ffl19
Aug 30 2005, 09:14 PM
They showed all day on Brasilian TV, that Roma signed goalkeeper Doni.
I am sorry about my ignorance here, but can we sign players again??
If we can, and did sign him, than we did a stupid thing
Dirty Sanchez
Aug 30 2005, 10:22 PM
Yeah the transfer ban has been lifted. Well now with Pelizzoli gone Roma need cover for Curci, or even for Doni to take the #1 spot, though I don't know him.
ffl19
Aug 30 2005, 10:28 PM
Doni sucks!!!!!!
He did when he played for Corinthians, Santos and now at Juventude. Heīs not trustable at all...bad, bad sign for us
PazzaInter
Aug 31 2005, 12:26 AM
when is the transfer window closing?
BaldoCalcio
Aug 31 2005, 01:11 AM
QUOTE(PazzaInter @ Aug 31 2005, 12:26 AM)
when is the transfer window closing?
The last day is Wednesday August 31st.
Raw Power
Aug 31 2005, 01:25 AM
ROma must be desperate to sign Doni he is a classic brazilian he is terrible. He was transfered in Brasil cause no one wanted him. Roma should of went and got the keeper from Atl. Pr. Diogo. he had an awesome Libertadores Cup run he held that team. They could of got Marcos or Rogerio Ceni both Italo-brazilians who are way better than Doni.
chanpg1
Aug 31 2005, 11:18 PM
Out of curiousity...who handles these trades and negotiations for Roma? There's already the Cassano contract situation, and then they got this keeper... (I really would have loved seeing Rogerio Ceni play and possibly score some kicks for Roma

)
rado907
Aug 31 2005, 11:58 PM
They just have him to cover for Curci.
Hopefully Curci will do all right and not need any cover.
Anyway why did they forsake Lupatelli AND Pelizzoli? Yah Roma has a bizarre transfer policy.
ffl19
Sep 1 2005, 10:10 AM
QUOTE(rado907 @ Sep 1 2005, 01:58 AM)
They just have him to cover for Curci.
Hopefully Curci will do all right and not need any cover.
Anyway why did they forsake Lupatelli AND Pelizzoli? Yah Roma has a bizarre transfer policy.
Letīs all pray Curci wont need any cover this year...
Doni...blergh!!!!
Our transfer policy is weird, and I hope the whole Cassano situation gets solved soon
dreamlander
Sep 1 2005, 10:28 AM
Where did Pelizzoli go.
I seem to have missed alot of the transfers to other clubs outside of the 2 Milan clubs in Serie A this season?
Also Pelizzoli wasnt as good as Roma rated him in my opinion. Dont get me wrong...he was decent but i dont think he was good enough to be the keeper in a real title contender side. Personally i think he is about as good as Dida, and if ye have read my posts on him before, this isnt really as complimentary as it sounds
Deus1984
Sep 1 2005, 01:07 PM
QUOTE(dreamlander @ Sep 1 2005, 04:28 PM)
Where did Pelizzoli go.
Reggina
rado907
Sep 2 2005, 01:06 AM
BTW they also got some Greek goalkeeper from Milan I heard.
They were desperate for goalkeepers and since the transfer window was closing they went for whatever they could get.
dreamlander
Sep 2 2005, 09:00 AM
QUOTE(Deus1984 @ Sep 1 2005, 01:07 PM)
Twas funny, the night i posted this i saw the Serie A highlights and there was my answer right in front of me. Man he had some bad game against ye. Nonda looks the business for ye though and i think Mancini has been moved to a more central role too has he? coz he was fucking class by the highlights
Deus1984
Sep 2 2005, 01:19 PM
Mancini playing an excellent game against Regina and in Spalletti's tactic he's simply DEVASTING... Actually in his tactics, the wingers (taddei and mancini) have a great importance
rado907
Dec 11 2005, 07:32 PM
yah half the season in, having seen a few games and some highlights, this doni guy is terrible, BRING BACK CURCI.
that's all.
ACMILAN18
Dec 11 2005, 09:11 PM
Doni stinks!!! Curci is Italy's keeper of the future
ChRiS
M_I
Mar 28 2006, 05:03 AM
guess what doni is the no.1 keeper right now and he has done pretty well so far
although he looks rpone to errors so far he hasn't made too many of them. he did make 1 in the 3-2 win at inter that i remember
urbanlegend
Apr 8 2008, 12:55 PM
I guess it's about time Doni has his own thread, whether it's because he saves the day or has a typical blunder.
All Doni-related talk is encouraged here!
Maybe its time to change the thread title UL
I was hoping to suggest a nice title as well but nothing is coming up in my head
urbanlegend
Apr 8 2008, 01:09 PM
QUOTE(M_I @ Apr 8 2008, 02:05 PM)

Maybe its time to change the thread title UL
I was hoping to suggest a nice title as well but nothing is coming up in my head

Come up with something catchy and I'm sure we can accommodate you, brother!
How about this
The official Doni thread - Making amazing reflex saves and flapping at crosses at a stadium near you
urbanlegend
Apr 8 2008, 01:25 PM
QUOTE(M_I @ Apr 8 2008, 02:21 PM)

How about this
The official Doni thread - Making amazing reflex saves and flapping at crosses at a stadium near you
Any way to condense this?
M_I
Apr 10 2008, 02:45 AM
I can't make it short but i think there are subtitles larger than this one so why not just use this? Your call
urbanlegend
Apr 10 2008, 07:24 AM
QUOTE(M_I @ Apr 10 2008, 03:45 AM)

I can't make it short but i think there are subtitles larger than this one so why not just use this? Your call
Alright then.
EDIT: That didn't work. Half of it got cut off my friend.
Doni played so well last night. Hats off to him.
Let's just hope he keeps up those performances.
M_I
Apr 10 2008, 08:29 AM
QUOTE(urbanlegend @ Apr 10 2008, 06:24 PM)

Alright then.
EDIT: That didn't work. Half of it got cut off my friend.
Doni played so well last night. Hats off to him.
Let's just hope he keeps up those performances.
Oh well
Doesn't matter
I found out that Doni has 2 nicknames one is The Prince and the other is the Chicken (for flapping at crosses)
roma4ever
Apr 10 2008, 09:46 AM
theres only one prince in rome and thats giuseppe gianini, but the chicken will do fine lol, im really proud of doni from the second leg performance, he really played well, i just hope he can keep on doing performances like that on a consistent basis
p.s. what does everyone think of a curci viviano trade?
urbanlegend
Apr 10 2008, 11:00 AM
QUOTE(roma4ever @ Apr 10 2008, 10:46 AM)

theres only one prince in rome and thats giuseppe gianini, but the chicken will do fine lol, im really proud of doni from the second leg performance, he really played well, i just hope he can keep on doing performances like that on a consistent basis
p.s. what does everyone think of a curci viviano trade?
Of course there is only one prince!
And as for the trade, I've considered that before. I thought Viviano had a lot of potential, but the same problem exists... you have two guys at the age of 22, both wanting to see some playing time, both needing the playing time, and not going to get it unless at a club that can afford to give that opportunity.
So is a move like that not progressive? Well it really isn't because you're trading apple for apple.
dootz dootz
Apr 10 2008, 12:49 PM
Maybe just loan out Curci and get an old goalkeeper as your 2nd one, a grown veteran who doesn't mind sitting on the bench and only being called upon in the hour of need?
A bit like Inter; we have Julio in goal and Toldo/Orlandoni on the bench while Alfonso is being loaned out to Venezia to get some experience.
urbanlegend
Apr 10 2008, 12:55 PM
QUOTE(MrVandersexxx @ Apr 10 2008, 01:49 PM)

Maybe just loan out Curci and get an old goalkeeper as your 2nd one, a grown veteran who doesn't mind sitting on the bench and only being called upon in the hour of need?
A bit like Inter; we have Julio in goal and Toldo/Orlandoni on the bench while Alfonso is being loaned out to Venezia to get some experience.
A similar approach would benefit us in the long run. It is also something some of us have been saying for ages.
M_I
Apr 10 2008, 12:56 PM
Where is Pelizzoli btw? and does Antonioli still play?
I agree with MrVandersexxx about having an old but reliable keeper on the bench
urbanlegend
Apr 10 2008, 02:04 PM
QUOTE(M_I @ Apr 10 2008, 01:56 PM)

Where is Pelizzoli btw? and does Antonioli still play?
I agree with MrVandersexxx about having an old but reliable keeper on the bench
Ivan is playing at Lokomotiv Moscow.
Our keeping situation is as such:
- Doni
- Curci
- Julio Sergio
- Carlo Zotti (on loan at Sampdoria)
roma4ever
Apr 10 2008, 07:39 PM
maybe gianluca pagliuca would be good, although i think he hates to sit on the bench, another alternative could be ruggeiro ceni anyone know if he still still plays? hes that brazilian goal keeper who takes free kicks and penalty shots
M_I
Apr 11 2008, 09:50 AM
QUOTE(roma4ever @ Apr 11 2008, 06:39 AM)

maybe gianluca pagliuca would be good, although i think he hates to sit on the bench, another alternative could be ruggeiro ceni anyone know if he still still plays? hes that brazilian goal keeper who takes free kicks and penalty shots
Rogerio Ceni is not a good option IMO and pagliuca is too old. We could go for Storari IMO
dreamlander
Apr 11 2008, 12:31 PM
QUOTE(M_I @ Apr 11 2008, 03:50 PM)

Rogerio Ceni is not a good option IMO and pagliuca is too old. We could go for Storari IMO
Only issue with that is that he wasnt happy sitting on our bench to a Brazilian keeper, dont see it being any different for you guys!
urbanlegend
Apr 11 2008, 03:00 PM
QUOTE(dreamlander @ Apr 11 2008, 01:31 PM)

Only issue with that is that he wasnt happy sitting on our bench to a Brazilian keeper, dont see it being any different for you guys!
lol BINGO!
I think he's the type that rather play full-time for a bottom table club then sit on any team.
dreamlander
Apr 11 2008, 03:22 PM
QUOTE(urbanlegend @ Apr 11 2008, 09:00 PM)

lol BINGO!
I think he's the type that rather play full-time for a bottom table club then sit on any team.
Full respect to the guy too for it. I love Storari and the fact that he was better than both the clowns at our club must have really stuck in his gut. I have no qualms with him wanting out of Milan!
dootz dootz
Apr 11 2008, 03:36 PM
QUOTE(dreamlander @ Apr 11 2008, 10:22 PM)

Full respect to the guy too for it. I love Storari and the fact that he was better than both the clowns at our club must have really stuck in his gut. I have no qualms with him wanting out of Milan!
Not like that's exactly hard though. I mean, even Luca is a better goalie than Kalac and Dida...
urbanlegend
Apr 12 2008, 11:01 AM
lol Dida and Kalac are a laughing stock sometimes...
Storari isn't a godly keeper, but he's solid and has the desire to play. This is something that should never have been overlooked. Anyways, I digress.
We'd have to find a balance in someone who is solid, but willing to sit. It's such a waste to have Curci rot on the bench. He should be loaned out immediately next season so he comes back to us as a quality champion.
Lionel Messi
Apr 13 2008, 10:30 AM
actually i'm changing my mind about Doni, he is getting better and better every game and i have been really impressed with him this season! the saves he makes are world class and he's showing more self confidence than what he used to do!
i know he will make one of " doni's mistakes" ever once and a while but he is good in my books now! he was great last season as well but the 7 goals against Man U made most of us put him in the dark corner and forget everything he did!
from now on, i'm a Doni fan
M_I
Apr 14 2008, 12:43 AM
Slowly but surely Doni is winning over everyone.
urbanlegend
Apr 14 2008, 07:22 AM
haha
Is that a great achievement?
urbanlegend
Apr 15 2008, 09:55 AM
QUOTE
Channel4Roma pair bury the hatchet Roma's Christian Panucci and Alexander Doni have made peace after Sunday’s row at Udinese.
The pair argued furiously and had to be separated by teammates after Panucci ducked under a cross that Antonio Di Natale headed in at the back post to put Udinese ahead at the Stadio Friuli.
Panucci appeared to be claiming that Doni should have clearly informed him of Di Natale’s presence, while the Brazilian goalkeeper was furious at the veteran stopper’s decision to leave a dangerous cross.
No harm was done in the end as Roma ran out 3-1 winners and Coach Luciano Spalletti ordered the two men to shake hands at training today in front of their teammates and journalists.
The Giallorossi fans seemed to take Doni’s side in the incident and around 50 turned up to training yesterday to cheer the ‘keeper and parade a banner saying, “Doni – one of us.”
Fantastic news; Tifosi supporting our players! I would have to say as much as I love Panucci, on this one, he seemed to be the aggressor in the situation. Perhaps he was trying to motivate? Who knows his motives, but we pulled through and have resolved the situation so that is always good news.
Panucci up to his old tricks

He's still got it
M_I
Apr 15 2008, 11:10 AM
Panucci had a fight with Aquilani a few weeks ago as well. He's getting bitter at his old age maybe
urbanlegend
Apr 15 2008, 06:08 PM
lol!
urbanlegend
May 5 2008, 10:44 AM
Not much more I can say than WHAT AN AMAZING PERFORMANCE.
Doni has stepped up so many levels for us this season and yesterday was a perfect example. His reflexes were all on the mark and he saved the day so many times for us until the guys starting applying pressure and scoring. I haven't seen such a performance since a keeper named Buffon!
ASROMA_IRAN
May 6 2008, 07:54 AM
Great saves . . . ! it's a lesson for Casilas and Valdes !!!
sunday all of the world bowed down for doni hands . . .
Forza amantino and his Countryman Alexander Maragon
He was great but don't get carried away here. He is nowhere near Casillas.
and why would you compare him with valdes? Valdes is not that good
ASROMA_IRAN
May 7 2008, 01:44 AM
I wanted compare him with Spain Giants Goal keepers . Valdes was great last season but this season was very poor . . .
urbanlegend
Dec 28 2008, 07:10 PM
OK, so I was thinking about why I dislike Doni as much as I do, and why many traditional italian fans of Roma also dislike him and I wanted to be able to express exactly why so that others understand that it's not just a feeling or a sentiment of some more personal reason.
We all have seen Alexander play well many of times and save Roma's "ass" in games. I think it is a fair assessment to say that he is not a horrible keeper, or generally he is not bad. The quality that I see that Doni is missing is one of presence. Doni often makes incredible saves on unbelievable plays, and on 'simpler' attacks on goal he breaks apart, or what he is more famous for doing - being unaware of his positioning and getting 'burned' on relatively easy plays. For me the quality that summarizes why I dislike him as our #1 is the fact that he lacks presence: Doni is not a commanding goal keeper of the likes of Buffon, he is not charismatic in his role nor does he instill confidence and energy. You look at some keepers, such as Gigi and you see a keeper that yells, that commands his back line and fellow team-mates, and even on an off-game will make his presence felt (i.e.: when he will lose the ball from his grip easily, slip on his own merit when no one is pressuring him, etc.). He does not instill confidence in those around him when showing weakness often and stability and consistency is a very important quality for a goal keeper to possess. You can ask many players of many different 'walks of life' and they will all say they feel most comfortable when they know their keeper can handle their own and when their keeper brings forth energy, the rest of the team is at ease.
Ultimately, for me Alexander Doni is a solid goal keeper, but he lacks the essential characteristics that brings an good goal keeper to the next level - to greatness. Teams require more than just a keeper that can make saves; they require a goal keeper that can command their defensive back line, that can yell and keep players disciplined when defending and a keeper that brings a sense of calmness and uplifting energy when on the field. If Doni is able to learn this, to show the qualities of the likes of Buffon, Peruzzi, Cech, etc, only then can he be considered a great keeper.
Roma has traditionally lacked solid goal keeping and hasn't been able to hold on to talent between the posts and I personally believe this is one of the reasons why we've held some weakness on the field. With a keeper that brings the right qualities to the team, only then can we start moving up to the next level.
dreamlander
Dec 28 2008, 07:31 PM
Nice post, for me this was the part that stood out and that I agree with most of all:
QUOTE(urbanlegend @ Dec 29 2008, 12:10 AM)

He does not instill confidence in those around him when showing weakness often and stability and consistency is a very important quality for a goal keeper to possess. You can ask many players of many different 'walks of life' and they will all say they feel most comfortable when they know their keeper can handle their own and when their keeper brings forth energy, the rest of the team is at ease.
In a nut shell, what center backs want from a keeper is knowledge of their strengths and weaknesses. Donis strength is that he will have games where he will be Cassilas like. Those spectacular superman saves of off the wall Matrix like reflexes that no other keeper in the world will make will be a common occurrence for 90 minutes. There are other games where he will play a commanding game, more position and penalty box dominating in the Buffon style, and then there are games where he will play like Zjelko Kalac. A bumbling everything goes wrong kind of keeper, and then he will have games somewhere in between. The big problem are those in between games.
If a keeper has a few consistent strengths, ie crosses, the high ball, one on ones, shot stopping, you can build up a constant relationship with your defenders to counter this. For example, if your keeper is solid on one on ones, you can play a high line and the offside trap because you know your keeper is excellent at stopping the one on one chances. If a keeper is weak crosses, then you know you will expect your defenders to have to head away every ball that is pretty much outside the 6 yard box as the keeper isnt comfortable catching crosses, if you know your keeper is a poor kicker, you will more often put the ball out of touch for throw ins and corners as them dealing with back passes under pressure results in badness. The thing is, Doni is none and all of these things. He must a nightmare for Mexes and Juan to play ahead of as at all times they feel they must do all things as you can never tell when Doni is going to dominate on crosses and then come flapping. You can never tell is he going to be well positioned on long range efforts or do you have to bust that extra gut to help close down the attacker. It's a total mystery.
It brings to mind an Irish keeper by the name of Dean Kiely, he played for Charlton and Portmsouth mainly, who was a seasoned pro and a very capable Premiership goalkeeper. His shot stopping was as good as anyone else in the league. I thoroughly believe that and he was never made look a poor keeper nor did he ever make many mistakes. Many always wondered why this was and I was watching an interview with his then Charlton coach, Alan Curbishley. Curbishley went on about how Kiely was so respected as a keeper and yet, he had one terrible weakness for a keeper, he was awful on crosses. The interviewer asked him "How come we never see him drop one so?" and Curbishley stated that it was because he never comes for them, and his center backs know this, so Curbishley loaded his CBs with guys who were dominant in the air and instructed them to head away everything and assume Kiely would never come for the ball. It made for a great understanding a decent little defensive unit put together from, on paper, ordinary parts.
That is the total opposite of Doni.
     
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