After my moving out of Utah back to Florida, I could not keep up with that famous thread among Madridistas.
Now here are the rules for all of you Newbies that never saw it.

1-I'll ask a question regarding our team, and then you will answer it. When i see it fit, I will ask another (this could take up to a day sometimes).
2-If you are not a Real Madrid fan please enjoy this thread as well, I welcome all points of view and answers, but BE ADVISED.
Any disregard for the TOS (terms of service) for SP will result in a warning, and possible revoking of membership depending on the violation.
3-Have fun, we are all fans here just put your best answer into it, and be nice to others as they will be onto you as well.
4-Once again HAVE FUN!

Well, here's the 1st question:

Is it time for Ronaldo to call it quits in Madrid? Is his recent form here to stay, and should Owen replace the fat Brzilian after all?
Ya'll tell me!

If i was Perez and some club offered me the same amount of money that we bought Ronaldo from Inter to buy Ronaldo from us, i would happily sell him. He is a superstar, a world class striker, without a doubt the best in the world in his day but 40% of the time he is a dissapointment, he does have some attitude problem also and i dont think he is a player who gives 200% for Real.

Ronaldo is a fantastic forward! So is Owen but I can't really see why we have to sell Ronaldo. He is going through a rough patch right now but it is obvious that it's not going to stay that way. Soon he will be at his very best again and proving that he is one of the best strikers in the world! I definitly wouldn't call it quits yet!

Next time Ronaldo scores one goal or two all this talks will be over ... ronaldo will be happy so will real and the fans as well ....

I could care less about Real Madrid. But I want whats best for him. He is at a big club and getting starting time. And I hate the disrespect some show to him during his bad patches. He has gotten many goals already. Selling Ronaldo to make room for Owen is silly.

But I will not complain. Because I'd rather see the legend play for another team outside La Liga. Because I know that Owen is not as good. So I'd rather see Ronaldo play at Inter and Real Madrid get worse. It is a bonus for me either way.

Sorry if I am not making too much sense right now. I am too tired to post clearly.

As much as I love Ronaldo, I think he should be sold at season end UNLESS he makes his mark from now on. If he fails to perform then he should be sold and I dont think Owen should take his place. We need a new fresh striker in Madrid. We have a long list of choices starting with the best of the best: Adriano.

Well here are my 2 cents.

I think that to assume Im set to sell Ronaldo (if I did have that power anyway, LOL) is not because of his playing, I know players go trhough shitty times (look at Raul).

Where I'm getting at is his attitude, he is disrespecting the team by showing up late, and by "primmadonnazing" himself too much by giving him godlike status.
And to answer the eternal question whether Ill be happy he is scoring again...well gusy I hate to break it to ya but THATS HIS JOB, and a regular employee that wasnt doing his/her job would get fired for less money a year than our mighty legend is receiving at the moment.

Most people forget how much money these people do get paid to be stellar, to be part of a team that is by no means ordinary, thats why the checks read 5 or 6 figures a week.

So will I be releived when he scores again?? Yes. Will I want him gone at the end of the season?? Well it all depends how much he gives for the team in and off the pitch.

#2
What will happen in Turin, and how will it develop? In your own words tell me, what is to be the fate of Real Madrid, and who will be the faces determining it?

Ok I will start this one, I think that our fate is simple. Is what we make of it really, if we play like we did at El Bernabeu then we are bound to score. Delle Appi is a big place, but it can be just as cold to us as to Juve themselves, being that Italian fans are also as unforgiving as Spanish.
Anyhow, I think that Lux oughtta play a 5-3-2 and take the advantage in counterattacks.

I beleive key players for us will be ZZ, and Grava, with a healthier and smarter Ronaldo and Raul uptop, hopefully scoring a goal before half time.

If that picture develops, then we could expect a complete retreat to the back where I fear Ibra the most along with an unsure Del Piero and a slower-than-usual Nedved. The team would then look like a 5-4-2 formation or even a 4-1-4-1 formation, with graveson playing as the lone midfielder front of the defense picking up the slack before the main line of "D" gets hit.

The main thing is keeping Juve in a midst of confusion for the first half by rotating players left to right and so on and so forth.

Anyhow, Key players: Ronaldo, Raul, Gravesen, Zizzou, and of course Casillas.
Final result 0-1 to Madrid.

For this second leg match against Juventus, we have to defend our lead very well. In Turin awaits a very tense atmosphere and Del Piero and co will be looking forward to score against us. Our key players would be Zidane (we need him to dominate the midfield), Raul (he is hardworking, holds the ball and distributes it quite well), Gravesen (to break up the opponent) and Ronaldo (Yes, I think this time he will live up to his original standards after a dismal display a few days ago). Last but not least, we always have to thank Iker Casillas for guarding the goal and pulling off magnificent saves to get up the points. In conclusion, I am going for a 1 - 0 victory for Real Madrid.

At Turin, we must defend well...Midfield is the key, if Gravesen does the same job as he did in the home match, then we shud be safe...Salgado is out & that will be a problem...But i still think we can do it...a 0-2 win for madrid..

go there and attack, thats what we do best, score 1 goal and Juve will have to score 3, which i dont think they can. I really think we can make it, i can see a 1-1 draw.

I think you'll lose 1-0 at Turin.

Then that should take it to ET correct? Then it can go to penalties. Then from there, who knows. But I want to see a penalty shoot out. Those are always fun to watch.

Penalty shootout with Buffon against Casillas is creepy. I think it's going to be a 2-1 score. Madrid is defnitely gonna get an away goal.

I think Helguera will be back in time for the second leg. We need him desperately. Against Juventus, we cannot afford to lose like what we did to Deportivo very recently.

yeah helguera is back he aint injured he was suspended from the depor game ...

Who knows? Maybe he will score another goal at Turin when we meet Juventus in a couple of days.

Great answers!

#3
What happened to us in the Depor game? Is it the job of players to take better care of themselves or is it up to the coaches to train and adquire better replacements? You tell me, who is to blame!

I think it's a combination of everything. You cant expect a team missing several starters to really do that well. Although we lost 2-0, I didnt feel like Depor dominated us, actually we had 65% possession but failed to get in the penalty box. They were all defense.

why dont you get rid of raul instead

Please refrain from posting OFF Topic comments.
Thx.
Lets get back on topic.

#4
We have all heard the offer that I saw today for Ronaldo..what would you do if this was your team? Who would you replace him with, or would you simply stick with Owen?

I would replace him for Adriano and thoose 40 millions

Adriano for sure. Torres is good too but I doubt he will leave Atletico to their city rivals at this time.

I reckon Adriano would be a good buy but given Owen a run in the side might be a good idea as well. You could always give Owen some games and if he doesn't perform buy someone else

#5

Soul Searching is important in football Ronaldo is struggling, I think he is mentally not right at the moment what do you think would be the best thing to do about this, Personally I think even if this sounds cheesy the players should rally round him and make him feel happy and loved and part of the team because we really need him against Juve next week anyone agree with me?
The other aside would be why does he deserve speacial attention players have a rough time all the time and they have to get on with it.

I dont think Owen would be the replacement, but i do think it is time for Ronaldo to go so we can get some money off of him before hes too old. I saw try and work out a deal for Adriano to come to madrid in exchange...but that would never work. so, i propose thta we sell Ronaldo buy back morientes, trade Owen for reyes and we call it a SPANISH day!

we play Raul and Morientes up top and then Reyes as sub.. with Portillo right behind!

Ronaldo is also known for his volatile personality Mark, and furthermore, no coach has ever been able to tame the ingenious Brazilian to-date. I suppose if a team woud want to be directed by a forward then by all means Ronaldo is the choice, but at the same time someone that is going to leave us to the mercy of his feelings has no place in a squad like ours.

Nevertheless, I agree in giving him more time to find himself, but let him do it in the bench. Maybe that would be the spark he needs to work his arse off in the field, to know that he isnt a constant in the pitch, but more of a variable depending on his performance, just like everyone else....except Raul of course, but thats another story.

-Carlos.

Too much is expected from him since WC2002. He is already a legend, and he needs to finish his career off in style. It's about time he finds his form.

I wud stick with Ronnie...Too big a player to be written off like this and we really need him...



Happens with every player...Happened with Raul & Beckham too...Ronaldo will come back...Nobody thought he wud come back after the knee injury, but he did & the rest is history...Give him time, hes Ronaldo after all!!

And I dun think, anyone deserves specia attention...You cannot expect other players to treat him like that...But ofcourse, if that cud be done, it wud help him...

Btw, wasnt Raul given 'special attention' while he was doing terribly bad...

#5 Joaquin keeps hinting at a Real move...how does this make you feel?

Bad

Joaquin is a great player and would be a great replacement for Figo........naturally i wouldn't want that he move to Real.

Why not? He is young and very talented. I know Figo is still playing well but we have to replace him sooner or later.

LOL, thanks for your input, but this one was geared more towards the Real fan, although by all means post your responses no matter your alligeance.
Thx for your answer though, it makes me feel good tha some fear is drawn from comments from a great of Spanish footie.

He's a barcelona fan RMD.

It makes me feel very very bad. It would be a greeeaaat transfer for any team, so also for Real. I don't know how long his contract is still running? But he'll probably cost a lot, no? But still, I think Real has to be stupid not to go for him when he has stated he'd love a move to Madrid. He's one of the biggest talents in Europe and I think that between this and 2 years he'll already be one of the top players in Europe, so go for it Real.

It'll be a matter of Figo calling it quits and Joaquin picking up where he left off in my opinion, this makes me feel great TBH, and i hope he does come, since Gerrard is a faded memory at the moment.
By the way Gerrard is for sale now.

I think that Gerrard would be a good signing because of his direct approach against opponets and also his defensive capabilities. He could be a good beckham replacement because if Joaquin does come, then Beckham might lose the right side which may result in him moving back to the center, some Gerrard is more suited for...

By the way, Great Thread Ultra Sur!

haha. it would be great if they exchange gerrard for figo to move to liverpool. since figo really wants to go to the EPL. And besides, real had made a verbal agreeement with liverpool that if gerrard was ever on sale, real would get the priority

I would be a happy man if Joaquin signs for Real, why ? He is quality, young, passionate about joining the club & a Spaniard.

Just look at how Joaquin dribbled past 4 Real Madrid players and shot the ball into Casilla's hand. Magic. Well, I am very happy that he wants to joing Real Madrid.

I Would love to see him play for real ... hes the first player perez should sign in july ...

#6
After seeing a more inspired Real Madrid in the Betis game yesterday, what did you think of Luxa's approach to the starting 11, and what were your thoughts in seeing Ronaldo get booed by the crowd?

In seeing ronaldo get booed sucked, He does not deserve that ... but acctually its not a big problem if he scores one or two goals(if not more) at mestalla on saturday, then all thoose booing well be forgotten ...

It could be a good idea to rest Ronie at the Mestalla.

What if he gets injured and misses the Juve match... Anyway i think that Owen should be used instead for precautions.

How long should Lux wait for him? I think he sould be benched for a while, it might increase his awareness, and force him to regain his old physical form(WC2002).. Although he dissapointed me this season, it would be a big mistake to sell him in summer.

I think it is a shame that he was booed, he has played badly this season, compared to what we all know he is capable off, and booing will go nowhere to helping him find his form. Bearing this in mind I still think he should be benched for a few games. Sometimes this is all that is needed to give a player the hunger and discipline that is obviously missing from his game at the moment.

I think selling him this summer would be a little prevous, as I think there is alot left in him, but he needs to regain some descipline, or else I can see his career really taking a downward turn. If I was Owen I would get ready to get a few starts in the near future, as I can see Luxe not taking kindly to Ronnie's recent naughties......

Those damn supporters should really back him up to get his confidence back rather then boo him...i don't know what is wrong with those Real fans who choose every oppurtunity to play Ronaldo down and ignore his greatness..

Ronaldo not scoring goals was not the only reason why he was getting booed, the supporters were furious with him for being late for training and also criticizing the club for the way they treated him. Iker Casillas said If a player goes to the pitch he should be ready to face the applaud and the booes from the fans and i have to agree with him. If you play well you will be applauded and if you play bad you wil get booed no matte how big a star you are.