I quite like that, it looks nice.

Thought it deserved a new post, first personal pics I've seen of the white out Konstrust 2s:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Puma-V-konstruct-II-...bayphotohosting

WOW! I love those boots man...they pictures just made them look incredible!

Are they Kangaroo leather or not. :|

Are these fake? The blue in the "running track" is wider on the Ebay ones!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-BLUE-PUMA-V3-06-...bayphotohosting

Soccer.com ones!

http://www.soccer.com/IWCatProductPage.pro...id=#imageClose5

Thanks, it's between those and the new Beckham Absolutes.

Go with the V-Konstrukts
They are amazing.. and you will never regret buying them!

I was thinking about getting new boots and I was swaying towards the Konstrukts..but I dont think I'd suit the black ones and I reckon the all white ones would get wrecked!

I think they are full grain leather like the Konstruct 1s

there's been a big hassle about that issue on this forum before. some say they are Kangaroo and some say they're not. believe what you will

I want to know the truth!

well go and find out the truth yourself then!

Konstruct 1s are soft leather but they are definately full grain.

Does it really matter what kind of leather it is? If its soft and durable then it shouldn't matter, thats primarily what you should be looking for and it has it, regardless of what kind of leather it is.

They're full grain leather!

The V-Knostruct are K-Leather end of story, I have had them in my hands at my store, the Puma rep has confirmed this. They are a K-Leather boot, conversation over. Juve, don't get all twisted up about it

I was pretty positive they were full grain but i don't really care whether they're wool cause i'm not buying em.

You'd be amazed at how little that does to pursuade us these days. Too many people have said that about Nike, Adidas, ect. products where there is a little misunderstanding and it turns out that "the representative" is a figment of their imagination...

lol, why can't we all just get along! the leather will be what it will be to each of our own. end of story

Ok then don't believe me that I spoke with the Puma rep about the boots a while back, see if I give a $hit. You can touch them once and feel that they are K-leather if that will satisfy you though.

LOLLL you can't tell what sort of leather it is by touching it, or did your rep touch it and tell you it was definitely k-leather, all i know is that pds has never wronged me before and if they say full-grain leather then I'm gonna believe them because they get they're information straight from puma not some rep who told you its k-leather whose trying to get you to buy their product, yes so is puma but the difference is puma could get sued if they give wrong information about they're products and i really can see how the rep would try to fool someone who thinks they know what type of leather they're touching just by touching it!!

I don't belive you..that was the whole point of my post...

Also on the puma website it says full grain .

They are definitely full grain, and sometrimes they split at the sole as well. Not saying all of them do, but it's something to be considered.

If you can't tell the difference in texture of leathers from the feel then you dont know much about boots. The disticntion in texture between Pumas cowhide leather and their k-leather is considerable. When you pick up the V-Kat and V-Kon model and feel the texture of the cowhide and calfskin then compare it to the Konstruct which is K-leather you would have to be a total nimrod to not be able to feel the difference.

I hate to bust your ver small bubble but kangroo is a grain leather as well and up until a few years ago most boots that were K-leather were advertisted as "full gain kangroo leather" so Puma calling them "full grain leather" isn't saying they are calfskin it's just not throwing in the animal hide used by Puma for whatever reason.

I have had the boots on my foot and in my hand and I can assure you they are made of the same grain K-leather Puma uses on the King Exec.

This is what I am talking about, you are getting your info from PDS which is taking a direct reprint from the Puma catalog and putting it online. They also say that Vapors add speed to your game so I am guessing that you believe that as well. I am getting my info from first hand knowledge, as well as confirmation from a rep that sells for Puma. The reason it doesn't say K-Leather in the catalog which PDS reprints verbatum online could have been a typo or error of omission.

I can assure you that I know more about boots than anyone on this fourm short of maybe the guy that designs for Hummel and maybe some of the higher ups from Nomis. On a side note I have had personal dialogue with Simon the owner of Nomis about working with his company, which is more than I can say for you I am sure. But then again you did run to this fourm when I made it clear you were not welcome in the one I run.

In case you can't research backdated posts, or its not adding up let me introduce myself by my other soccer fourm handle, JC18STAR. The mod of Big Soccer and editoral writer for BootNR. I am expecting not to be banned for this post like I was when I spoke out against the way the whole "adidas vs soccerpulse" thing (love that freedom of speech thing) was handled but then again some mods around here seem to be super sensitive to anything other than utter praise for average work. Also mods this isnt a sock puppet because you banned me, I had this handle over here in 2004, I only created the JC18STAR handle because I was being offered your jobs and I was going to take until I decided to mod again at BS.

"....What a man, what a man, what a....."

Mate, you are throwing a fit about a minute issue here, it's not really that important.

I have the boots and I am 90% sure that they are cow-hide leather, or full grain leather. But in a few days I will compare them to my Manias which are on their way (which are 100% k leather).

Also, offtopic, you are a mod at big soccer, congratulations. But I think, and others may agree that big soccer is a miniscule forum in comparison to soccer pulse. And just because your a mod, you havn't the foggiest clue more than any of us that the boots are k leather or not.

Representatives are not always correct and neither are PDS or any other sources, people make mistakes. But more people think that they are full grain, than people who think that they're k leather.

I never claimed modship at any location give me infiante knowledge but if you check my post history between here, BS, or BootNR you can see I much more informed than most of the people that post here or over there. As to the the size of BS to SP I am not having a tit for tat contest as to which is bigger or better, I am just stating who I am and where I come from for informations sake.

This is a bit pointless because arguing on the internet is like winning a gold at the special olympics, in the end your still retarded. I know I am correct, a few people here with zero experience with the boot or with boots in general think they are so its a moot point. As for you owning the boot well I can't force your hand but you should be able to feel the supple texture and know its not calfskin or cowhide.

(points and laughs)

Woh, sorry mate, I think you did claim modship when you said this:



And when you feel the leather, it is rough, not incredibly rough, but rough enough to not be k leather.

Here are some pics to back up my claim:
Clearly k leather, boot name was v1.06k so Puma officially say that they are k leather. Also, Pro Direct Soccer say that the boot is k leather.


The surface is obviously very bumpy in comparison, not as soft looking. Described by Puma and Pro Direct Soccer as full grain leather.

I stated I was a mod at BS and was offered the job here yes but I never claimed that I was more informed because of that alone. I am more informed because I have worked in various soccer shops while I have been in college, and up until I decided to start my own staffing compnay and go to law school I was going to work as a boot designer and developer. Thus I know my leathers pretty well. My interest in soccer footwear lead me to post in fourms like this, my knowledge and input then led me to be offerd positions of moderator and in the case of BootNR being offered the entire site to run.

What you highlighted had more to due with having posting privilages removed as JC18STAR because I said something the mods here got their panites all twisted up about. I figured that was maybe going to happen again because they can't deal with people who have differing views from them, even more so when it is coming from someone they dont like a whole lot. I am not sure why this is that hard of a concept to grasp, you seem like a some what bright person so putting together sentences that form paragraphs and then whole posts really shouldnt be that tough.

As for the leather feeling rough maybe the quality of your cut of leather isn't as great as most pairs of the boots, I have 4 pairs of Legends. On one of the pairs the left boot seems rougher than the leather on the right boot and rougher than all the rest of the Legends I own. It's still K-Leather just not as supple of a cut of the hide.

I have had this happen with some Adidas boots in the past as well, it can bea common probelm with K-Leather boots that are mass produced.

Hey thats terrific, everyone give him a round of applause and a hug and of you go JC. Seriously if you're gona stay here you might aswell try to make some friends and not sook about what happened to you because of your OWN mistakes, you gave me a warning over at BS for nothing and i just said to myself it is bs but i wasn't gonna stay there and talk to the same 5 people that post every once a week so if you don't like it here or are gonna throw tantrums just because you think you can feel the difference between leathers then you'll probably be more welcome at BS!

hey, does anyone have any idea as to when all of Umbro's new boots will b released in the US? i was just wondering bc they all look pretty good.

wow did anyone read Johnny5's posts (this isn't some writing competition you know), so can someone summarise all of it for me??

Anyway umm have anyone seen any players wear the new umbro boots?? besides the usual deco, terry, etc.

I want to see them in real life but it's hard to find Umbro boots in Australia

Different dyes and colors added to the leather can fist of all change the look and texture of the leather but I thought this whole debate was centered on the new V-Konstruct 2's so if we are doing picture comparisons we should use that boot.

On a side note of how leather can feel different, the new R10's are K-Leather but feel very similar to a rubbery synthetic when brand new just for example.

GIVE IT UP ALREADY!

You're more than welcome to stay Johnny5/JC...we'll just call you Jonny for now, nobody is forcing to you go anywhere but can we keep the BS dillemas to BS (juve). I have no idea who the fuck you are so saying "some mods are supersensitive" is a little out of place don't you think? I can see your intelligence exceeds most peoples posting power here so you sticking around could prove to be a great thing with your obvious knowledge of boots, leathers, ect.

But on another note can we stop bickering back and forth? 2 threads have been closed due to this same argument with some certain people losing their cool faster than others and causing an erruption of insults which consequently leaded to warnings, suspentions and bannings. But if you lot are up for that, be my guest . I'm not saying that the topic of conversation has to be stopped instantly, im just making sure that everyone gets the picture that personal insults due to this topic (type of leather) will not be tollerated. Posts such as Kippax Street's, Chippens and KenNY's are just going to push the fuse and cause a reaction, something that could get threads (yes even stickied ones) closed. So please, by all means carry on, but we all have to be understanding that the internet cannot replace face to face communication due to the big thing we're all sitting infront of..a screen. Many things are lost in translation as I have found out and one may take an innocent post as a personal attack which infuriates harsh words due to the protection of sitting behind a screen and not having to deal with one another.

i just thought the spelling error on intelligence was funny
true let stop all the bickering

I just passed out at the gym before so cut me some slack? But I know you were only giving me some friendly stick .

oh how was the gym?

It may have been good at the beginning but he did pass out so...

I've been to BootNR. The only difference between that entire forum and this little subforum, is that there are more neat little categories, and there is a guy from China who supplies you with pictures of "unreleased factory samples" and he makes a shitload of money from selling the low quality prototype supplies to you and those gullible enough to think they spotted a bargain. How does being a writer there automatically make you know more about boots than us, is totally beyond me.

All they (you?) do is take those pictures and watermark them.

I said maybe one page back, I think, that a Nottingham Forest player (Agogo) was wearing some new X-boots in the first half against Charlton! I didn't post any pics then so I'll do it now!

And sorry Ejtek! Can you ever forgive me?

Thay look quite nice Chippen, wasn't sure what they were at first but you can tell from his left boot.

Sorry Johnny and Ejtek, I was a bit out of line myself, I'm happy to settle that it's nice leather and it's not really important what animal it came from.

sorry if these have been posted but i havn't seen them before

http://www.prodirectsoccer.com/prodinfo.as...=2&BRAND=10

I think Puma may have changed the colour of the logo, I saw them before and they looked like Black/Pink, now they look Red again. Still can't say I like them.

If you read my articles I have written there in the edititorals section you can see my obvious interest in boot design and knowledge when it comes to craftsmanship and production standards. Also my scathing view on boot gimmicks in a few of those articles should establish I far from gullible.

I have never bought anything from Carlty who sells on that site and this one as well. I work in a shop where I get a large discount and have no need to buy from anyone else unless I find some asics or mizuno online that are not sold in the US. On a side no I have contacted both those compnaies about me setting up a distributor in the US for their boots and seeing where it goes.

Carlty got his start over here, on SP and he buys direct from the factory that produces the boots in China for the early sales of new products and he also owns a store as far as I know. I know he sells samples at times but as far as I know he also sells the final production model of the "new" boots he just has the ability to get them early through factroy contacts in Asia. If you look on the tounge or tags of almost every boot, there is a production date that states the month and year a boot is produced. Often with first batches its anywhere from 1 year to 3 months before their inital release so they can be shipped to distribution centers for the company to ship them out once retailers/teams/colleges place their orders with the company either through a product rep or on site school/team rep for larger accounts and for the promotions divsion of a company which supply shoes to lower level pros like MLS players that do not get SMU (Special Make Up) boots. I am pretty sure Carlty just cuts out the middle man and gets them before they go to the company's distribution houses.

I don't take any pics or watermark anything, I was personally asked by an adidas rep no to leak info about boot releases anymore when I gave info about the this quaters adidas line up about 5 months ago which is the current red preds and the up coming balckouts and so on. Adidas does moniter this site, and BigSoccer to see if pics have been leaked which allows them to take legal action and my info was walking the fine line and the rep said it would be best not to spill anymore early info. Someone nabbed that info from me on BS and posted it here mentioning me in the thread title as the source, you can find it here with a quick scroll down.

Bottom line I never said being a writer there gives me anymore knoweldge by default, it was so you can look at my posts/articles if you needed to and know that I have some general idea of what I am talking about. It goes with the whole citations, citing sources, quoting and so on that means everything in the world of information and higher education.

I wasn't calling oyu out as a person, I was just saying someone here got very upset with me because I spoke out here as JC when the whole adidas vs. soccerpulse thing was going on and pretty much said that you needed to push adidas and take them to task for trying to bully you guys. As a result my posting privliages were revoked as JC and that account was only created because I was being offered a mod job here because of my previous work at BS under that title. I think it was the mod here who changes his name from one body part to another week by week that took the most offense to my remarks. No offense meant to you, personally.

^this argument is getting boring. the konstructs and konstruct II are full grain leather end off. and Jonny we don't give a monkeys about who you have modded for and whatever so lets just get back to boots ok?

EDIT:
have a look at these

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PUMA-V1-06-ASTRO-TUR...tem220067598129

i saw those a couple weeks ago on the puma store site, idk what to think. unless they match ur kit idk why u would get them

I'd get them , nah highlighter yellow is too psychadelic for me