Stars!! and so was this guy at my school Ben Walters, and today at this Canada day celebration I met another guy who was drafted to the Stars..Ray Segala or something like that!! I'm so happy for John!! he is such a awesome hockey player!!
Radolno
I've been a HIFK fan for all my life. Haven't had a season ticket, but I've been in their games often. For your information, HIFK plays in the Finnish primary league, SM-Liiga. It's the kind of team that makes it to the headlines everytime. You either love the team or hate it, they say.. and I love it! They're been known from their aggressive style of play.

Here's a few players who have left to NHL from HIFK in the past few years: Zidlicky, Rafalski, Kapanen, Jokinen.. Zidlicky was my fav player for a long time.
-allie-solskjaer-
QUOTE(fpc @ Jun 26 2004, 08:34 PM)
Alright guys (and girls) lets calm down.
First of all SuPeR~sUb^Ole*Solskjaer and Adolf welcome to the "other sports" thread, I am your host fpc.  Let me commend you two for your choice of names, SuPeR~sUb^Ole*Solskjaer for having to write all that down when you sign in and Adolf for chosing the worse possible name this side of "osama".

About the "bertuzzi incident" well this shit has a life of its own now and though its true that it was a cheap shot you cant really blame the guy for doing something that the league itself allows.  And to press charges? that is just too much, you would have to arrest half the league.
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lol..thanks...If they press charges I'm gonna go down to the building and stand out side protesting..or I'll stand out side of GM Place protesting...
-allie-solskjaer-
QUOTE(PSV#3 @ Jun 27 2004, 03:29 PM)
You're from Toronto and your for Montreal??? What the hell???? Are you insane?? Yes, I'm a Leafs fan, I hate Ottawa and Montreal, don't like Vancouver that much either. And no, despite what you other Canadians see, not all Leaf fans are assholes. Most are arrogant though. laugh.gif

Bertuzzi is a goon for doing that to Steve Moore, absoultely horrible. I'd give him a one year ban, he could very well go to jail though. What pisses me off is that people who know jack shit about hockey are commenting on how long he should be suspended, just shut up!

I recently found out Steve Moore (the guy who got punched) went to my old school, freaky.

Hockey is a great sport, it's too bad America doesn't like it as much as Canada, or else the NHL wouldn't be in so much trouble. sad.gif
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lol..my dad used to live in Ontario..so he's kind of a Leaf's fan..but I'm a Canuck's fan till the end..and I hate Montreal.. can't stand the french...I don't mind Ottawa..they have my favorite player Peter Schaffer...when Bert played for the Guelf storm, my uncle was the Zabonie driver and after his shift he would talk to him..and my uncle said that Bert was a really nice guy,a nd he would have never done something like that unless he was being pestered, or really hated the guy. Bert has served his time, he should be allowd back in..
michaelparks11
Anyone else here that Joe Thorton from the Bruins signed with a team in the Sweden Elite league does this mean he won't be in the NHL next year?
Pepe
QUOTE(michaelparks11 @ Jul 9 2004, 02:15 AM)
Anyone else here that Joe Thorton from the Bruins signed with a team in the Sweden Elite league does this mean he won't be in the NHL next year?
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He signed with a Swiss team. He was a restricted free agent and he was getting frustrated at the stalling CBA talks, and no new contract.
He isn't the only player to sign a contract with a overseas team this off-season and he won't be the last, but the amount of players hopping from NHL to the overseas leagues will be dictated by how the CBA talks go.
michaelparks11
Yah i noticed that about the oversea signings. Also the bertuzzi hit, Moore was more injuried by the fall onto the ice then the hit even though it was a cheap shot!
m7792
They all have a clause in their contracts.
If there is a NHL season next year
the players can opt out of their European contracts

imagine all the players who can from MODO of the Swedish Elite League going back and playing for them groupwave reversed.gif
Naslund, Foresberg, Sedin twins, Ohlund just to name a few

michaelparks11
QUOTE(m7792 @ Jul 12 2004, 04:11 AM)
They all have a clause in their contracts.
If there is a NHL season next year
the players can opt out of their European contracts

imagine all the players who can from MODO of the Swedish Elite League going back and playing for them groupwave reversed.gif
Naslund, Foresberg, Sedin twins, Ohlund just to name a few
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Ya i noticed that it actually makes since just when i first saw it on ESPN i was wondering what it was about smile.gif
-allie-solskjaer-
The other day in the paper..it showed a picture of Bert's house with a for sale sign on it..and same with Naslund's house..so I'm guessing that Bert and Nazzy are leaving the Canucks.. sad.gif
-allie-solskjaer-
The other day in the paper..it showed a picture of Bert's house with a for sale sign on it..and same with Naslund's house..so I'm guessing that Bert and Nazzy are leaving the Canucks.. sad.gif
PSV#3
the NHL is screwed. Bobby Hull is bringing back the WHA, not sure if that will do well either.

Joe Thorton in Switzerland? He will rip up the league!!!!!!!
Pepe
The league is close to hitting a big down time. It isn't inevitable yet but if things don't change soon it maybe.
charon
QUOTE(AdolfTrashtalk @ Jun 27 2004, 10:02 AM)
SSOS, that punch about killed the guy.  I don't think we should free him. adolf
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thats just stupid, its a sport, every time you go on the feild, ice, arena, whateva, you take the risk that you might die win you go out there, and i saw it and i didnt think that he intentionaly tried to kill him obvosily, sure a lengthy suspension was warrented but the whole season including the play-offs, disgracful, and assualt charges, man what a joke, i thought that was what sport was all about, well hockey anywaz,
charon
a cunucks fan myself, thats where i saw my first ever hockey game when i went to vancouver, thats a great place, nice weather, chicks are hot, happy they signed dan cloutier back on a one year deal, love naslund and ohlund, we are going all the way this year, win the prince of wales and stanley cup...
revarsenal
penguins fan, although thats hard to say these days. i was born in pittsburgh, and played hocky till i was 14.

bertuzzi incident. like other people have said. it wasn't the hit, it was the sliding on the ice and the pile that did it. but if he hadn't gotten hurt, it would have just been on in a million similar hits in the nhl, only this time the inevitable happened. although it was relation from a previous game and hit, but moore was already in a fight earlier in the game because of it, so bertuzzi's action was superfluous.
-allie-solskjaer-
I was just watch sportsnet yesterday..and Wayne Gretzki was talking about Bert, and saying how stupid the leauge is being..they're going to court with this thing now. there better be a season next year..I can't live with out the Canucks.. and to revarsenal..moore probally wounldn't have been to hurt if his team mates hand't jummped on top of Bert..and crushed they're player..and to chelsea 4 life why are you happy that Cloutier is back for another year?! ..I don't like Dan very much..hes not very reliable..I mean..he got injured in the play offs..thats not very reliable..and he got about 6 groin pulls..in the season laster year..but whatever..atleast we got a golie for this season..and Naslund is the best..hes my favorite..along side Morrison!~ smile.gif
revarsenal
i agree it should not go to court. this is a sporting matter and not a criminal matter. people intentionally hurt people all the time in sports, especially in hockey, and i do not see how this should be any different.

when roy keane's book came out and he said he purposely tried to break the guys leg, didn't it just go to the fa? i'm being serious, was this pursued legally.

you cannot have a sport like hockey that embraces violence, the fighting, and advertises it to its public, and then condemn a product of its own creation. if he hadn't gotten hurt, this may have been a promo on espn or fox. the nhl is hypocritical. until you limit the hits, you cannot just punish where people get hurt.
PSV#3
Well, what broke Steve Moore's neck was not the punch obvoiusly it was when Bertuzzi fell on him and drove his head onto the ice. Watch the replays you can see which point his neck broke, it wasn't the pile up after. If Todd Bertuzzi goes to jail for manslaughter so be it, you live with the choices you make.
PSV#3
QUOTE(revarsenal @ Jul 30 2004, 10:19 AM)
you cannot have a sport like hockey that embraces violence, the fighting, and advertises it to its public, and then condemn a product of its own creation. if he hadn't gotten hurt, this may have been a promo on espn or fox. the nhl is hypocritical. until you limit the hits, you cannot just punish where people get hurt.
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First off, ESPN and FOX are desperately trying to get some rating casuse they are losing money with this TV contract with the NHL. Secondly, they don't understand half of the nature of hockey, hockey doesn't emrace violence, yes there is fighting etc.,etc. , but we encourage putting the puck in the net more than anything.

The NHL has the stupidest commisoner in all of sports who actually looks like a weasel. And we got a lockout between the owners bitching about something they gotta pay for and the players not getting thier deal. The NHL can burn in hell for all I care, just don't take the original six with you becuase I know my sport will live forever.
revarsenal
hockey embraces the hard-hitting nature is what i'm saying.

and the collective bargaining agreement can kiss my ass. granted this is athletes livelihoods and their jobs, but when you makes millions in nba, nfl, mlb, nhl, i hardly care about your demands. just go out and entertain me bitches. try complaining to a job with a real job about unfair pay.
revarsenal
try complaining to a job with a real job about unfair pay.


oops

try complaining to a guy with a real job about unfair pay.

how can a job complain to a job, its, i mean, oh, and eh.
Christoval
QUOTE(PSV#3 @ Jul 30 2004, 12:19 PM)
Well, what broke Steve Moore's neck was not the punch obvoiusly it was when Bertuzzi fell on him and drove his head onto the ice. Watch the replays you can see which point his neck broke, it wasn't the pile up after. If Todd Bertuzzi goes to jail for manslaughter so be it, you live with the choices you make.
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manslaughter????

did i miss a death or something?
PSV#3
QUOTE(Shearer @ Jul 30 2004, 10:51 AM)
manslaughter????

did i miss a death or something?
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oops, i think i was think of Dany Heatley there. Yeah, that's right Burtuzzi got charged with assault and Heatley got charged with manslaughter.
-allie-solskjaer-
QUOTE(PSV#3 @ Jul 30 2004, 10:19 AM)
Well, what broke Steve Moore's neck was not the punch obvoiusly it was when Bertuzzi fell on him and drove his head onto the ice. Watch the replays you can see which point his neck broke, it wasn't the pile up after. If Todd Bertuzzi goes to jail for manslaughter so be it, you live with the choices you make.
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I think its so stupid that Bert doesn't get to play for Canada..and the only reason went after moore was because moore hit naslund 3 games before that..he had it coming..and should have been expecting it..and Bert shouldn't have hit him from behind..he should have come full force in front, and nocked him backwards, rather than breaking his neck..but w/e..life goes on..and if moore is a decent guy he woun't press charges..
charon
QUOTE(SuPeR~sUb^Ole*Solskjaer @ Jul 31 2004, 02:09 AM)
and to chelsea 4 life why are you happy that Cloutier is back for another year?! ..I don't like Dan very much..hes not very reliable..I mean..he got injured in the play offs..thats not very reliable..and he got about 6 groin pulls..in the season laster year..but whatever..atleast we got a golie for this season..and Naslund is the best..hes my favorite..along side Morrison!~  smile.gif
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im happy cause he seems to be the most constistant goaltender for the cunucks, i hated snow, he was just plain crap,
-allie-solskjaer-
QUOTE(chelsea 4 life @ Aug 2 2004, 03:31 AM)
im happy cause he seems to be the most constistant goaltender for the cunucks, i hated snow, he was just plain crap,
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hes not bad..but hes not very reilable. Who's snow?..oh waite..I think I remember him. I really didn't like Weeks. He was horrible.
Christoval
we just lost the moose to a swedish team sad.gif hedberg was teh best back up in eh nhl too.. gotta love it when jim hughson said "GREAT SAVE HEDBERG!"

heh, good times
-allie-solskjaer-
QUOTE(Shearer @ Aug 6 2004, 11:04 AM)
we just lost the moose to a swedish team sad.gif hedberg was teh best back up in eh nhl too.. gotta love it when jim hughson said "GREAT SAVE HEDBERG!"

heh, good times
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aw...I like Headburg.. sad.gif wasn't it "GREAT SAVE CLOUTER"
Christoval
he did both thumbsup.gif just hedberg sounds better.

hopefully they get this lockout bullshit sorted out. i want to watch hockey dammit.
     
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