Alright guys heres week 10. We're more than half way through the season now and playoff pictures should begin to develop. Good teams should separate from the bad teams and some other random stuff should keep happening. The big happening around the league is, of course, the suspension of Terrell Owens for the rest of the season now and consequently the fact that hes not going to be playing in Philadelphia next year. Lets hope he goes to the Raiders so they can suck with two superstar wide receivers instead of just one.

Another big thing is the overall suckiness of both the Eagles and the Patriots. The Eagles woes are due to a number of things, mostly injuries. The Patriots problems are also somewhat due to injuries but mostly its that they suck. The Chargers have a bye week so this week is going to be lacking some entertainment.

Heres Week 10, games that count are in bold.

SUN NOV 13
New England at Miami -New England
Minnesota at NY Giants -Minnesota
Baltimore at Jacksonville -Jacksonville
Houston at Indianapolis -Indy (duh)
Arizona at Detroit -Arizona
San Francisco at Chicago -Da Bears
Kansas City at Buffalo -Buffalo
Denver at Oakland -Denver
NY Jets at Carolina -Carolina
Washington at Tampa Bay -Tampa Bay
St. Louis at Seattle -St Louis
Green Bay at Atlanta -Green Bay
Cleveland at Pittsburgh -Piitsburgh

MON, NOV 14
Dallas at Philadelphia-Philly

The Colts are playing the Texans again. Come on! could the Colts have had an easier schedule this year? They're probably going to be 14-0 until the Chargers kick their asses on week 15.

Oh and my record so far: 2-2

Jax over Ravens

KC over the Bills

Seattle over St. Louis

Philly over Dallas

MIAMI DOLPHINS OVER THA NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Simply cannot pick against the Chiefs after what happened this week. Dick Vermeil has officially reached Chuck Norris levels of manliness by going for it on 4th down to WIN the game. One of the ballsiest things Ive ever seen in football. The Patriots are nothing without their coordinators, and half their secondary. Dallas and Philly is a real head scratcher. I just cant seem to believe that Drew Bledsoe can still be an effective QB in the NFL yet he has somehow been good this year.

BTW Im 4-0

Actually I am debating in my head whether that was the manliest call in sports history. Its between Vermeil's call and that time the Diamondbacks intentionally walked Barry Bonds with the bases loaded. Now that was ballsy. But Vermeil's decision cost the Raiders the game so that wins it.

its ok, i won't mind seeing T.O. in all black and silver. well any ways heres my prediction.
Jacksonville over Baltimore
Kansas City over Buffalo
St. Louis over Seattle
Philadelphia over Dallas

my record 3-1

Hey looky what I found. A big bowl of Jello!



wait...no its Ty Law's legs.

i don't get it

your so full of yourself aren't you, thats alright, im the same way with the steelers, but i guess all those losing seasons, boring season that they had, you gota take advantage of the bragging rights while you can



Baltimore at Jacksonville -
Jacksonville

Houston at Indianapolis
Indianapolis

Arizona at Detroit
Detroit

San Francisco at Chicago
Chicago

Kansas City at Buffalo
Kansas City

Denver at Oakland
Denver

NY Jets at Carolina
Carolina

Washington at Tampa Bay
Washington

St. Louis at Seattle
Seattle

Green Bay at Atlanta
Green Bay

Cleveland at Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh of course

Colts bet of the week is

Dallas at Philadelphia
Dallas

good luck to you guys, and if your wondering, colts is my nickname, because my name is colton, so yeah, dont get confussed

Hey in two weeks the Eagles could quite possibly be back at the top of their division but its not likely

Here are my picks;
New England vs Miami-New England
Minnesota vs NY Giants-NY Giants
Baltimore vs Jacksonville-Jacksonville
Houston vs Colts-Colts
Arizona vs Detroit-Detroit
San Fran vs Bears-Bears
Chiefs vs Bills-Chiefs
Denver vs Oakland-Denver
Jets vs Carolina-Carolina
Washington vs Tampa-Washington
St Louis vs Seattle-Seattle
Green Bay vs Atlanta-Atlanta
Cleavland vs Pitt-Pitt
Philly vs Dallas-Dallas

Uhhhh. Que???? You're picking Minnesota to win???? to win OUTSIDE????? And for whatever reason, we ALWAYS suck against the Giants.

Now that's a ballsy pick!

TO had been suspended for the rest of the season hadn't he?

Is it me, or did I hear this somewher?

I believe so...but why are you asking me? BTW, kid a is quite right. He should go to Oakland. That way Moss & T.O. could take turns whining and complaining. Further, they could take turns on games that they actually try. Moss could give effort one game, then TO could give effort the next. ... or whatever they felt like.

It's almost like the American Football versions of Guti and Cisse..

Cisse is a choir boy compared to these guys. Anelka & Laurent Robert would be closer imo.

I was referring to their way of acting.

I know. Who is more cancerous to a team? Anelka or Cisse? Laurent Robert or Cisse?

Shit at this point Cisse is being a douche of a bag.

Well I dont think the Vikings can pull of a victory against anybody but I do hate Eli Manning even more than I hate the Raiders so I dont really care if they do beat the Giants, I just hope he gets sacked a couple of times.

NY Giants in an easy win

Well TO cannot keep himself from the cameras ans yesterday he came out with a really fake apology which he read to a few members of the media. He apologized to everybody (including me I think) and it was all butter there, at least he didnt have the George Bush smirk that he usually has. But then his agent took the mike and started blasting the media and refused to answer such questions as

"what have you done for T.O other than getting him kicked off the team?"

All in all he proved to be quite the asshole.

As it stands Owens is suspended without pay for four games and after that he'll be in the innactive list, which means he will get payed but he wont play. What he wants is to get payed for the nine games he wont play and not just for the five that he will spend on the inactive list, again this all seems like bullocks to me. The only thing he can do to get back in peoples good side is fire that idiot of an agent.

I don't watch much football it used to be on Sunday afternoons but it isn't anymore, ah well.

I'm rooting for that team that has lost all their games so far! Who is that by the way?

Well it was the Houston Texans but they won like two weeks ago so theres no more winless teams. But still you'd be better off following the Chargers

The vikings are pretty shitty, so you could cheer for us!

Cheer for the Eagles and TO

Go the Chargers!!! And the vikings!!! Oh and Eagles and TO aswell!!!! Go team!

Or the Raiders,

I've made up my mind sorry Josh, Sin4lfe and Everton Pride, and thankyou Kid a you are the man and these are the women oh yeah!
http://www.chargers.com/chargergirls/index.cfm

How do you guys like Randy Moss? You're so very welcome.

Well i have a new favorite team
Sweet post

Go Charge- hello!

You see thoose girls have inspired me to create this....

Wow I finally get a convert

Good on you mate, you have come to the right side. I dont know if that page with the cheerleaders has pictures of the cute little outfits they were wearing on Halloween, now those were the shit. And do they still have the redhead? I loves the redhead.

edit: oh and you know who created the team? Paris Hilton's grandfather. So you know we rock.

Click my sig mate they're all there from Alicia to Tiffany

well chosen i say , you like going for losers, your have chosen well, JK kid a,

very good point there, chelsea.

Typical British philosiphy, go for the under-dogs

Hey the eagles cheerleaders are very nice too, but lets keep this to a american football forum alright. Make a topic like that if you wanna and are allowed, you will get a lot of posts

dont get me wrong though
Im all for boobs

T.O. K.O.

This hard to believe -- shocking, almost -- and no one would have predicted it. But Nick and Jessica outlasted Terrell Owens and Donovan McNabb.

And just over one year ago, there was so much hope, too. T.O. took a timeout to do his best to clear the air and his reputation, all in one sitting.

Asked two Septembers ago, shortly after his arrival in Philadelphia, if people were waiting for him to fail, T.O. responded in his usual candid way.

"No. If they are, they'll be waiting for a long time."

A similar question on the same day was posed to McNabb: Are people waiting for T.O. to screw up?

"Probably, more than half," McNabb said. "But here we don't have to worry about that. We just have to make sure we're on the same page and hopefully we can turn the negative into a positive."

Even Eagles coach Andy Reid, seemingly so polar opposite of T.O., defended the man who grew to be a "Total Outcast" in San Francisco.

"What people don't understand is, T.O.'s a good person," Reid said in September 2004. "Competitive guy, competitive in practice, at the Pro Bowl. Loves to play the game, emotional. I welcome that into my locker room. He's publicly said there are things he wished he wouldn't have done. It's important to learn from that and grow. I give everyone an equal shot in our locker room."

T.O. then chimed in. "I just think there are critics waiting for you to do something they can pounce on you for. They've been doing that my whole career in San Francisco. Incidents out there; the week after they are looking for me to drop a pass or screw up royal in the game, but I've always relied on my faith and abilities, so regardless of what they say, good or bad, I'm going to go out there and play."

Reid: "As long as he understands ... how I operate ... guys like Donovan McNabb do ... what I and this team are all about, I don't think you have those problems."

Initially there were no problems -- only proposals. A man at Eagles training camp actually held up a sign that, in a different type of brotherly love, read, "Marry me T.O.!"

T.O. himself also was filled with love, talking of his new relationship with his new quarterback, their new beginning, the vows they had taken.

"If you want to say he's been missing a receiver like me, then yeah," T.O. said. "If you want to say I've been missing a quarterback like him, then yeah."

They were perfect, a match as good as Philly and cheesesteaks. And then, it was as if some sort of expiration date passed. The cheese went bad.

The first taste of it came after the Super Bowl -- T.O.'s glorious Super Bowl -- when he openly stated that he wasn't the one who "got tired" in the big game.

His first shot at McNabb. But hardly the last.

Later, T.O. called McNabb a "puppet" for the Eagles organization, even if that puppet once pleaded for his master to bring in the troubled wide receiver.

As if that weren't enough, T.O. later accused McNabb of being a "hypocrite," a charge that went without substantiation.

To cap it off, T.O. proclaimed that Brett Favre's "knowledge of the quarterback position" would make him a better candidate to quarterback the Eagles -- an implication that McNabb's knowledge isn't as extensive as it actually is.

Maybe it was that T.O. resented McNabb's popularity. Maybe it was McNabb's position of authority. Or, most likely, it was McNabb's earning power.

But just as T.O. once slimed his former quarterback in San Francisco, Jeff Garcia, he had done the same for his biggest ally in Philadelphia, Donovan McNabb. T.O. became an offensive Warren Sapp -- a QB killa.

Finally, T.O. realized it, but couldn't even accept it. At his nationally televised press conference in front of the house in which he once did the most famous set of sit-ups, he delivered the Moorestown Manifesto.

In it, he tried to apologize to McNabb, but couldn't even bring himself to fully do it. He apologized for actions that "may have" offended his quarterback.

May have? He did.

And that, in a nutshell, is why T.O. is done. He never could admit he was wrong.

Not to try to be Dr. Phil or anything, but the larger lesson here -- and we see it constantly in personal and professional instances -- is that relationships constantly change.

But T.O., no matter how much he insists he has, doesn't.
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Seeing as I'm a football fan I amy as well post this up here.

lol great post

Who is gonna pick him up?

best line i have heard for ages, nick and jessica lasting longer then TO and MacNab

Broncos win and go 7-2. Colts here we come

I heard about some guy who broke the world record with 108 yards or something whats all that about?

Chicago? against?? can't remember. Anyway, a very LONG Field Goal attempt landed well short in the end zone and the Bears (who were defending) received the ball in the endzone and miraculously ran it back for a TD.

BTW....Kid a is a genius. The vikes beat the Giants!

Cool.

Sleepless nights

1. Terrell Owens, Eagles: Public enemy No. 1 in Philly has his unexplainable behavior separate him from the game he loves.

2. Joey Harrington, Lions: Poor guy might have to start in front of the home fans this week.

3. Duane Starks, Patriots: He has to be dreaming of footballs flying over his head.

4. Chris Simms, Buccaneers: He could be too inconsistent for Jon Gruden's liking.

5. Ty Law, Jets: Was that LaDainian who just passed by me?

That wind in Chicago was incredible, the kickers were kicking to miss so that the wind would carry the ball in but I guess there was huge draft coming in and just made the kickers look bad. Thats why soldier field still rocks. Do they count it as a 108 yard return or do they count it from the 1 yard line?

Oh and Manc mate, the only game Terrell Owens loves is money.

They count it as 108. It went down as the longest play in NFL history.

Good, because the NFL can be reall assholes sometimes when it come to this sort of stuff (unless its Peyton Manning or Tom Brady running the ball back from 108 yards)

A couple of other things:

Nah Josh, I'm not a genius I just really really really really hate Eli Manning and

Dom, the Broncos beat The Raiders, The Raiders...

Did I hear on the news some team scored from a Punt Return, a Field Goal Return and some other type of return? I heard it was some kind of record.

Go Cincinnati!

How about Gruden and the Bucs this week!? Going for the 2-point to win after having the extra point to tie blocked... Im pretty sure his testicles must be bigger than T.O's ego. Speaking of which, Im so happy they lost to Dallas tonight, I hate Philly, but that was mostly because of TO so know I dont know what to do.

I've decided that the Seahawks are going to win the NFC, and the Packers still might win the NFC North, go Favre.



...look at the 4 posts in front of you discussing this... some people's children

That McGahee fellow will be hungary for sucsess against the Chargers is he any good?

Ok Kids heres the scores for week 10:

New England 23, Miami 16
Minnesota 24, NY Giants 21
Jacksonville 30, Baltimore 3
Indianapolis 31, Houston 17
Detroit 29, Arizona 21
Chicago 17, San Francisco 9
Buffalo 14, Kansas City 3
Denver 31, Oakland 17
Carolina 30, NY Jets 3
Tampa Bay 36, Washington 35
Seattle 31, St. Louis 16
Green Bay 33, Atlanta 25
Pittsburgh 34, Cleveland 21

Dallas 21, Philadelphia 20

A couple of big things this week including the 108 yard return by the Bears, the biggest though was the collapse that the Eagles suffered at the end of that game last night, they were winning by two scores with four minutes to go and then...well they lost. The biggest surprise of the season: The Bears! wow, 6-3. I'm taking them as my NFC pick I guess because all the other teams either suck or I hate. Indy is still undefeated but just look at that beautiful schedule they have, nicely done NFL.

well i got 9 out of 12 right, and 3 out of 4 in the ones that count, thats alright, suprised at the chiefs though, i thought they would put up more of a fight.

for me, this week was about hines and the eagles, the eagles proved that they need TO, and hines became the best pittsburgh reciever ever with his 8 catches on the weekend, supassing the great stalworth, but did you see the bus run, what a great sight, to see the bus pick up some passengers,

batch had a great game before he left the feild injuried which was a shame,

LT, you know who im talking about, eat your heart out, 3 pass TDS, who cares, there all been 1 yard throws, Randle El, 50+ yard pass, no wait, it was

a HB play action fake with a reverse run action fake WR pass option pass

now thats a great play, not these stupid 1 yard HB option pass.

best thing about it was, did you see the spiral it had, and it was beutifully played and passed, 51 yard pass.

no major suprises for me other then the giants losing to the vikings, but i did say that now that johnson is the QB for the vikings, i think they'll get to the playoffs, but did you see the hit he took when he got sacked, what a hit.

chris sims, what a pass to the underated joey galloway, its great to see him back in the news, as for them going for 2, i reackon they pulled up short, but thats just me