kid_a
Jul 5 2004, 11:04 PM
This is the baseball thread.
Through the course of my many months in SP I have noticed that nobody likes baseball. Except for maybe bob and I and our long conversations about who's better the Dodgers or the Padres (the Padres of course) nobody else seems to care about it.
Regardless, this is the baseball thread. Anything thats going on in the game goes here.
So whats happening today?
well the All Star game selection was yesterday and it was a bunch of horseshit. In the National League there are four Marlins going. Four!, only because their fuckin manager (old man mckeon) is gonna be the nl manager. There are a bunch of Astros just because there playing in Houston. What really pisses me off is that there is only ONE Padres player going, my personal favorite Mark Loretta. What sucks about this is that he is the best second baseman in the league but he got less votes then a muddafucker who has played in 10 games! There is only one Dodger player going also, this is all bullshit because the Padres, Dodgers and Giants are basically tied for first place. But what are you gonna do.
In the American League there are SEVEN Yankees going. Need I say more? and there are four Indians, and the Indians suck!
My condolences to Dave (bob) Eric Gagne has lost his consecutive save streak, it ended at like 85. Canada is weeping. hahaha. Im kidding, I'm a big fan of Gagne.
Dodgers still won, and they, come September, will defend the title of "being better than the Padres", which they are.
And ESPN always screws up baseball stuff. Except for having Joe Buck and the whiny old man on Sunday Night Baseball.
StickyNote
Jul 7 2004, 02:37 PM
fpc and bob, I am into baseball a little bit as well. Sorry fpc, but I say that the Dodgers are better than the Padres.
Joshinho
Jul 7 2004, 02:47 PM
The bargain basement twins have managed yet another strong season. I don't follow them much. I usually only pay attention in September to the end and usually only if the Twins are doing well. That's about the only time Baseball is predictably exciting to me and then it depends on whether or not I have something more important to do, like rent a movie
Naw, it can be fun, but still only come penant race final stretch & playoffs.
Go twinkies.
PSV#3
Jul 7 2004, 03:23 PM
I follow the Blue Jays somewhat. It was great when they won those back to back World Series. Baseball is kinda boring to watch, a game of anticipation. I hate the Yankees and BoSox and of course have a soft spot for the Cubbies. It was crazy when that Cubs fan caught that ball in the NL finals, they are truly cursed!!!!! I only actually watch the playoffs and some Blue Jay games.
kid_a
Jul 7 2004, 03:34 PM
Adolf you should stick to the two things you know:
1-Captaincy of the Lubes and
2-Invading Poland
Because you know nothing about baseball bud, last I saw we were in first place. Our pitching is much more solid as is our hitting. We've beaten the Astros two straight, beat the Diamondbacks in five out of seven games (including two against Randy Johnson) while the Dodgers cant even hold onto a lead in the ninth against that sucky team. Come pennant time you only have to remember two words: David Wells.
PSV#3
Jul 7 2004, 03:37 PM
The Padres are the hottest team in baseball, with the exception of the Devil Rays (and no I did not mean that in a homosexual :lol:manner). The only reason that I like the Dodgers better is because they got Gagne.....say, didn't San Diego make it to the World Series a couple years back?
Joshinho
Jul 7 2004, 03:41 PM
QUOTE(fpc @ Jul 7 2004, 03:34 PM)
Adolf you should stick to the two things you know:
1-Captaincy of the Lubes and
2-Invading Poland
Because you know nothing about baseball bud, last I saw we were in first place. Our pitching is much more solid as is our hitting. We've beaten the Astros two straight, beat the Diamondbacks in five out of seven games (including two against Randy Johnson) while the Dodgers cant even hold onto a lead in the ninth against that sucky team. Come pennant time you only have to remember two words: David Wells.
That's the problem I see with the Twins. Should we win the Pennant, I think we'll struggle in the playoffs because our pitching staff isn't deep enough.
StickyNote
Jul 7 2004, 03:48 PM
QUOTE(fpc @ Jul 7 2004, 03:34 PM)
Adolf you should stick to the two things you know:
1-Captaincy of the Lubes and
2-Invading Poland
Because you know nothing about baseball bud, last I saw we were in first place. Our pitching is much more solid as is our hitting. We've beaten the Astros two straight, beat the Diamondbacks in five out of seven games (including two against Randy Johnson) while the Dodgers cant even hold onto a lead in the ninth against that sucky team. Come pennant time you only have to remember two words: David Wells.
Hey! fpc, Never, I repeat NEVER question the ideals of the Captain. You are right about me not knowing too much about baseball, though BUT that dosen't matter, you never question the Captain.
lol. jk. fpc, I won't comment in the baseball thread any longer. I know a little about the Phillies though and they may have a chance in the playoffs.
leggo my eggo sends.
kid_a
Jul 7 2004, 03:58 PM
Alright adolf, I'll let you keep posting on the baseball thread, just because you're a Phillies fan and I hate the Phillies. Eric Gagne? dont give me that! the D-Backs just proved hes not invisible and we dont really need Eric Gagne, we got Trevor Hoffman who is actually better than Gagne. If Hoffman doesnt get you then Rod Beck will, and if Beck doesnt beat you then we got the Japanese guy, Akinori Otsuka. This is just an estimate but I think we've won about twelve of the last fifteen games. And PSV 3, last game I went to was a Padres-Blue Jays, we lost, but I cant name any of the Blue Jays that played.
StickyNote
Jul 7 2004, 04:13 PM
By the way fpc, your thread is very beautiful. Let's not let it get Jerry Springerized.
As to the Phillies. I completely agree that they suck. The team is like a Roller Coaster, alot of ups and downs. LME
Monissuer Gagne owns the record for most consecutive saves though.
Hoffman is old.
kid_a
Jul 8 2004, 04:51 PM
Hoffman is old?
Boy where do you get off? he cant be that old, and hes still effective, Eckersley was pitching into his fifties! Gagne may hold a worthless record, but who has more saves? whos actually been to a World Series? ha!
Teamwise, who's won more World Series?
kid_a
Jul 8 2004, 05:45 PM
The Dodgers.
Teamwise, when was the last time the Dodgers won the division? When was the last time the Dodgers went to the World Series?
Who has the bigger payroll?
Carlos™
Jul 8 2004, 05:45 PM
baseball sucks anywayz
QUOTE(fpc @ Jul 8 2004, 03:45 PM)
The Dodgers.
Teamwise, when was the last time the Dodgers won the division? When was the last time the Dodgers went to the World Series?
Who has the bigger payroll?
Damnit.
Well I made artwork:
kid_a
Jul 8 2004, 11:25 PM
Very mature Dave, very mature.
I too have made some artwork

and Ultra, baseball doesnt suck. People who write "anywayz" are the ones who suck.
Joshinho
Jul 9 2004, 08:42 AM
QUOTE(fpc @ Jul 8 2004, 11:25 PM)
Very mature Dave, very mature.
I too have made some artwork

and Ultra, baseball doesnt suck. People who write "anywayz" are the ones who suck.
I'm confused, does that mean that Dodgers don't suck?
Rossoneri
Jul 9 2004, 08:56 AM
St. Louis Cardinals are having a hell of a year...I think its 20 above the .500 mark, 1st in the National League...2nd best overall!
This is actually the first time...we've had all pitchers in form.
Even though I live in St. Louis...I've never been much of a Cardinals fan.
kid_a
Jul 14 2004, 12:41 PM
So the All Star game was held yesterday, in the middle of Texas and guess what? this one counted. Its all a bunch of bullshit, the league that wins the All Star game gets homefield advantage in the World Series. Who the fudge came up with this nonsense?
To recap, Roger "Texas" Clemens started the game, why? because hes from Texas, hes playing for Houston and the game was played in Houston. He didnt deserve it, there were at least two other pitchers who should have started the game (Schmidt and Johnson) but this was "his night". So what the #$@% happened? he pitched one inning, got five hits and scored on six times. And we're not talking stupid sacrifice bunt runs, we're talking homeruns, triples, doubles. Its a total sham. The Astros arent going anywhere, the team thats gonna get to the World Series is gonna be either my beloved Padres, the Dodgers or the Cardinals. Between the Padres and Dodgers they had three guys playing in the game. Three. So if one of these teams gets to the fall classic their not gonna have homefield advantage because of some stupid Astros and Marlins who were fuckin everywhere. I counted four Astros (and theyre like 11 games behind first place St Louis) and four Marlins.
The National League guys couldnt do anything offensively, but with an immediate six run deficit it was kinda hard to do anything. A lot of pop-ups, they got under more balls than a midget hooker. At least Mark Loretta (aka only Padre, aka should have started, aka MVP) got a hit.
So once again Major League Baseball continues their sucking up of big market teams and Texas teams. With eight yankees playing and the Rangers' Alfonso Soriano getting the MVP (why?), and their love towards Clemens. Its all a fuckin suck off fest, i felt like I was watching a porn movie.
bob
Jul 14 2004, 05:57 PM
The music sucked. Fantasia is a Disney movie.
And people are supposed to sing "TAKE ME OUT TO THE BALLGAME" in the middle of the 7th inning.
StickyNote
Jul 30 2004, 10:50 AM
Does anyone know if any professional athlete in MLB has a Mohawk?
PSV#3
Jul 30 2004, 10:53 AM
QUOTE(AdolfTrashtalk @ Jul 30 2004, 10:50 AM)
Does anyone know if any professional athlete in MLB has a Mohawk?
well it's kinda hard to tell since they are either wearing a cap or a helmet
StickyNote
Jul 30 2004, 10:56 AM

goddamnit, I never thought about that.
Joshinho
Jul 30 2004, 10:57 AM
QUOTE(fpc @ Jul 14 2004, 12:41 PM)
So the All Star game was held yesterday, in the middle of Texas and guess what? this one counted. Its all a bunch of bullshit, the league that wins the All Star game gets homefield advantage in the World Series. Who the fudge came up with this nonsense?
I don't care too much about baseball. Not until the end of august anyway. Even then, it depends on what else I have going on... But FPC, I agree, the home field advantage deal is utter crap.
BTW, the Twinkies aren't doing too shabby. I think we're a couple games up on the White Sox. Our pitching is looking good.
Christoval
Jul 30 2004, 10:59 AM
sorry fellas.. Baseball does suck. Without using bad spelling like Ultrasur did, I have to agree with him.
I'll make you a deal. You can take our two shitty baseball teams, the jays and expos.. and we will take all 24 hockey teams out of a country that admittedly doesnt want them. Gary bettman is a fuckstain, and is only looking to line his own pockets. Bud selig can loose 900 million a season in his own country. don't bring your poverty stricken teams who pay guys 19 million to scratch their nuts up here.
revarsenal
Jul 30 2004, 11:01 AM
the padres and dodgers will be the most interesting in the west. but don't count out the giants.
i'm a cubs fan, so i've been watching the west pretty closely with the wild card race in mind.
i'm gonna give the padres the edge possibly, new stadium fever and all, and because the dodgers seem to fade down the stretch. but alot will depend on who these teams deal for.
since the ass-face cardinals decided to have shitty pitchers pitch unbelievable, i hope the cubs can get the wild card, cause otherwise there are going to be a lot of pissed of cubs fans who had such high expectations. but even if we finish above .500 it will be the first time in i think 60 years that the cubs have had back to back winning seasons. cubs fans demand victory now, and i think thats a little unfair.
the nlcs to me is between the cubs and the cardinals for 3 reasons:
1) the cubs have more on-paper talent than either the giants/padres/dodgers or anyone from the east
2) the west will spend the rest of the season beating each other up, making it easier for the cubs to sneak in
3) they will meet in the nlcs because if they cubs can pitch like they should, no one can touch em, and the cardinals are just too damn good at hitting and defense.
but eventually, scoring and pitchers playing beyond their ability will catch up with the cards, and the cubs could go to the world series. if the cubs make the postseason, excellent chance. but they have to get their first. and get a shortstop, and a closer.
Joshinho
Jul 30 2004, 11:03 AM
QUOTE(Shearer @ Jul 30 2004, 10:59 AM)
sorry fellas.. Baseball does suck. Without using bad spelling like Ultrasur did, I have to agree with him.
I'll make you a deal. You can take our two shitty baseball teams, the jays and expos.. and we will take all 24 hockey teams out of a country that admittedly doesnt want them. Gary bettman is a fuckstain, and is only looking to line his own pockets. Bud selig can loose 900 million a season in his own country. don't bring your poverty stricken teams who pay guys 19 million to scratch their nuts up here.
Uh oh. FPC is gonna go ballistic.
I'm in between. You'd have to pay me to watch it live unless it is the playoffs. Seeing it live is something I do with my dad because he likes it. If he wasn't a fan, I doubt I'd see many games live.
Shearer, look out, behind you, it's FPC and he has a bat and a weird look in his eyes.
StickyNote
Jul 30 2004, 11:04 AM
QUOTE(Shearer @ Jul 30 2004, 10:59 AM)
sorry fellas.. Baseball does suck. Without using bad spelling like Ultrasur did, I have to agree with him.
I'll make you a deal. You can take our two shitty baseball teams, the jays and expos.. and we will take all 24 hockey teams out of a country that admittedly doesnt want them. Gary bettman is a fuckstain, and is only looking to line his own pockets. Bud selig can loose 900 million a season in his own country. don't bring your poverty stricken teams who pay guys 19 million to scratch their nuts up here.
Great post Shearer

anywayz, Dud Feeling dosen't know that a tie in baseball is unheard of

. LME
revarsenal
Jul 30 2004, 11:07 AM
baseball is my favorite sport behind soccer, so i would love to talk about it here as well.
i also follow the chicago bears, and ncaa sports alot.
for awhile i wanted to go to law school and become a sports agent, but in the nfl there are over 600 agents and half of them have a single client.
not sure what this has to do with anything, but i know my shit.
Christoval
Jul 30 2004, 11:45 AM
there ya go folks.. if you hitit big, we have a agent on site. lol
kid_a
Jul 30 2004, 12:32 PM
Show me the money...show me the money!
I knew Shearer was gonna do something like that, ever since I joked that we couldnt make a hockeypulse site because hockey had no pulse and then he said it was baseball that had no pulse. But I like his suggestion, we're gonna put the Expos in Washington and we can take the Jays and put em in, Bakersfield and they'd still be a bigger draw. We really gotta take those poor teams out of those cavernous monsters in which they play.
Today is the beginning of a three game series between the Dodgers and Padres. We just got out of beating the Giants three out of four and the Dodgers did the same to the Rockies. So scratch the Giants out, theyre gone, its gonna be both the Padres and Dodgers in the postseason, and I can just feel that by monday we'll be all tied up. Never pay attention to whatever the national media tells you, because they will always say that the Yankees and Cardinals are gonna meet in october, and then the angels and marlins come around.
Oh, and I heard that the Dodgers are gonna get Steve Finley in a three way deal, theyre gonna get Finley, Penny and some other guy, the Marlins will get Encarnacion, Mota and Lo Duca and the D=backs will get prospects. Sounds like a very bad trade for the Dodgers.
Joshinho
Jul 30 2004, 12:35 PM
QUOTE(revarsenal @ Jul 30 2004, 11:07 AM)
baseball is my favorite sport behind soccer, so i would love to talk about it here as well.
i also follow the chicago bears, and ncaa sports alot.
for awhile i wanted to go to law school and become a sports agent, but in the nfl there are over 600 agents and half of them have a single client.
not sure what this has to do with anything, but i know my shit.
You Cubbie or Sox?
The twinks are leading the sox. he he he.
bob
Jul 31 2004, 12:09 PM
dodger trade sucked.
but we killed the padres
kid_a
Jul 31 2004, 12:29 PM
I agree Dave, that trade was horrible. Is it possible that the Dodgers just did it so that they can keep Finley away from the Padres? I dont know, might be.
And yes, this year has been weird, youre killing us. But at least we own the Giants, and theres still two games left.
kid_a
Jul 31 2004, 04:41 PM
Alright fellas, the trade deadline has come and gone and here are the major deals:
Nomar Garciaparra goes to the Chicago Cubs in a four team trade that involves the Cubs, Sox, Twins and Expos.
The Yankees trade Jose Contreras (and his family) to the White Sox for Esteban Loaiza, which only begs the question: what are the White Sox doing? idiots.
The Dodgers made a bunch of trades, including sending Lo Duca, Mota and Encarnacion to the Marlins for Penny and some other guy (dumb) they got Charles Johnson from Colorado and Steve Finley from the D-Backs. They also sent Dave Roberts to some other team that I cant remember.
The Mets got Kris Benson from the Pirates for some guy and some Zambrano character from the Devil Rays for a couple of bats and a bag of baseballs.
The Padres wanted Steve Finley, but he can go to hell (or LA, same thing) but we did get Brad Fullmer from the Rangers and traded Ismael Valdez to the Marlins for some guy named Chick. But the best aquisition we made was getting Rich Aurilia from the Mariners.
So who were the winners and losers here?
Winners-The Yankees finally getting rid of Contreras and getting last years cy young runner up, and two time all star Loaiza (hes from TJ too). The Marlins getting Lo Duca, Mota and Encarnacion.
Losers-The Dodgers, sure they got Penny and Finley but getting rid of LoDuca was just stupid, as is getting rid of Mota, Encarnacion and Roberts. Nomar Garciaparra is another loser, going from one cursed team to another.
i damn near cried, the dodgers look bad.
revarsenal
Aug 2 2004, 03:38 PM
cubbie blue through and through. thats my shout out to old style.
i'd hardly say that nomar is a loser of the trade season. the curses are excuses and most people know that by now.
the dodgers deal will take awhile to pan out, but for a team who was 20-6 in july, why trade away the heart and soul of lo duca? the dodgers say they were preparing for winning a post season series, and not just getting there. well now they have to worry about getting there in my opinion, this is a very questionable move.
the yankees? not such a big winner. contreras has the stuff to be a number 1, loiza doesn't. he's lost a ton of velocity off his pitch, and could move on after the season.
marlins kicked ass, but will it pay off?
cubs did great cause they were the worst offensive team at ss, and got a huge shot in the arm without giving up much at all. beltran is a touted closer for the future, but for now, he's the only one close to giving up homers like maddux.
red sox, better at D, but will this pay off?
dodgers, why mess with sucess? this is the biggest risk of them all
mets? for next year obviously. matsui is playing better, but still not up to the hype.
i think with the cubs getting nomar, and keeping clement, and with wood getting his stuff back and if prior comes around, no reason he shouldn't, i think the cubs are better than the padres, giants, phillies, marlins for the wild card. its theirs to win in my opinion, and i think most pundits agree. they need some reliever help, but with ryan dempster getting healthy, and hawkins giving up less runs in his appearances, the cubs are playing much better baseball. they are 8-4 in the last 12, but road trips to colorado and s.f. along with 2 home series with the dodgers and padres in the next 2 weeks are going to be crucial. i think that the padres, dodgers and giants will beat each other up, with the cubs still having plenty with the pirates, expos, reds, milwauke, and houston (hehehehe)
kid_a
Aug 2 2004, 04:53 PM
The Cubs have definitely been a dissapointment this year. With that talent they should be looking down and laughing at the teams fighting for the Wild Card, but that simply isnt the case, they just cant seem to beat the Cardinals. Remember that the NL West is supposed to be the worse division in baseball, but the three California teams are really givin the midwest some hell.
The Phillies are one game above .500, the Marlins are no better so you can just about scratch them off the list of playoff contention. I cant believe neither of those teams cant beat the Braves. It looks like its gonna be a five team race for four places: Cardinals, Cubs, Dodgers, Braves and Padres. The Braves and Cardinals will win their divisions but the Padres, Dodgers and Cubs will be battling out for either the NL West (LA and SD) or the Wild Card (LA SD and CHI) its gonna be a good stretch and remember rev, we still have the D-Backs, Rockies, Giatns and Cubs to beat up on.
I'd definitely like to see four California teams in the playoffs.
Joshinho
Aug 2 2004, 04:54 PM
What about my twinkies?
kid_a
Aug 3 2004, 12:35 AM
Your Twinkies? I'm more of a Ding Dong man myself (nominated for worse joke this year).
Believe it or not I'm actually pulling for your Twins Josh. Theyve pulled away from the White Sox by like five games, and the ChiSox even appeared to have thrown in the towl when they traded Loaiza to the Yankees. You guys were not as active in the trade department, except for letting go of Mientkiewicz (men-kay-bitch). So you guys are gonna get to the playoffs, and maybe youll get deep into em.
This is how I see the playoffs:
AL:
East-Yankees
Central-Twins
West-A's
Wild Card-Angels
NL
East-Braves
Central-Cardinals
West-Padres
Wild Card-Dodgers
Joshinho
Aug 3 2004, 08:56 AM
Ding Dongs are better. No doubt.
Yep, the twinks' pitching game is firing on all cylinders right now. I think they're looking good for the pennant. But I don't follow it much. Just catch the scores sometimes....
revarsenal
Aug 3 2004, 09:48 AM
true the cubs have been a dissapointment based on preseason expectations, but i think you have to keep in mind what they've done with who they have done it with. kerry wood and mark prior have each missed at least 2 months of the season each. you tell me any other team in contention whose 1 and 2 aces are down like that. the cubs have been ravaged by injury, and to add to that, the lackluster pitching of the cardinals has been great, and the cardinals are on a different planet than everyone else right now.
the cubs seem to be getting healthy now, and things are coming together. they have about a 6 game edge over where they were last year, and dusty baker is known for his second half surges. his teams always play better baseball in the second half.
things to look for with the cubs:
-an actual ss now with nomar.
-grudzielaneck is back at 2b, but is walker better? dusty is platooning them, but grud just hasn't looked the same since hitting .311 last season
-derek lee is looking fantastic now and is a good hitter and fantastic defensive 1st baseman
-corey patterson could be our lead off man giving us speed on the basepaths ahead of nomar, sammy, moises, and aramis
-wood is throwing lightning but is relatively inconsistent, for his standards
-who knows what the hell is going on with prior's arm
-the bullpen is getting better with dempster coming off the DL and the surprising rusch going back to the pen.
are the cubs a lock to win the wild card? no. no team is. the cubs have been pure potential all season, and have yet to play with the 22 man roster envisioned from spring. i don't think that the dodgers will be able to hold up with all that has happened with their club. it could happened, but its hard to imagine. there is a lot of baseball left, but if i had to pick based on rosters and potential, thats all i have to go on in a wild card race i go with
AL
East- Yankees
Central- Twins (i hate the sox)
West- Toss up between A's and Angels, but one will win the division and the other will be the wild card. just can't see the bosox hitting stride. they have been playing barely .500 ball since may.
NL
East- Braves
Central- Cardinals
West- San Diego
Wild Card- Cubs/Giants, with the cubs staff and power hitting coming through in the end. the cubs are one of the best in hr and power, and with nomar, barret (catcher hitting near .300 all season) and todd walker (.280 with occasional power), and patterson hitting for contact (arguabley the fastest guy in the league according to peter gammons), i think that they cubs are gonna do it. giants and dodgers both traded away valuable parts of their late inning bullpens in a time where they are gonna need them the most.
but it will be down to the wire thats for sure, and another exciting run. as long as the cubs stay in it till the end, i can't ask for much more. they haven't had consecutive winning seasons in 60 years, sammy will probably be gone next year, magglio ordonez coming up from the gutters of the south side, and things will be great again in wrigleyville, if the roof wasn't falling.
Neily
Aug 3 2004, 10:07 AM
There is no team in the world I hate more than the Yankees.

Gosh I hate them. Always buying friggin Championships.
Anyways (after all that venting) BRAVES all the way!!!
Oh yeah I'm a NL fan.
Gotta pay respect to the Marlins
kid_a
Aug 3 2004, 10:12 AM
If I had to pick who I hate more: the Yanks or the Red Sox there is no doubt that the Red Sox are that hated team. Ever since Pedro Martinez started ragging on my compatriot Karim Garcia and ever since Johnny Damon said he didnt know who the Padres were (but we kicked your ass that second game didnt we cave man?). At least I respect the Yankees, because of their tradition. Come on, if you gots to choose between winners and losers you take the winners. And the Giants are out! its gonna be the Dodgers fighting that WC spot.
Yeah, the Giants suck this year.
revarsenal
Aug 3 2004, 11:05 AM
i hate the red sox more than the yankees because of these reasons:
-how was it good for baseball for a-rod to go to the second highest payroll in boston but bad for baseball for a-rod to go to the yankees. for a team with 40% higher than the third highest payroll, the red sox complaining about all that made them look like jack-asses to me.
-the boston media are horrible to this team. but its not just them, the fans are the biggest whiners and complainers in all of sports. they feel entitled to win every year, and when they don't they cry and cry and cry. the cubs have a good season and everyone loves em, everyone's excited. cub excitement/optimism in chicago right now is huge. boston? fans still complaining and crying. they don't appreciate what they have. you think one sox fan would swithc places with a brewers or expos fan? i don't think so.
-with so much money, its ridiculous for them not to compete. between manny and pedro, they have a higher payroll than the brewers.
-you can say that the yanks buy championships, but they've lost 2 of the last 3 world series they've been in, and have 1 world series in the last 4 years. hardly a dynasty anymore. yet they play hard, expectations are high, and they get far. bo sox? nope. they don't even have the success to back up the grubbling about missed expectations. and their money? oh my god. i've said enough about that.
they are just sore. they don't have the right attitude--fans, media, curse-bullshit, so i would never hope they win it. cause if they do, do you think sox fans will be happy with it. nope. it will be, they won it once, never again in our lifetime. just a tease. they'll underperform for the rest of eternity. this was our only time. whilest cubs fans would at least allow a grace period of 25 years. i know i would. i'm not spoiled by greatness--but i do consider myself spoiled these last 2 years. a bosox fan would never say that.
Christoval
Aug 3 2004, 03:45 PM
i hate the sox.. which is kinda weird given where i live being a hardcore sox fans place, even over the jays.
The reason is because they think they can win it every year. lmao, look at history, im not sure on exact dates, but the sox remind me of the cubs.
its sad when even teh blue jays have won a pennant or two so much more recently then them
kid_a
Aug 3 2004, 04:05 PM
Yeah Chris, both the Sox and Cubs are cursed. The Sox havent won a World Series since they traded away Babe Ruth to the Yankees, they have been to some Series but have lost all of them (most memorable that one where they were an out away and that groundball went through the first basemans legs) the Cubs are also cursed, but they havent played in a Series since like 1908. They came close in 1984 when they beat the Padres two times in Chicago, only to come to San Diego and lose three in a row. They also came close last year but they sorta imploded in the eight inning of the game that would have clinched it for them. But they found their scapegoat in a fan named Bartman.
As for the Red Sox, Sports Illustrated always says its the Sox's year, but when a franchise is a loser theres nothing you can do about it.