With a new look comes new features and a new approach to modding. At least in my part. So the Iron Curtain has fallen and I will no longer be the crazed commie I once was. So I'm gonna start a thread for the NFL for every week, I'll post the schedule and we pick winners. After that (and during and before) theres discussion.

I'll also pick four games each week and those are gonna be the games that count, you'll get a win-loss record for those four games and at the end of the season the winner will get an "sp baseball pool" like prize (that is to say nothing, only the satisfaction of knowing that you're the boss when it comes to predicting NFL games. Oh and theres no limit to participation, anybody can just come in and post their games. Just dont cheat, its all for good fun anyways.

Ok heres this weeks games, highlited games are the ones that count:

SUN, NOV 16
Carolina at Tampa Bay-Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville-Jaxonville
Cincinnati at Baltimore -Baltimore
Atlanta at Miami -Atlanta
Detroit at Minnesota -Detroit
San Diego at NY Jets -San Diego
Tennessee at Cleveland -Tennessee
Oakland at Kansas City -Kansas City
Seattle at Arizona -Arizona
Chicago at New Orleans (at Baton Rouge) -New Orleans
NY Giants at San Francisco -New York
Pittsburgh at Green Bay -Green Bay
Philadelphia at Washington -Philly

MON, NOV 7
Indianapolis at New England-New England

Oh ye of little faith. The vikings will crush the lions!


.... I hope.

You mean just like they crushed the Saints and the Packers. If I were the Vikings I would have forfeit both those games. Big question: is Mikey Tyce coming back next year.

Tice should have been gone a long time ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In my opinion, he was lucky to have a job last year. He was very lucky to have a job at the start of this year. The only reason he still has a job is because Red McCombs was too cheap to fire him and hire a real coach for a decent salary.

There are so so so many mistakes you could point to. But here is one that I find quite representative. Last year, we were in a close game with the Seahawks....I forget the score toward the end of the game but we were driving and if we would have scored a FG or touch down, we would have won.

Here is the situation...we had been running the ball VERY successfully all game. We are driving and at about the 30 with about 2 minutes or so to go. Perfect...keep running the ball to eat up the clock and score with little time left. Right? WRONG.

Here is the play selection, handoff/pitch to Randy Moss who is to throw the ball into the endzone. Part of the problem was that it was a busted play...Moss was under extreme pressure and the receivers were covered. He goes for it anyway and its intercepted. OK good defense...but why that HORRENDOUS play call? Even if we had scored, your now giving the other team plenty of time to come back!

Sigh. there are a buhjillion of examples like that.

Tice sucks. Simple as.

I miss Dennis Green badly.

thanks for the participation guys

Do we post our predictions in here now?

Are cincinatti as shite as they used to be? I have a knack of picking shit teams to support in american sports.

Actually Cincinnati are pretty good this year. They are definitely not the laughingstock of the league anymore. Marvin Lewis, their coach, has really turned things around over there and they have one of the best players in the NFL in Reciever Chad Johnson.

Carolina over Tampa Bay
Jacksonville over Houston
Cincinnati over Baltimore
Atlanta over Miami
Detroit over Minnesota
San Diego over NY Jets
Tennessee over Cleveland
Oakland over Kansas City
Seattle over Arizona
Chicago over New Orleans
NY Giants over San Francisco
Pittsburgh over Green Bay
Philadelphia over Washington

Indianapolis over New England

ok ok then here we go

Tampa bay over Carolina at raymond james
Jacksonville over Houston easily at home
Cincinnati over Baltimore away
Miami over Atlanta
Detroit over Minnesota

my bold big bet of the week

Cleveland over Tennessee
Kansas City over Oakland
Seattle over Arizona
Chicago over New Orleans
NY Giants over San Francisco

and of course

Washington over Philadelphia

MON,
Indianapolis over New England

hope you can understand it, and hope i did it right





sounds like he was trying to catch the defence of guard or something, but i think the thing that your forgeting is that it is an option play, thats why they call it an HB or WR pass option, if he sees someone open in the play, he throws, if not, he dosen't,

but i can see where your coming from, that prob was a bad call, maybe a play action fake would have been better, personally, i dont see anything good about tice, i think he is an average coach, but you know the vikings better then i do, so i have to respect your opinion and listen to your experecnce,

hope you understood that, and im sorry if i double posted

ah mad, how mad is that, instead of double posting, it automatically edits your previous post, and i thought that the updates where a bunch of crap

Thats why sin4life is my favourite member. If I were the Queen he'd be a knight by now. And thats a bold bold prediction C4life. Thats even more bold than "kid a's crazy prediction of the week" in the mexican soccer forum. The best stat to look at is "All the quarterbacks the Jets have used this year have a total of 3 touchdown passes. Ladainian Tomlinson has 3 touchdown passes"

well thanks kid a. well back to football, I was watching SC (sportscenter) on monday night, and they were making fun of the jets stats. How a running back has the same TD passes as all the jets QBs put together. They were saying other things about jets stats which i though it was pretty funny.

Indeed, he was trying to catch the defense off guard. However, it was a bad call for many reasons.

First & foremost....we were being successful at running and we needed to run more time off the clock. If we had scored, then we would have given tooo much time back.

Second, it is a risky play, especially when you NEED to score. It is one thing to make that play call when your 7 or 14 up and looking to really open up a lead...but when the pressure is on, are you going to trust your WR to make a decision about throwing the ball?

Third, it was completely busted. They had good pressure on Moss (the new "QB") and good coverage down field. Despite the option NOT to throw, Moss tried to be a hero (seem my second reason about not trusing a WR to throw the ball in a pressure situation).



Exactly. Play action fake or just a standard run play would have been exceedingly better.

Anyway, Wilf (new owner) seems serious about the vikings. I'd be shocked if he invites Tice back unless we win the superbowl!!!!!



I'd rather have him than Tice but, hell, I'd rather have Sven Goran Ericksson than Tice!

I miss Jerry Burns & Bud Grant.

Is the fight for T.O. really worth it?

In my opinion the Eagles could get someone who is decent and contributes to the team as well.

Dont get me wrong, he is a fantastic player, one of the best but he is lacking one contribution to the team which is leadership. You can't and shouldn't get away with what he is saying. Mcnabb is an incredible player and the Eagles have built this team around him. For how many passing attempts he takes he should be getting the amount of interceptions he is. The ratio of interceptions to touchdowns isnt bad.

I don't care if the Eagles would have a much worse record. Get T.O. out and work on getting some half decent coaching and fill in the gaps that are needed for a complete team because the Eagles already have threats and weapons and in time we should be back on top.

haha, i was just gonna post something about this. Ok so it already happened one time that this asshat goes off and badmouths his quarterback. That got settled, the team started alright and all was forgiven. Now he does it again, and this time he might as well be saying: its all McNabb's fault. It seems to me that the Eagles have the tough choice of deciding which player they want, because they cant have both. Donovan is playing hurt this year and hes still playing well, the defense is whats holding them up (except against the Broncos) so all they really need (besides a healthy Donovan) is a friggin running back.

I dont know, before it was easty to forgive all the stupidity that Terrell Owens oozes but now that the team is not winning and that he is both hurt and not producing then they should just get rid of him. And get rid of him soon.

Oh and I'm gonna merge this to the Week 9 topic just for consistency.

Carolina over Tampa Bay

Cincinnati over Baltimore

Kansas City over Oakland

Indianapolis over New England (tough to choose against the patriots given their domination over the colts in recent years. However, now the Patriots cant really stop the run and force Peyton to throw into Belichek's secondary. I expect Edge to have a big game...)

I hate Terrell Owen

He needs to leave the Eagles for good

His contribution to the team is the worst ive ever seen

I dont care how good he is

We could get a veteran and lose him

He is so good but its wasted talent when he talks

He just shouldnt talk. Not a word. Just be quiet all the time

And the Eagles are gonna lose to the Redskins


Colts or Pats?

I think Patriots just because they have a nack for beating the Colts

the bengals will make the world series of football, just because I support them

Carolina at Tampa Bay-Tampa
Houston at Jacksonville-Houston (go Astros!!!!!!)
Cincinnati at Baltimore -Cincinnati of course
Atlanta at Miami -Miami
Detroit at Minnesota -Minnesota
San Diego at NY Jets -San Diego
Tennessee at Cleveland -Cleveland
Oakland at Kansas City -Kansas City
Seattle at Arizona -Arizona
Chicago at New Orleans (at Baton Rouge) -New Orleans (are they playing water-football?)
NY Giants at San Francisco -Giants
Pittsburgh at Green Bay -Pittsburgh
Philadelphia at Washington -Philly
Indianapolis at New England-New England

It is easy to forgive him when he talks then comes out and gets a huge touchdown catch but this is getting outragious. Donovan is who they should keep. Brian Westbrook is a good back. He just is the type of player you need a good line with. Get him in some one on one situations and he will beat almost anyone. Thats why his receiving stats are so good every year. He gets you one on one then starts to slow the play down to almost a jog then sprints past you when you least expect it. He is a great back in the right situation. The Eagles blocking isnt it. Trade or lose TO and fix the blocking. Or fix the situation with TO and get a better back and lose Brian Westbrook. Who they should look into if they can next offseason is Jamal Lewis. They have a some threats at wideout without TO. They arent great but Pinkston isnt that bad. If he didnt get injured this TO thing might be more easy to fix. Greg Lewis is just not that good and Brian Mcmullen isnt either. Reggie isnt bad but isnt getting enough playing time. They should finish up this season, lose TO, look into getting Jamal Lewis, and draft some blocking and wide receiving and in time Mcnabb's leadership, the young talent at wide out, the tuff running backs, and the good Tight end and blockers upfront will come together for a good enough offense. If the corners at defenses grow and prosper, michael lewis gets better, dawkins does w/e the hell he wants, and we stay sturdy enough at linebackers and linemen up front we should be a very, very balanced team and be back on top in several years. Special Teams is nothing to worry about unless Akers gets injured or retires or something. The Eagles should be a good team. There coaching staff isnt great either. Ried is alright but we have a good enough line to stop the run and the Eagles should be stopping the run. There is something wrong here and it isnt the lack of talent



"World Series of Football" lol go back to cricket no jk
You have some very good picks and I agree with most of them

Carolina and Tampa Bay- Carolina
Cincy and Ravens- Cincy
Alanta and Miami- Atlanta
Detroit and Minnesota- Detroit
San Diego and NY Jets- San Diego
Tennesee and Cleveland- Cleveland
Oakland and Kansas City- Kansas City
Seattle and Arizona- Seattle
Chicago at New Orleans- Chicago
Ny Giants and San Fran- Giants
Pitt and Green Bay- Pitt
Philly and Washington- They both suck so much and both lose
Colts and new England- New England cuz they always beat them

T.O suspended indefinitely

i hate cricket

why was this T.O character suspended? I can't be bothered reading

The short answer is "for being an ass" the long answer involves a series of complicacions going back to his days in San Francisco, his refusal to play for Baltimore and most of all his constant attacks on, not just his quarterback anymore but the team in general. He doesnt want to play in Philly anymore and this is the first move in getting rid of him, its what the Bucs did a couple years ago with Keyshawn. These guys just have huge egos. Oh and he wants to get paid so he can feed his family. His family eats nothing but Gold covered diamonds apparently.

NO MAN Im just playing
Ask Kid A Ive learned my lesson

Well there goes the Eagles season and here is a toast from superbowl to last place in division. Why do i like Philly teams, it doesnt cash in. I like the Flyers and thats a little hope but sixers have no hope(but Iverson is really good), Eagles suck, The have turned out some great horse jockeys (woopdidoo), and phillies cant get to the playoffs if their life depended on it. Nova is good though. But anyways back to football. How pissed do you guys think TO is know?



he can feed his family those softball size earrings. That might help save his family from the starvation.

yeah I know. Its all good

question: does T.O. refer to himself in 3rd person? He sounds like the kind of guy that does

I'm not sure if I have ever heard him refer to himself in the third person. He is certainly the kind of person to do so.

And how pissed off is he now...well if he's not gonna get paid while he is suspended then he will be furious. If they're sparing him a couple million then he's not one to mind. This is probably what he wanted all along anyways. What a shame.

Oh and if the Phillies only played the Padres they'd be World Champions every year.

should Donovan be speaking up? Some analysts say he should. They say the leaders should step up and not the backup lineman like Hollis Thomas. I dont think Donovan should have to talk. Hasnt he already proofed enough.

B-rad's predictions for Week 9


Carolina over Tampa Bay-
Houston loses Jacksonville-
Cincinnati over Baltimore -
Atlanta over Miami -
Detroit over Minnesota -
San Diego over NY Jets -
Tennessee loses Cleveland -
Oakland loses Kansas City -
Seattle over Arizona -
Chicago over New Orleans (at Baton Rouge) -
NY Giants over San Francisco -

Pittsburgh over Green Bay -
Philadelphia loses Washington -

MON, NOV 7
Indianapolis over New England-New England



Steelers w/o Big Ben will win 35-7
Farve will throw 3picks
Willie Parker 125 yrds rushing 2TD
Charlie Batch 200yrds passing 2TD

GO STEELERS

Kid A is gonna drool over what Tomlinson did to Ty Law today. The word Bitch doesnt even do justice to that move.

what did he do? I only catched some of the third quarter and the ending because I was at fuckin work, havent seen the highlights yet. Alls I know is that the Jets had about five chances to throw it or run it in and they fucked up. We finally win one of these ugly games. Whoooo.

He caught a pass out in the flat, it was a one on one with Ty Law. LT gave him a quick shimmy and Ty Laws ankles exploded while LT ran for the TD. An Amazing move.

haha, I just saw it. Ty Law just froze

Four touchdowns today for LT, great game by the defense, sweet stop there at the end by Quentin Jammer who earlier had a pass interferance against him for about 80 yards. Look out, we're now above .500. Who wants Phillip Rivers?

ah of course. (why do you make me post in these threads Kid? you know I understand NOTHING)

That was a nice move.

I think I actually saw Ty Laws jock strap on the ground

The Vikes won!!!!

Our offensive line actually played well.... then again, Detroit isn't exactly the most difficult team to play.

However, I must say, I've never been that big of a Dante Culpepper fan. He is a nice guy and I like him as a person, but I've never been that enamored with his QB talents. I feel bad for him .... his injury is A NIGHTMARE injury. It is very sad for him. But for the team, I think that Brad Johnson is a better QB. The ONLY benefit (imo) that Culpepper has is in rushing, however, the Vikings are very poor at utilizing that! In fact, to me it seems that the VAST majority of our plays are standard "in the pocket" plays....where Johson is much better.

The only problem with Johnson (imo) is that he is prone to injury. So as long as he stays healthy....I'm AOK with our "2nd string" QB starting!!!

And, at 3-5, would you believe we're still in the playoff hunt?!!!!!! How sad is the AFC North?!

What a week in NFL

TO is out of the Eagles organization after his four week suspension

A couple of cheer leaders got busy be4 a game in the bathroom(wish i was there )

Ty Law is out 4 weeks with broken ankles and maybe 5 if he cant find his jock strap

TO and his family is on one of those world hunger commercials and if you would like to donate call 1800send -more-diamonds

Thank you kid a

Could you make another for next week

Yeah man, of course, as soon as MNF is over. Though this week will definitely be hard to top. And which cheerleaders were caught doing it in a bathroom? where they getting busy with each other?

And does anybody else think this is the best picture of all time:

Lets go Colts! I want the Colts to win real bad for three reasons. 1) Being in Boston I am so annoyed by Boston sports fans that I just wish every one of their teams loses every game. 2) I hate Tom Brady 3) If they win I'll be four for four on my predicitions

I dont know who they were but all it sounded like were that there were only the two cheerleaders. It was on PTI and I mean if they were doin it with a player or something wouldnt it be a much bigger case. The white dude (Tony Cornheiser i think) said hed rather watch that than football. But go colts

Nice pic Kick it old school

Well i hate both Colts and Pats, but im rooting for the colts. Main reason, my Best friend is a Pats fan and i love to make fun of him. Go COLTS!

Well thats the game. Colts win. They won swiftly too. I wanted the Pats to win because I dont like undefeated teams (except for the (was it 74?) Dolphins) and because I'm an AFL guy and I'd always take the Pats before the Colts.

I'll get the scores for this week up later, I'll also set up the games for week 10 tomorrow

And Sin4Life....I hate the Raiders. I hate them with a passion, you are no longer my favourite poster

Heres week 9

ATL 17
MIA 10

OAK 23
KC 27

HOU 14
JAC 21

TEN 14
CLE 20

CIN 21
BAL 9

CAR 34
TB 14

SD 31
NYJ 26

DET 14
MIN 27

NYG 24
SF 6

SEA 33
ARI 19

CHI 20
NO 17

PIT 20
GB 10

PHI 10
WAS 17

IND 40
NE 21


*if we're gonna keep up the prediction thing you guys can write your results for the four games on the week 10 thread when you write the preds for said week*

4 for 4 baby! The Colts came up huge and as I expected, Edge ran all over the Pats sorry defense. Can you hear the monkey coming off Peyton's back??

BTW Kid, it was the 1972 Dolphins that went undefeated with such greats as Larry Csonka, Bob Griese, Earl Morrall, Mercury Morris, Paul Warfield, Larry Little, Bob Keuchenberg, Manny Fernandez and Nick Buoniconti. The greatest Football team ever

well i guess we are meant to hate each other. I'm a dodger and RAIDERS fan. And ur a Giants and little Bolts fan , jk. All is left is for u to be an america fan.

wow, 10 out of 14, not bad, my bold bet of the week nearly paid off, i actually thought that the jets where going to win.

I've been to Oakland. It was scary

Go Larry Johnson
You should have won the heisman