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dreamlander
Hey, did anyone, or more precisely either of ye 2 laugh.gif see the TNA Impact a few weeks ago where Rhyno came out and spoke about how Paul Heyman and/or Vince McMahon approached him to go back on ECW? I normally dont like Rhyno, i think he isnt the best wrestler despite the fact he has an incredible build for it and his mike skills are pretty ordinary, bar screaming GORRRRRRRRREEE alot he doesnt do much, but this really impressed me.

He came out holding the old ECW World Heavuweight championship belt which he has held since ECW shut down seeing as he was the champ at the time, and went on about how McMahon and Heyman were saying how they were gonna bring back ECW and they wanted all the old stars and all the old extremism and ll that sit...well the TNA fans got a little nervy at the sight of the belt, but Rhyno stormed outta the ring in the middle of his little story telling, went down backstage and out into the car park, looking like he was gonna leave.

But instead he walked over to a pile of pallets and a rubbish bin, where he dumped the belt into, drowned it in lighter fluid and threw in a match burning the old belt. He said that ECW died a few years ago and if they brought it back, it was gonna be for the wrong reasons so he was gonna do his damndest and burn the belt. I mean without the original Heavyweight title, not to mention the champion, merely undermines the show, undermines Heyman and undermines the wrestlers, not to mention whoever is responsable for making the show so UNextreme that its just another wrestling show!



Oh and on another note, Angle Samoa Joe could be the greatest feud in wrestling history, they are both AWESOME ring technicians, both AWESOME on the mike and create AWESOME atmospheres.

This rivalry could be exactly what TNA needs to challenge WWE. Christian/Sting versus Jarret was never gonna do as it had at least 2 guys who were on WWE but in the end werent really wanted by McMahon (Jarrett just did nothing in his WWE career, mayeb a quick intercontinental reig but i think that was it while Christian was just wasting away in shite story lines) but this isnt the story with Angle. Angle was a proper player in WWE. Why he was sent to ECW is an absolute mystery to me as he could have had some awesome feuds with Batista, Cena and Edge if tehy had pushed it, but Nope, a WWE fuck up has left them open for a true war in wrestling terms.

I just need to get into TNA regularly enough to catch it all. I tend to miss it for some strange reason. But the showdown i saw last week....oooh, it looked really like Joe was NOT expecting that sneaky headbutt from Angle. It just didnt look right and Joe seemed genuinely shocked.

pRoud Red
yeah i saw that shoot from rhino against mcmahon and ecw. i generally think that these kind of shoots by tna against wwe are poor but i cannot deny that i enjoyed rhinos little speech against mcmahon heyman and ecw hehehe. bigsmile.gif
he seemed extremely mad, pissed off ranting.gif .

the kurt angle vs samoa joe feud will be huge, i said this before. they could brawl all day long and it would not get boring IMO. they are both so gifted and it is the dream match of every wrestler. adn i also think they will have more than just one match maybe they will put in a legendary match series that everybody will remember.

hey dreamlander if you miss some of the action going on on tna you can allways come in here and ask me or mane whats going on in the impact zone thumbsup.gif

BTW: i think burke and terkay will be shipped over to ECW shrug03.gif
and some of the next scheduled matches for rhino and cage are big. this week they will have a weapons on a pole match and on november 16th they will be put in a barbes wire cage match eyepopping.gif
Mané Garrincha
Yea just for the record, Terkay and Burke have gone to ECW, as have Daivari and Khali, except Khali will now be in Daivari's corner as he hasn't fully healed from his knee surgery yet.

On the subject of ECW, what about the Extreme Elimination Chamber? Hopefully that lives up to expectations, so far we have RVD, Show, Sabu and Punk in it, I assume Test will qualify for it so that leaves one spot left, which I'm guessing will go to Holly. Sandman or Balls Mahoney could make it, but I'm going with Holly. Should be awesome though, I freaking love the Elimination Chamber.

BTW I totally agree about Triple H, his ego is just to huge now and he will only put his good friends (HBK for example) over, and even then it is for a few months only. Whoer HHH is feuding with, they ultimately look weak, be it on the mic or in the ring, and in my opinion that is down to HHH's huge ego and marrige into the McMahon family.

I am by no means a fan of Randy Orton, I think he is a horrible wrestler and a real life asshole, but he and Edge definately deserve a push imo, they are arguably the top heels in professional wrestling at the moment. Plus they are relatively young, this feud could do wonders for them for the future and two old veterans are holding them back (HHH moreso than HBK? I think its bullshit tbh.

Still on a better note, the Carlito/Shelton/Nitro match was good, man WWE really need to push those three, Shelton in particlar, I'd love to see him main eventing, he definately needs to move to SmackDown! imo, the show has a much more technical, athletic feel to it imo. Oh btw did you see the Cryme Tyme segment, where they stole the tv set, damn that was hilarious laugh.gif

And has anyone seen what Angle's been saying recently? He's been saying how he could beat Mixed Martial Artist Daniel Puder in under 40 seconds. This all goes back to the WWE's Tough Enough contest in 2004, Puder had to wrestle Angle in a pure wrestling match (freestyle amatuer, no strikes etc) on SmackDown!, anyway Angle won the match controversially, Puder's shoulders wern't fully on the mat, however the big talking point was that Puder had Angle in a Kimura/Key Hole lock, supposedly Angle ordered the ref to make a fast count so as to ensure he wouldn't tap out on live tv. Puder is angry at this and has recently been calling Angle out. Finally Angle responded by saying if he met him in the Cage, it would be over in under 40 seconds. Angle then went on to say how he could beat Tito Orbaiz and Chuck Lidell, that is not something you want to go around saying. Anyway supposedly Angle is in talks with an MMA organisation to fight, the rumour has it that he wants Shamrock to train him. I'll try and find the video of the Puder - Angle match. It was extremely unprofessional from Puder, it was a fucking wrestling match, you don't go locking in a Key Hole lock in a wrestling match.

And here is what happened at this week's SmackDown!, hosted in Ken Kennedy's hometown, supposedly he got a huge pop from the crowd.

Rey comes out on crutches which in turn brings out Chavo and Vickie, they gice Rey the beatdown until Benoit comes down and makes the save.

Teddy Long then comes out an tells the crowd how he wants to protect King Booker in fear of ECW and RAW guys coming down and weakening him for Cyber Sunday.

London and Kendrick def Stevens and James - Supposedly some very, very good spots in this match, was supposedly an awesome match.

Kennedy comes out to a huge pop, the hometown crowd love him, as he is doing his announcing shit the fans copy him, he tells them to shutup as he can do it himself.

Undertaker and Kane def Kennedy and MVP - Taker and Kane win almost immediately after Kennedy and MVP flee the ring, Teddy Long comes out and makes the match a no ocount out match. Kennedy low blows Kane but Long comes out and makes the match a no dq match. After a short while, Kane and Taker hit simultaneous chokeslams, leaving Taker to deliver the Tombstone to Kennedy.

Miz and Kristal def Vito and Layla - Average match, not much to talk about, Boogeyman again comes out and puts worms on Kristal again.

Helms def Wang Yang - A new diva named Angel debuted as Wang Yang's manager, supposedly a very good match. Afterwards both Sylvan and Hardy came to the ring.

JBL stepped into the ring, the crowd loved him, then in a way only JBL could do, he talked down Wisconsin sports teams (where SmackDown! was being filmed), destroying the Bucks, Brewers and Packers. Crowd gave him huge boos.

Batista, I assume acting as a bodyguard, helps Booker to his limo, in spite of some low mid card ECW and RAW dudes trying to attack him. For his help Teddy Long grants Batista a no dq match with Finlay.

Batista def Finlay - Batista had huuuge pyro, extremely loud, supoosedly a decent match with Big Dave running out the winner.





BTW I've been re reading Angle's autobiography 'It's true It's true' recently and I decided to post this. Totally inspirational, on the days when I need to motivate myselft to train, lift or run I simply have to read this.

Nobody paid the price like I did for two years leading up to the Olympics. I'd always trained hard, but once I recommitted myself after my Steelers fantasy, I took it to another level. Because the nature of freestyle wrestling forced me to tone down my aggressive style, I decided the only way to beat some of these guys was to wear them down, break their will with better conditioning. So for two years I trained morning, afternoon and night, just about every day. I'd take maybe one full day off a month, and maybe another half day somewhere. I was determined to make myself the best - conditioned wrestler in the world. I felt it would give me an edge, physically and mentally, that I needed.

Now matter how much conditioning you do as a wrestler, everybody gets exhausted, especially at the elite level. But when I'd get to that point where my body was telling me to quit, it was so used to being in that numbing state that it didn't affect me. I could work through it. My secret was what I called "fatigue training". I trained to the point where I was fatigued, and didn't want to do anymore. And that's when I'd just be getting started.

A lot of guys train until they're fatigued, then quit. I learned to train through my state of fatigue, and when you do that, you don't lose your mindset, your strategy, or your game plan because you're worried about being exhausted. Your mind works through it. I'm a firm believer that your body is capable of doing 100 times more then what you think you can. So much of it is in your head.

So here was a normal day of training for me when I was home, living with my mom in the condominium she had moved into after the other kids had moved out of our old house: I'd get up in the morning, go to the workout facility there at the condo complex, warm-up for about 20 minutes on an exercise bike, and do some stretching. Then I'd go for a four mile run through the hills of Pittsburgh. Every hill I'd hit, I'd sprint as hard as I could, usually for about 200 or 300 yards. I'd do that run in about twenty-eight minutes; seven minutes a mile. When I got done I was pretty tired, but that's when my training was just beginning. My Manager, Jim Perri, would come over to be my partner and I'd grab him and do about fifteen sprints up this steep hill that was about 200 yards long. Jim weighed about 180 pounds, and I'd run up the hills carrying him on my back, and that was a killer. That's a lot of weight to be carrying up a hill at full speed. We'd both jog down the hills, and then I'd do it again. And again. And again. Only I'd change the way I carried him. One time I'd hold him in front of me, the way you would carry your wife over the threshold when you get married. That's even harder, on your back and thigh. Then I’d carry him piggyback. Then I'd put him in a fireman's carry. I'd get to the point where I felt like I was going to fall over, completely exhausted. And then move on to the hardest carry drill of all. I would wrap a bungee cord around me, and my partner would hold me back, so I'd be running against resistance - like Rocky Balboa pulling that sled in the snow in the movie Rocky 4 over in Russia. It would take a minute, a minute and a half, to get up the hill because the guy was pulling so hard to resist me. I'd do about 10 of those, to the point where I could hardly stand.

If it sounds like torture, it was. And I was doing it faithfully every day. I could see it starting to pay off in a matter of months. I began to see that if I wore down some of those huge heavyweights that have been beating me for a couple of years, I could do whatever I wanted with them. By the time I got to the Olympics, I wasn't the strongest wrestler there, or even the most technically sound. I can't say I was smarter then all the rest, but I was the best conditioned.

After dinner, I'd go lift weights in the evening for a couple of hours. So I was doing three - a - days everyday, putting in an average of about seven hours a day of conditioning...A lot of things I did, I can't imagine doing anymore. I used to take eighty-pound dumbbells and do 100 jump squats. I wouldn't be able to walk when I was finished. My training was so crazy. I've yet to meet or hear of a person who trained harder then me. I've met people who trained just as hard, but not harder. The training was sacred to me.


In the weight room I used to do crazy stuff too, stuff no one else did, as a way to combine strength and endurance, and intensity. I would squat 225 pounds as many times as I could. Once I did it 77 times. To an athlete who lifts weights, 225 pounds is not a lot of weights to squat, but I guaran-damn-tee you that the strongest man in the world - somebody who could squat 800 or 900 pounds, can't squat 225 pounds for 77 times without stopping. You can't believe how heavy 225 pounds gets after 30 or 40 reps. My brother Eric can squat 720 pounds, but he can't squat 225 pounds more then 40 times. I couldn't walk when I was finished, but that was the idea. I'd burn my legs out, then do my power clean and my dead lifts with very heavy lifts.

It was all about fatigue training. I was always changing up my routine, pushing myself to the max. I'd change the weight on those squats each week. The week after I did 25, I'd do 315 pounds for 41 times. The following week, 405 pounds for 28 reps.. Then one week, I'd drop down to 135 pounds, and doing 136 reps one time.

People told me that you just lift for maintenance during your season; use light weights, just to keep your strength. But I didn't believe in that. To me, if you're just maintenance training, you're actually loosing strength. I always went with the idea of lifting heavy, getting an intense workout. And I was able to keep my strength, sometimes even improve throughout the season. So I'd start with those squats, then do a series of lifts, doing different body parts on different days. At the end of each workout, I did plyometrics. I'd hold sixty, or eighty-pound dumbbells in my hand, squat down, and jump up as high as I could. I'd do about fifty to one hundred of those. Then I'd do the same thing on one leg. I'd lunge up on a bench and come back down on it - twenty-five for each leg. Then I'd grab 30-pound dumbbells and hop back and forth over a bench. Those types of exercises really helped my explosiveness.

And I did some variation of this whole regimen every day. There were plenty of days when I didn't feel like getting up in the morning for another day of torture, but if I didn't get up I'd feel guilty. I'd start thinking about my dad. Sometimes I'd turn that alarm clock off and roll over in bed. But then I'd be lying there thinking, "What would my dad think? Would he be okay with me going back to sleep, or would he want me to get my ass out of bed and get back to work to accomplish my goal?" And before I knew it, I'd be out there on the street running. That motivation for doing it for dad was always there, and some days I needed it.
dreamlander
QUOTE(pRoud Red @ Nov 1 2006, 07:24 PM) *


hey dreamlander if you miss some of the action going on on tna you can allways come in here and ask me or mane whats going on in the impact zone thumbsup.gif




Cheers man. Much appreciated. I do like wrestling, but the shows tend to take a hit every now and again for various late night drinking reasons tongue.gif

QUOTE(Mané Garrincha @ Nov 1 2006, 09:12 PM) *



And has anyone seen what Angle's been saying recently? He's been saying how he could beat Mixed Martial Artist Daniel Puder in under 40 seconds. This all goes back to the WWE's Tough Enough contest in 2004, Puder had to wrestle Angle in a pure wrestling match (freestyle amatuer, no strikes etc) on SmackDown!, anyway Angle won the match controversially, Puder's shoulders wern't fully on the mat, however the big talking point was that Puder had Angle in a Kimura/Key Hole lock, supposedly Angle ordered the ref to make a fast count so as to ensure he wouldn't tap out on live tv. Puder is angry at this and has recently been calling Angle out. Finally Angle responded by saying if he met him in the Cage, it would be over in under 40 seconds. Angle then went on to say how he could beat Tito Orbaiz and Chuck Lidell, that is not something you want to go around saying. Anyway supposedly Angle is in talks with an MMA organisation to fight, the rumour has it that he wants Shamrock to train him. I'll try and find the video of the Puder - Angle match. It was extremely unprofessional from Puder, it was a fucking wrestling match, you don't go locking in a Key Hole lock in a wrestling match.



Man thats crazy. I have seen that Puder guy and he looks a beast though i havent seen him in action really. I'm very surprised by these alleged comments by Angle. He usually seemed so respectful and polite when talking about his opponents. This lends me to believe that his stint on TNA may only be a short term thing....pretty much just this feud with Samoa Joe, as the UFC (whihc i am a MASSIVE fan of) fighters tend to start shit all in the anme of publicity. They have a fight that has a massive profile and all this supposed background and after the fight the lads are really good mates and extremely respectful of each other, like a brotherhood. If these are true comments, its very much the UFC style of comment to get a crowd and public interest in the event.

Saying that, for the record Mane its Tito Ortiz, not Orbaiz and whatever about him, i reckon Chuck Liddell would knock Angle out. The punching power he has is fearsome, and i dont think Angel knows how to defend a boxer. Liddell has fought wrestlers all his career and beaten them all, he can defend the take down, but whether Angel can defend the punch is a MAJOR doubt of mine!
pRoud Red
smackdowns ratings are getting better week after week. and it is really no wonder why.

smackdown is absolutely brillant with wel-thoght and structured storylines. good gimmicks that make sense and really brilliant matches.

this weeks smackdown was very good IMO.
the tag team match was very good. both tag-teams operated in there own wrestling style and it was enjoyable to watch. i think it would have been better if kc james and idol stevens would have won the match by a distraction of michelle mccool though.

gregory helms vs jimmy wang yang was brilliant. jimmy has got so much potential its unreal. his mic-work is very good and he is over.
smackdown should get supercrazy back(why he got drafted to raw is beyond me) and one or two good cruiserweights and push the CW-Divsion.maybe putting in rey mysterio in the cruiserweight-division that would be a hughe push but i dont think it wil happen or if its a good idea.

seeing kane and the undertaker in the same ring together was chilling feeling. they should try and convince the undertaker to wrestle regularly for 3 or 4 months to start a gigantic feud between him and kane. that would be incredible because these two have at least two classic matches left. theres no doubt about that.

tnas show was good.
well sabin lost his title after just two weeks(technically two days) to aj styles. i've got two words for ya Vince Russo!
i think sabin will turn heel and i think it is a very good idea. i think he was heel before in 2003 and thats when he was the best. i also think he will start feuding with jerry lynn wich means he will come back and start wrestling again. it is going to be a great feud with sabin beeing the disrespectful heel assuming to be the future of the x-division(well he is the future of the x-division) and j lynn the top face the creator of the x-division.
i think this feud will push the x-division again because lately the x-div was nothing more than chaotic spotwrestling with wrestlers with no real gimmicks. you can swap chris sabin with sonjay dutt or lethal there is no difference.

kurt angle is going to face the winner of the F4TRT and i dont think it is a good idea because i cant see kurt angle losing his first match and of course tna wants him to get to genesis strongly with a solid victory at the prime time debut.
on the other hand it is bad if the winner of the fightfortheright loses prior to his championship match. the fans want a credible opponent for sting who is in great position to be in a title match.
of course you can end the match by DQ or countouts or outside interferrence(sp?) but i am not a fan of that
dreamlander
Have to say, Smackdown was pretty good. Its improved alot since i last sat down and watched it through. I think they are wasting Lashley by having him feud with Tatanka.

The Brothers of Destruction were impressive to watch...took MVP and Kennedy apart and just looked like the good ol days. Kanes laugh i reckon was totally genuine, he really seemed to enjoy the fight.

The tag team match was of course excellent, its gettin a bit too regular, for the sake of the tag team division they need to shake it up a bit. You cant have the same 2 teams fighting each other week after week after week. Mix it up a bit. Put them in 6 man tags, or mixed tags, or put the lads in one on ones against each other. I think Kendrick and London are awesome and would hate to see them just end up fighting the same 2 lads week after week.

Jimmy wang yang, ya he's class in the ring, but his gimmick annoys me, he's the polar opposite to the Boogeyman, possibly the best gimmick after the undertaker and is possibly the worst wrestler. Yes, even considering Khali!
pRoud Red
my view on cyber sunday

i have to say that i am not dissapointed because i did not have high expections from the ppv.

umaga: i really like him. í think he has got a lot of potential and could make it very far in the wwe IMO.this is of course if the wwe can bring him up slowly and carefully. not like bobby lashley appearently he is pissed off about feuding with tatanka and wants to go to ecw.but thats another matter.umaga is very athletic for his size and has tons of moves in his arsenal. but in his match against kane he seemed too dominant for me. kane had some good moves too but all in all it was umaga in action the whole match. that is something he can work on and will work on.

kane: poor little kane, just when you think, yes he gets his push coming to smackdown teaming up with taker and so on, shit like this happens.the fans voted for him even though it was clear as daylight that whoever will be umagas opponent will lose.
if i would have been vince mcmahon on that night i would have manipulated the votes and let sandman job for umaga.

the womens match was good IMO. mickie and lita are two extremly good wrestlers but the only thing that annoyed was that it was a lumberjack match but okay. a submission match would have been awesome.

ric flair and piper are the new world tag team champs. congrats to them i am really happy for em. but the matches they will have wont be spectacular and that is sad because that title is so undervalued because of crappy champs and boring matches. ric flair is still decent he can be great in the ring but piper as much as i like you, you are in bad shape and you have never been a good wrestler please take the mic and do the pipers pit but leave the wrestling to others. this may sound negative but like i said they are both legends i am happy for them that they became champs one more time but what this world tt title needs are proper tag teams with ability.(such as cryme tyme)
but thinking about that the spirit squad really got annoying and the other tag teams of raw are crap also so maybe its the best wwe could do giving the oldies the belt.

carlito vs hardy had the potential to be a good match as we all know but fuckups at the very beginning dragged the atmosphere and the pace of the match down. from then on cool and hardy looked rusty and extremly unconfident. the crowd fell asleep and in the end noone cared who is going to win.

dx vs rated r-ko
it was the best match of the evening with a solid build-up, momentum shifts and a very good finish.and hell yeah eric bishoff was the special guest referee. he needs to become raws GM right now.randy orton and edge have won the match which refreshes this feud.

the champion of champions match
i did not expect the match to be that good. all three of the are not the most technical high flyers in the business but they wrestled the best they could IMO. but big show beeing out for so long in the middle of the match was a bit funny. he played referee it seemed.booker ts title was on the line and he won. yes our lord is the champion of champions. yes and he pinned cena.he was also the best performer in the match.
but the finish to this match was so bad. kevin federline seemes to be the bigest rival of the WWE champ john cena. how pathetic is that raw truly sux. and i mean big time.k-fed was the one who helped king booker to win this important match. horrorble(sp?).

books promo with john cena ill go down as a classic
booker t is fucking entertainment.
ron simmons is a fucking legend...damn...
dreamlander
Dammit, my sky plus crashed and lost my Cyber Sunday recording, so thanks Proud Red for the review. I missed it all....

Anyways, watched an Impact show and on the Angle Samoa Joe feud, i have a bad feeling they are gonna fuck the feud up. fair enough, the 2 lads are gonna have a great figth no matter what happens, but there is no mic work down and no ragging on each other AT ALL. Angle comes out and talks about how Joe is unbeatable and than how he can bleed. Joe comes out and i expected a bit of smack talking to be traded but instead Joe just rushed Angle and a crappy little brawl broke out. The locker room came out to restrain the 2 lads, but i felt it was an awful let down.
Mané Garrincha
Survivor Series is shaping up to be a very good ppv, so far these are the five matches booked:

Team DX (HHH, HBK, CM PUNK and Matt and Jeff Hardy) vs Team Rated RKO (Edge, Randy Orton, Mike Knox, Gregory Helms and Johnny Nitro) in a traditional Survivor Series Elimination tag match.

Team Cena (John Cena, Kane, Bobby Lashley, RVD and Sabu) vs Team Show (Big Show, Test, Finlay, Umaga and MVP) in a traditional Survivor Series Tag match.

Chavo Guerrero vs Chris Bennit.

Undertaker vs Ken Kennedy.

King Booker vs Batista for the World Heavyweight Championhip.

Four of the five matchs have great potential imo, especially the Survivor Series tag team matches, which I love. Survivor Series is shaping up to be an excellent ppv, and one which I will definately order.

I heard about the Lashley rumour too, supposedly he doesn't get along with 'Fabulous Freedbird' Michael Hayes (remember him?), I guess that explains his de push.

And there have been extremely strong rumours that MMA star Bob 'The Beast' Sapp is in talks with WWE. The only stumbling block appears to be Sapp's willingness to film movies (he was in Longest Yard) and contiue fighting in MMA, which WWE is against. For those of you who don't know who Sapp is, here is a pic:


IPB Image

Yea that's right muthafucka' 350 pounds of pure muscle, this dude makes Lesnar, Goldberg, Batista, Lashley and Brown look small, I'm telling you this guy is huge.


SmackDown! spoilers here btw, heres what happened:

King Booker cut a promo, Teddy Long came out and said that at Survivor Series the King would face of against Gaatista with the title on the line (how many times ahs this been done? I', guessing Bokk will be disqualified and keep the strap), he also said he'd face Lashley now.

King Booker def Lashley: A good match from the two rivals, Book won wen Queen Sharmell got on the aron and distracted the reft allowing Book to get a schoolboy pin on Lashley.

MVP came into Long's office complaining about the tag match last week, Long said if he was so upset, he could face Kane next week in a streetfight.

Benoit attempted to talk to Chavo and Vickie about Rey, it ended up that Chavo will face Bneoit at Survivor Series.

Wang Yang and Hardy def Sylvan and Helms: In what was said to have been WWE's best match this week, Hardy and Wang Yang won when Hardy pinned Helms following a Twist of Fate from the top rope.

Kennedy came out and cut a promo about Taker's illustrious 16 year career, Undertaker entered only for Kennedy to batter him with the microphone. After every assault Taker sat up, Kennedy hit Taker with the microphone an amazing 24 times.

Chris Benoit def KC James: A good match as you'd expet from Benoit, hit the Triple Germans then followed up with the Suicide Headbutt before finishing up with the Crossface.

BoogeyMan def TJ Dutton: BoogeyMan defeats a random jobber in a squash match, said to be very, very poor quality.

Kristal confronted Miz about his abandoning of her last week, Miz then challenges BoogeyMan for next week.

Batista def Finlay: A supposedly good match, Little Bastard interfered twice, King Booker interferes and distracts Booker, Finlay goes to elbow Batista but inadvertadly hits Book. Batista spinebusters Finlay for the win.

Also a spoiler for Impact! scheduled to be shown November 12th. I'll only post the last match as the rest is quite long and I don't really have the time. Anyway here goes.

Angle def Abyss: In a back and forth match Angle defeated the Monster Known as Abyss via the Ankle Lock. Very good match in which Father Mitchell attempted to get Abyss to use a barrel full of thmbtacks on Angle. Angle hit the Olympic Germans on Abyss and went for the Olypmic Slam, only for Abyss to counter into a Black Hole Slah. Angle kicks out and locks in the Ankle Lock. Abyss taps out.

After the match has finished Samoa Joe enters. Angle hits a belly to belly suplex on Joe, Joe the hits Kurt with an enziguri and goes for a Kokina Clutch. Angle counters into an Ankle Lock. Joe escapes and hits Angle with a chairshot. Joe tosses Angle into the ring where Abyss is waitnig. The two men assault the Olympic Hero until Sting comes down from the rafters. Abyss prepares to combat Sting only for the Stinger to jump from the platform he is standing on to send Abyss into the tacks he was going to use on Angle earlier. Joe then gets up and puts Angle i the Ankle Lock. After a few seconds he lets up and instead puts a battered and bloodied Angle into the Kokina Clutch. He lets go and takes Angles blood, and wipes it on his chest (I remember Brock did that to Hogan a few years ago).





pRoud Red
wow survivor series sounds brilliant man. is it in three weeks.

yeah i saw bobb sapp in k-one before. he is one bad ass motherfucker. a genetic freak. a monster.

RAW. ive got only one word for ya boooooring. i wont get too detailed on this weeks show because it would go down as the biggest rant in soccerpulse history. raw is a fucking disgrace absolute utter shite.

ECW: big thumps up from me. getting better in all areas the feuds and the wrestling. top stuff.
Mané Garrincha
QUOTE(pRoud Red @ Nov 9 2006, 08:58 PM) *

wow survivor series sounds brilliant man. is it in three weeks.

yeah i saw bobb sapp in k-one before. he is one bad ass motherfucker. a genetic freak. a monster.

RAW. ive got only one word for ya boooooring. i wont get too detailed on this weeks show because it would go down as the biggest rant in soccerpulse history. raw is a fucking disgrace absolute utter shite.

ECW: big thumps up from me. getting better in all areas the feuds and the wrestling. top stuff.



Survivor Series is November 26th, just over 2 weeks, I can't fucking wait man. Also another match has been added to the card, We won't see much high flying, athletic wrestling but it should be technically sound.

Team Legends (Ric Flair, Roddy Piper, Sergent Slaughter and Dusty Rhodes with Arn Anderson) vs Team Spirit Squad (Kenny, Mikey, Nicky and Johnny with Mitch) in a 4 0n 4 Survivor Series Tag match.

Arn Anderson is back, the originator of the Four Horseman, fuck yes. Also 'The American Dream' Dusty Rhodes is back, damn does that man have charisma. laugh.gif

Ad yea Sapp is one bad ass mutherfucker, he is one dude I would not mess with. Supposedly Heyman wanted to bring Sapp in earlier, so as to have him feud with Brcok. If he does indeed sign I can see him going after Mark Henry, I dunno maybe to se who is WWE's strongest, baddest wrestler.

Yea RAW wasn't too good again, I'm really dissapointed with that show, Vince needs to realise that it should be the promos and storylines that accompany the wrestling, not the other way around (imo anyway).

I agree with you on ECW as well, it definately is improving. I do feel they are currently wasting talent at the moment though, I mean they have Show, Test, RVD, Sabu, Sandman, Holly, Dreamer, Know, Punk, Balls, Thorn and Terkayand Burke, all dudes who could put on some good matches, yet they only have a 1 hour time slot. If ECW had 2 hour timr slot I garauntee it'd work out much better. Also many of the matchs are simly normal matches, there's nothing extreme or hardcore about it, unlike the old ECW. And my biggest gripe is that the show is filmee with SmackDown!, so as to save money. This is a terrible move imo, the SmackDown! fans and arenas bring nothing like the atmoshpere and tension that the old ECW did, instead of blood lusting fantical fans in HammerSmith Ballroom, we have placard waving kids in a SmackDown! arena.
pRoud Red
you will never get the atmosphere of the old ecw back because the old ecw is dead. ecw is now the third WWE brand and it is run by the mcmahons. you wont get the sick hardcore matches with all the barbed wire and flaming women and guys fallong off high balconys(supercrazy did that at the first ONS that was sick. it was a moonsault)

but you have got to make the best of it and they are doing the best they can IMO.

less hardcore but certanly good matches

BTW: i love dustys theme music
Mané Garrincha
QUOTE(pRoud Red @ Nov 9 2006, 10:03 PM) *

you will never get the atmosphere of the old ecw back because the old ecw is dead. ecw is now the third WWE brand and it is run by the mcmahons. you wont get the sick hardcore matches with all the barbed wire and flaming women and guys fallong off high balconys(supercrazy did that at the first ONS that was sick. it was a moonsault)

but you have got to make the best of it and they are doing the best they can IMO.

less hardcore but certanly good matches

BTW: i love dustys theme music



Yea Dusty's theme music is brilliant,one of the best in WWE, I freaking love it. You know Dusty is the father of Dustin Rohdes, better known as Goldust?

Still I believe ECW could be a hell of a lot better. Have the majority of the shows down south in Philly and watch the company as a whole grow. I feel the McMahons are just trying to make ECW too family friendly, not enough hardcore shit imo, the 1 hour time slot has a lo to do with it.

Arn Anderson is back though, Arn Anderson, one of the best tag team wrestlers in the industry's history. Last time I saw him was back at WrestleMania 18 (I think) when he delivereed a spinebuster to Taker.
dreamlander
QUOTE(Mané Garrincha @ Nov 9 2006, 10:29 PM) *

Yea Dusty's theme music is brilliant,one of the best in WWE, I freaking love it. You know Dusty is the father of Dustin Rohdes, better known as Goldust?

Still I believe ECW could be a hell of a lot better. Have the majority of the shows down south in Philly and watch the company as a whole grow. I feel the McMahons are just trying to make ECW too family friendly, not enough hardcore shit imo, the 1 hour time slot has a lo to do with it.

Arn Anderson is back though, Arn Anderson, one of the best tag team wrestlers in the industry's history. Last time I saw him was back at WrestleMania 18 (I think) when he delivereed a spinebuster to Taker.


Ya did anyone see the WWE special on Dusty Rhodes. It went on about how bizarre the relationship was between Dusty adn Dustin. Apparently they used play golf every week or month, like on a saturday pr something, cant remember which, but one time apparentl Dustin couldnt show up due to the girl he was with at the time being sick, and when he rang to cancel, Dusty refused to speak to him for something like 9 years. Pretty much his entire reign as Goldust.

You see that it really cut Dustin up, he's actually in bits as he recalls the story. Very interesting, but very weird as well.!!!
Matty #3
So i went to the Raw/ECW Survivor Series Tour in Newcastle tonight, and it was pretty decent i must say. Some of the matches we're boring like, as always, but overall it was a good show. It must be said that the ECW matches were the real let down. All three of them we're singles matches with no hardcore element to them what so ever. The ECW wrestlers arent good wrestlers at all really, and its the hardcore which makes them as entertaining as they can be, so basically those three matches were just boring.

The Line Up [Bold indicated winners]

DX & John Cena vs. Umage (Alejandro), Edge (Lita) & Randy Orton
- Cena pins Edge

Tommy Dreamer vs. Test
- Pinfall

Ric Flair, Roddy Piper & The Highlanders vs. The Spirit Squad (Kenny, Johnny, Nicky and Mikey, with Mitch at ringside)
- Flair pins Kenny (if i remember correctly)

Jeff Hardy vs. Johnny Nitro (Melina) vs. Carlito vs. Shelton Benjamin
- Fatal Four Way Match for the Intercontinental Title
- Nitro pins

Sabu vs. Kevin Thorn (Ariel)
- Pinfall

Mickie James & Torrie Wilson vs. Lita & Victoria
- Torrie pins Victoria

Hardcore Holly vs. Rene Dupree
- Pinfall

Cryme Tyme vs. Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch
- Pinfall


Captured about 20 minutes of footage on my phone as well. Only some of the entrances really, as i wanted to actually watch the wrestling matches rather than sit with my arm in the air looking at my phone screen. Obviously the DX entrance was mega-long as well.

Do you get knacked off the WWE for copyright or anything if you upload the videos to Youtube? Surely not, but you hear of so much shit like that these days.

Anyway i'll try and get them up. Get this new Youtube feature going.

Also, great news about Bobb Sapp. The guy is an absolute monster. Just watching some of his K1 fights makes you imagine how much you'd be shitting your pants if you were his opponent.
Carl Monday
QUOTE(Mané Garrincha @ Nov 9 2006, 02:52 PM) *

And there have been extremely strong rumours that MMA star Bob 'The Beast' Sapp is in talks with WWE. The only stumbling block appears to be Sapp's willingness to film movies (he was in Longest Yard) and contiue fighting in MMA, which WWE is against. For those of you who don't know who Sapp is, here is a pic:
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Yea that's right muthafucka' 350 pounds of pure muscle, this dude makes Lesnar, Goldberg, Batista, Lashley and Brown look small, I'm telling you this guy is huge.




If I'm at the club and he wants my drink, I'll give him my drink. If he wants my car keys, he can have my car keys. If he wants my girl, he can have my girl. Fuck that I ain't talking back to him...
pRoud Red
i have to say that this weeks tna show was brilliant. it got me really excited about the primetime show.

in only 5 mins they were able to push all the important feuds come genesis. it was very clever booking and writing. you could see flashes of brilliance form vince russo.

he turned the naturals, a tag-team that nobody really cared about anymore because they have lost credabilty(sp?), into heels and they got very interesting and very over. actually i was wishing that the naturals would turn heel and now it happened and it worked really well.

the upcoming shelley-starr feud also received a minor push.

the promos of lax and when they came into the ring was very good. they got some major heat from the fans which was very good and next week they want to burn down the american flag.brilliant. that wil make them top heels and amw will turn face.

EDIT: how could i forget, chris sabin costing aj styles the match against abyss. that was pure brilliance

awesome show. kudos to russo
AYSTER
Survivor Series is indeed shaping up nicely and it is great to see the traditonal format of the 5 on 5 elimination tag is being used on a number of matches this year. I really hope Batista doesn't become the new champ, his reign was boring in my view at least with King Booker we get a few laughs with the way he goes on, all hail King Booker! lol.
Mané Garrincha
QUOTE(AYSTER @ Nov 11 2006, 11:10 PM) *

Survivor Series is indeed shaping up nicely and it is great to see the traditonal format of the 5 on 5 elimination tag is being used on a number of matches this year. I really hope Batista doesn't become the new champ, his reign was boring in my view at least with King Booker we get a few laughs with the way he goes on, all hail King Booker! lol.


Agreed, Batista is an emtremely poor wrestler imo with a very limited moveset. Book is a brillian t wrestler and one of the most decorated athletes in the history of the sport, however the two have absolutely now in ring chemistry, hence the reason why their matches tned to e so poor. I'm guessing that the King Booker - Batista match will be the poorest on the card at Survivor Series.

Oh and I'll make anothe prediction as well, tehre's one spot left in the Extreme Elimination Chamber, open to any WWE wrestler. I predict it'll be Bobby Lashley.
Cruel Guard
Yeah SS is shaping up to be a great ppv. DX are so cool, I hope that they kick Randy Orton and Edge's asses. I'm going for Team Show in the other one thogh. Cena is a loser.

I hope Jeff performs in the match, he is a superstar!

He was my favourite and then he left and I stopped watching. Now him and Rob Van Dam are back and I've picked it up again.

Go Jeff!
AYSTER
It will be great to see the Hardyz reunited in Team DX and you have to fancy them in that match but you never know. I wonder if Cena will make anything of the whole K-Fed/ Britney divorce, I do want to know why Cena vs K-Fed is on New Years Day which is nearly two months away in Miami, Florida on which I would love to see The Rock return in his hometown, my all time fav.
Panna_King
I want to see what will happen in raw tommorow. Looking forward to survivor seroes\though biggrin.gif
pRoud Red
it is great to see that there are more wrestling fans here on SP. i am very happy about that. keep the posts coming lads cheers1.gif
Swanaldinho
QUOTE(Mattaay @ Nov 10 2006, 02:55 AM) *

So i went to the Raw/ECW Survivor Series Tour in Newcastle tonight, and it was pretty decent i must say. Some of the matches we're boring like, as always, but overall it was a good show. It must be said that the ECW matches were the real let down. All three of them we're singles matches with no hardcore element to them what so ever. The ECW wrestlers arent good wrestlers at all really, and its the hardcore which makes them as entertaining as they can be, so basically those three matches were just boring.

The Line Up [Bold indicated winners]

DX & John Cena vs. Umage (Alejandro), Edge (Lita) & Randy Orton
- Cena pins Edge

Tommy Dreamer vs. Test
- Pinfall

Ric Flair, Roddy Piper & The Highlanders vs. The Spirit Squad (Kenny, Johnny, Nicky and Mikey, with Mitch at ringside)
- Flair pins Kenny (if i remember correctly)

Jeff Hardy vs. Johnny Nitro (Melina) vs. Carlito vs. Shelton Benjamin
- Fatal Four Way Match for the Intercontinental Title
- Nitro pins

Sabu vs. Kevin Thorn (Ariel)
- Pinfall

Mickie James & Torrie Wilson vs. Lita & Victoria
- Torrie pins Victoria

Hardcore Holly vs. Rene Dupree
- Pinfall

Cryme Tyme vs. Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch
- Pinfall
Captured about 20 minutes of footage on my phone as well. Only some of the entrances really, as i wanted to actually watch the wrestling matches rather than sit with my arm in the air looking at my phone screen. Obviously the DX entrance was mega-long as well.

Do you get knacked off the WWE for copyright or anything if you upload the videos to Youtube? Surely not, but you hear of so much shit like that these days.

Anyway i'll try and get them up. Get this new Youtube feature going.

Also, great news about Bobb Sapp. The guy is an absolute monster. Just watching some of his K1 fights makes you imagine how much you'd be shitting your pants if you were his opponent.



I was there too, wasn't as good as the last few years (possibly cause i was sitting in a different area) but still a good show. The DX match was the best, followed by the intercontinental title match and the 8 man tag, all the other matches were ok apart from dreamer vs test, the match was so bad i ended up cheering the ref for counting 1,2,3 instead of either of the wrestlers the quality was so bad. All in all i enjoyed it though and i'll probably go again next time they're here, any idea when that is? Usually its the WM revenge tour but they're not coming up here for that next year sad.gif
Mané Garrincha
November 12th 2006, exactly a year to the date that Eddie sadly passe away. RIP Eddie.

Viva la Eddie.
dreamlander
QUOTE(Mané Garrincha @ Nov 13 2006, 07:43 AM) *

November 12th 2006, exactly a year to the date that Eddie sadly passe away. RIP Eddie.

Viva la Eddie.


Too true...really wish the WWE would move off that storyline though. Its cutting a bit close to the bone like!!!
pRoud Red
one of the most shocking news it was one year ago. i swear i could not beleive it and i didnt want to believe it. one of the best and hard working wrestlers we have ever seen. awesome in ring skillz a great gimmick with the mic skills and tons of charisma. he was brillant as heel or face. but besides that he was a great human beeing. no wrestler ever spoke badly about him and he loved his family.

may he R.I.P. but to do that, the wwe should stop the eddie gurrero angles.

now eddie is putting in one hell of a 6 star match with owen up in heaven. i just wish i could see that

thank you eddie
Mané Garrincha
I heard a rumour that Mane Garrincha is the best predictor in the history of predicting. bigsmile.gif

You know the other day when I said I could see Lashley in ECW and as the sixth man in the Extreme Elimination Chamber? Well it's happening, on today's ECW Bobby Lashley will be named ECW's newest wrestler an d sign an ECW contract (in kayfabe), he will then be named the sixth man.
pRoud Red
yap. you got your predictions right mate.

i think that ecw has now a very complete roster. they have wrestlers with different styles. but they could add some charisma in there.

i have to say that ecw was great again, and i cant see any dip in quality from there shows in the near future.

i am wondering what other matches will be scheduled for december to dismember. i mean the big draws are all in the chamber and there arent any other feuds going on.

there is mike knox, matt striker, the sandman, tommy dreamer, balls, thorne, daivari, burke and terkay. they really should start some feuds and promote them good.

hey mane what do you think of orton and edge becoming the tag team champs? good or bad move? will it push the tag division?

AYSTER
I thought RAW this week was fantastic. The bounty on DX was hilarious viewing all night. I particulary liked when they were in the crowd during Lita's match, Shawn was getting all into it and the chants they were started up was hilarious also. The Cryme Tyme bit with them in which they got the tickets was hilarious as well, Shawn talking to Cryme Tyme in their style and HHH trying it at the end to no effect, classic. I like that Edge and Orton now have the titles, gives it more credibilty now and I cannot wait for Survivor Series.
pRoud Red
the primetime show was very good IMO but could have been way better.

first of all i have to say that i find the voodoo kid mafia pretty lame. it could turn out to something funny though i dont know.

it is a typical russo worked shoot, another typical russo booking was that the x div title changed once again. i think that the title could lose its credibilty(sp?) but i cant deny that i completely marked out when chris daniels won the title because i am qiute a daniels mark.

the first promo with lax and amw storming into the ring was good because it build up there match as genesis. i think this feud has enormous potential.

but one thing i could not understand was that petey williams was actually the one who stopped lax from burning dow the american flag.wtf?.
tna just wanted to turn petey face and i think it was a good move because his heel gimmick has become stale.

i was bit dissapointed with the tables match.

the x division title match was very good IMO but i think that christian cage crawling half-dead into the ring and saying he is the real nr.1 contender and than getting beat up by styles was weird and pointless.

the steel cage match was brilliant. easily match of the month.
great booking in the end. cage won the match and protected his undefeated streak while rhino despied losing looked very strong.
wow. the way rhino gored him through the cage was awesome.

the main event was a pretty decent match. kurt angle is without a doubt the most over guy in the company. he received big pops from the crowd allthrough the match.
the finish and the ending to the show was sheer brilliance. despite taping out prior to his world title match, abyss looked very strong by beating down kurt angle and torturing sting at the end.
also samoa joe beating up kurt angle and make him bleed was good to it makes him even stronger than he already is going into genesis

some other news monty brown has signed with wwe.
i am really excited about it. i cant wait to see him in action

and the rumours say that senshi is going to join the lax.
i am all for this move. i wanna see the gringo killa/warriors way combo

Mané Garrincha
Yep WWE has indeed signed Monty Brwon, rumour has it that he'll be drafted to SmackDown1, I have no clue who he'll feud with though.

On the same note, it is expected that 2 Cold Scorpio, recently resigned by the WWE, will also be drafted to SmackDown!. I 've watched a few of Scorpio's most recent matchs on the independent circuit and he still looks extremely good. He could still put on some great matches tih SmackDown!s cruiserweights imo.

Fom one cruiserweight to another, Rey Mysterio recently has surgery on his knee, he is expected to return around February - May time. Seeing as Rey Rey can't return to SmackDown! (in kayfabe at least) where do you guys reckon he'll be drafted to next? My guess would be to ECW, I mean ECW was the first ptomotion Rey went to in America, so it would make sense.

Also, news on another Mexican wrestler to another. Rey's great rival, Psicosis has been released from the company after he was arrested for possesion of a gun. It was later found that this gun was a water gun, however he also supposedly hit a few cars. I find this a great shame, Psicosis was never really used properly in WWE, he's had some great matches with Rey in the past and i wish they'd have given him a chance to spread his wings.

About the whole Orton - Edge thing, I think its a good move, to an extent. Like AYSTER said, having Orton and Edge as the Tag Team champions give the belt some credibility. However since they are in a feud with DX, I can see them (Orton and Edge) losing the belts to Michaels and HHH. I would be strongly against this move, you said it yourself not so long ago, whoever goes up against DX (HHH in particular) is made to look weak. If DX win the tag titles (and it isn't too unrealistic) then I assume they'd pretty much squash the entire division, which would demean the division entirely once again.

Also regarding ECW's December to Dismember. So far the only match offically booked is the Elimination Chamber, due to ECW's 1 hour timeslot you can't really have too many feuds going on, especially with such a big main event, containg so many wrestlers. If ECW wants to be a huge success, then imo it has to get a 2 hour time slot. I know it would cost a lot but it'd defiantely be worth it imo. I'd also like to see more belts introduced, possibly a tag team belt and definately a Television Championship. In the old ECW the Television Championship was arguably as big and important as the ECW World Title, due to the wrestlers going after it and the quality of the matches. Because it requires it's holder to defend the title on every televised show, the Television Championship can do wonders for a youngsters career. Just look what it did to RVD, I can imagine the same thing happening to someone like CM Punk. Put the Television Championship on him and have him defend it every week. The matchs will be brilliant and his career will skyrocket. It'll also help put over his opponents as well, as they'd be getting a lot of TV time and could potentially be involved in some very good matches.

BTW I searched for the Human Tornado (one of my favourite indy wrestlers) on Youtube and found these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T050N6yx8M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ3s82UiZnk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z17NzdoFrQo...ted&search=
Mané Garrincha
Heres the official poster for Armageddon, as you can see it implies that Batista is definately in the main event.

IPB Image



On that note, I was thinking of an ending for the upcoming Batista - King Booker match at Survivor Series. Batista is beating down Book in the middle of the ring, 'Queen' Sharmell goes to interfere only to be stopped by the ref. Batista hits the Spinebuster on Booker only for a debuting Monty Brown to run in out of no where and hit Batista with the Pounce. The ref turns around to see Booker ontop of Batista and counts the 1,2,3. This could then lead on to a short feud between Brown and Batista, which would give us a change from the Booker - Batista matches which while being fairly entertaining and exciting, have been quite poor quality.

POOOOOOOOUUUUUNNNNNCCCCEEEE .... Period laugh.gif


BTW for you MMA fans out there, today is the date of UFC 65, where veteran Matt Hughes, an accomplished wrestler and master of takedowns, take on Georges Sant Pierre, one of the best stand up guys in his weight class. I'm hoping for and expecting a Matt Hughes win. I have nothing against Saint Pierre, infact I like him a lot, I just love Hughes' style.
Kippax Street ™
Not watched wrestling for ages, but the small bit of the Cena/Umaga match that was on was of the poorest quality i have ever seen. A five year old could of choreagraphed (sp?) it better. And I'm sick of seeing Cena win
EVERY match the same way everytime ranting.gif
Mané Garrincha
QUOTE(M.C.F.C Paddy @ Nov 19 2006, 03:42 PM) *

Not watched wrestling for ages, but the small bit of the Cena/Umaga match that was on was of the poorest quality i have ever seen. A five year old could of choreagraphed (sp?) it better. And I'm sick of seeing Cena win
EVERY match the same way everytime ranting.gif


I agree, imo he is a modern day Hogan. He comes out, gets the crap kicked out of him, then out of no where hits the 'Five Knuckle Shuffle', followed by the F U and finally the STFU. Hogan would get the crap kicked out of him, Hulk Up and then drop the big leg drop. Both have limited wrestling ability as well. See the similarities? smile.gif

BTW regarding MMA, Georges Saint Pierre beat Matt Hughes, he beat him by some way as wel, Saint Pierre made Hughes look amatuer.
pRoud Red
to the rey mysterio subject, i have to say that i could see him in ecw because they are losing star power like the big show big show. but in my eyes rey mysterio is just smackdow through and through he loves that place.

i love the build up of the matches at survivor series. they have really great stories behind the matches IMO and i think with kennedy vs the undertaker we have a lttle peach of a feud.

but i have a gut feeling that the days as champion for the king are over. and batista will win at survivor series.
the two most prestigious(sp?) title in the wwe are then held by the two anti-wrestlers in batista and cena.
but its like this it is the drawing-ability that makes you the champion not the wrestling ability.unfortunately. some how batista is charismatic and totally over with the fans.

smackdowns show was quality again. that street fight was very good as was the main event.
Mané Garrincha
QUOTE(pRoud Red @ Nov 19 2006, 05:20 PM) *

to the rey mysterio subject, i have to say that i could see him in ecw because they are losing star power like the big show big show. but in my eyes rey mysterio is just smackdow through and through he loves that place.

i love the build up of the matches at survivor series. they have really great stories behind the matches IMO and i think with kennedy vs the undertaker we have a lttle peach of a feud.

but i have a gut feeling that the days as champion for the king are over. and batista will win at survivor series.
the two most prestigious(sp?) title in the wwe are then held by the two anti-wrestlers in batista and cena.
but its like this it is the drawing-ability that makes you the champion not the wrestling ability.unfortunately. some how batista is charismatic and totally over with the fans.

smackdowns show was quality again. that street fight was very good as was the main event.


I agree about Rey, it would be hard to imagine him anywhere else other than SmackDown!, I suppose the WWE will run an angle where he manages to win back his place on SmackDown!, I wouldn't mind seeing him on ECW though, I loved his match against Sabu at and I ca see him putting on similar matches in the new ECW.

Regarding Taker - Kennedy, it reminds me off the Taker - Orton feud last year. As you may remember that culminated in a Hell in a Cell match between the two, I'd love for the same to happen again, that'd do wonders for Kenney'd career imo, even if he lost.

Taker and Kennedy's First Blood match at Survivor Series will be brilliant imo, but Chavo and Benoit will definately have the night's best match in my honest opinion.

Survivor Series looks brilliant, but I am greatly dissapointed that Regal and London and Kendrick aren't wrestling, I'd have loved to have seen them implemented into a Survivor Serie Tag Team match somehow.
h o t s p u r
hey, i don't watch the wrestling that much but i just wanted to ask what has happened to the great khali? the last time i saw him was when the undertaker beat him in the last man standing match. has he been on smackdown since?
Mané Garrincha
QUOTE(h o t s p u r @ Nov 19 2006, 08:10 PM) *

hey, i don't watch the wrestling that much but i just wanted to ask what has happened to the great khali? the last time i saw him was when the undertaker beat him in the last man standing match. has he been on smackdown since?



After the match Khali took some time off to have surgery on both knees.He has since returned but this time in ECW where he acts as a cornerman for Daivari, he will more than likely start wrestling again around February - March time, though I really hope he doesn't, that dude has little in ring talent. He's good for the shock factor but thats it really.

BTW in regards to Bob Sapp, I just found this while searching for the man known as 'The Beast'.

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Motherfucken powerbomb laugh.gif
h o t s p u r
thanks for the update thumbsup.gif

also i was wondering, is the unmasked kane the same guy as the masked kane because there body shape looks different dry.gif
Mané Garrincha
QUOTE(h o t s p u r @ Nov 19 2006, 08:52 PM) *

thanks for the update thumbsup.gif

also i was wondering, is the unmasked kane the same guy as the masked kane because there body shape looks different dry.gif


There have been rumours going on for some time that Glen Jacobs, the person who pllays Kane is not the same person who played the masked Kane. Personally I believe he is. There were strong rumours that Glen Jacobs took over from an unkown actor around 2003 (at the time of his unmasking) as the other guy was leaving the company. Like I said I don't believe it but it is feisable.
Mané Garrincha
Wow Angle made Joe tap, that surprised the shit out of me. It was a decent match though, but it didn't meet expectations. I was extremely dissapointed that Samoa Joe, arguably TNA's top guy lost his undefeated streak in around 13 minutes. Oh well.

Also Abyss is the new NWA Champion.
pRoud Red
my toughts on raw: this weeks show was an improvement with a sick ladder match. i am not a big fan of jeff hardy as i think he has got very little wrestling ability and mic skillz. but if you give this man a ladder he will tear the house down.

litas little speech was great. she spoke right from the heart and you could feel that she was really upset about getting booed. and i agree with everything she said and it will be a sad moment when she retires.

Vince Russo is back ladies and gentlemen.

7 title changes within a month. 100 heel and face turns within a month.

genesis was a very good PPV wrestling-wise but some of the booking was questionable.

the x-division match was great and the ending was too.

aj styles vs CC brilliant best match of the ppv

the match for the tag titles was poor. i expected something in the Staniels vs LAX mould but i was dissapointed.

the nwa world title match was a complete joke

dream match of the decade: giventhe amount of time the two had it was a very good match but MOTY. no freaking way.

lets get to the booking:
i dont know what to think about aj turning heel. i heard he can play that cocky arrogant character very good. but wont it be too similar to sabins character? we will see

chris sabin shaking daniels hand and then giving himthe cradleshock was very good booking. also j.lynn got involved which was good to see.

lax beeing stripped of the titles. hhmmm is it a good thing when someone from tna management(in this case jim cornette) comes into the ring and says tna dont want you(LAX) as champions and the crowd iis chanting BULLSHIT.you must notice that LAX are the top heels in tna and arguably the hottest tag team in the whole industry.
but it hink this has something to do with some kind of storyline like the LAX is starting the "Americans are racists " comments and so on. maybe its just creating more heat for LAX and to put the more over.
or russo wants to give konnan a break because his hip is fucked.

as you metioned before mane Abyss is the new champion. and i am happy because this guy deserves it. but doesnt sting deserve a longer title run too? he is an icon he chased the title for 6 or 7 months or so? i think its okay that abyss is champion but the way he won it was idiotic. abyss looked so weak its unreal.

kurt angle vs samoa joe. the only ones who were dissapointed from the a match are the people who thought they were going to see the greatest match ever on PPV.
samoa joe tapoing after just 13 mins is ridculous.but i am happy that he lost his winning streak.
funny fact or not so funny:in kurt angles first match he made abyss the current nwa world champion and tna homegrown talent tap out.
in his second match he broke samoa joes, one of the biggest talents and tnas homegrown talent, 18 month winning streak via submission. i think this lets room for some discussion.
but nobody in the world could have booked the match better. kurt angle seemingly turning heel is the best thing in the world . the heel caracter of kurt angle is gold. the ending of the match was quality.

my brother thinks that vince russo is the worst booker ever. he thinks his booking makes absolute no sense and i agree with him in some parts.

but in the end of the day we have to wait how all the feuds, the turns, the title cahnges will turn out. i give russo 2 months time to prove that he can take tna to another level.

but to be honest with you, before russo came to tna the impact shows were boring as hell. even worse than raw. but the last two impact shows under the guidance of russo were pure entertainment.
his ideas may be controversial but it leaves you with excitment to see what will be going on on impact.

What will happen next? what has angle got to say? where will the whole raven and his flock thing end? what will happen with styles/daniels/cage/sabin/lynn? how will sting react or how will lax react?

love him or hate him but you just cant ignore him or his decisions. Vince Russo is back
Mané Garrincha
SamckDown! spoilers:


MVP def Kane in a Steel Cage Match: Kane doinated the majority of the match, the ending saw the two battle it our on the top rope before MVP low blowed Kane allowing him to escape.

Gregory Helms def Jimmy ang Yang: Another good match from the two cruiserweights as you would expect.

Vickie Guerrero confronted Benoit backstage, asking him why he had contacted her lawyer, Benoit said he knew Chavo and Vickie were up to something in regards to Eddie's estate, Vickie went to slap Benoit but he grabbed her arm stopping her.

MVP was seen recuperating and recovering backstage when Kennedy confronted him. He apologised for throwing him to Taker and Kane last week and said that this week (this week beingThanksGiving in the USA) was all about being thankful and that he was going to tell the Undertaker how thankful he was.

Backstage Book approached Teddy Long and brought with him a contract stating that if he defeated Batista at Survivor Series, The Animal would not get another shot at the World Heavyweight Championship.

William Regal def Brian Kendrick: Another good win for Regal as his push continues. In typical Regal style it was hard hitting, technical, in your face, smash mouth stuff.

Kennedy cut a long promo regarding the Undertaker. Taker then appeared and using his 'Super natural' powers made blood fall from the ceiling onto Kennedy.

Finlay def Chris Benoit: Another great match from Benoit, he really looks to have no ring rust after his recent 5 month absence. Finlay won after Chavo and Vickie came out and distracted the Crippler. Afterwards Chavo hit Benoit with several Frog Splashes.

Boogeyman def Miz: Miz walked out on the match, Boogeyman then filled the referee's face with worms.

Booker cut a promo in ring with regards to his match against Batista at Survivor Series and the contractual agreement he had drawn up for him. Batista came out, signed the agreement only for Book to knock him out using the Royal Scepter.



BTW look at this, the Ric Flair 'Custom Made' song, friggin hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1LcJ6N9vwo

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Mané Garrincha
Just some news regarding the WWE, Tough Enough winner Daniel Rodimer is set to be given his WWE debut around January next year, he stands 6 foot 7 and weighs in at nearly 300 pounds. There are rumours he will be partnered with Tough Enough 4 winner Ryan Reeves, who weighs 285 - 295 pounds standing 6 foot 2. Top advisors at the WWE recommend that Rodimer make his debut in January 2008 as he is not ready, however Stephanie McMahon beleives Rodimer has the look and physique to be a star.

TBH I get rather tired of these huge dudes, I mean bodybuilding/weightlifting along with wrestling is a passion of mine, but there are too many 280 + pounders around. Currently we have Batista, Lashley and Masters, Monty Brown is aorund that sizre as well and if Reeves and Rodimer debut we will have yet more. Personally I believe WWE has to step away from this 'look' theres only so many powerslams and spinebusters people can take. WWE needs someone who is smaller than these guys, but bigger than a Cruiserweight, someone like HBK or Bret. Angle and Benoit also come to mind.
Rodimer is supposedly very charismatic though, if that counts for anything.


Also here is the poster for New Yeear's Revoloution:


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This Monday Night RAW, ECW's Sabu was involved in a squash match with Umaga, if you was wondering why this is, it was a punishment. Supposedly Sabu was seen sleeping backstage and turning up late for shows, the loss to Umaga was a punishment for this behaviour.

This is some big news imo, alegedly colour commentator JBL is planning an in ring return for early 2007. IMO JBL is one of the greaetest heels of the last decades, his promo's were absolutely brilliant, his wrestling skills wernt too bad either.



And finally, this isn't news, more of an open question. The year is quickley coming to a close, with only December left. That means it will soon be time for the WWE's match of the year to be announced. What matches have impressed you guys the most, I'll give a few of my favourite WWE matchesthat have taken place this year, I'll try and add a few TNA ones later on as well.

1) Kurt Angle vs The Undertaker - No Way Out - Absolutely brilliant match whichever way you look at it, Taker showed that he was still able to get down and grapple with thhe best of them. Some great brwaling, great power moves and great technical wrestling from the two of them. A fantastic, if controversial finish as well. Therre rematch on SmackDown! was also brilliant imo.

2) Kurt Angle vs Randy Orton vs Rey Mysterio - Wrestlemania 22 - I'm not a great fan of Orton, but at Wrestemania he, along with Rey and Kurt put on a fantastic match. Some great spots and very good pure wrestling.

3) John Cena vs Edge - Unforgiven - You'll know by know, I really don't like Cena as a wrestler, but at Unforgiven he put on a very good TLC match, all credit to Edge as well, he played his part superbly, some unbelievable spots especially the last one, the F - U of the ladder. I have a new found respect for Cena after this match.

4) Chris Benoit vs William Regal - No Mercy - Brillian smash mouth, technical, in your face wrestling. Benoit showed no ring rust whatsoever and put on a brilliant match.

5) Chris Benoit vs Finlay - Judgement Day - Similar to their earlier match on a SmackDown! episode only a few weeks before, and Benoit's match with Regal, this was a typically rough match between the two. No real spots that stood out but that's the beauty of it, it doesn't need chair shots or people going through tables to be brillaint, the quality of the pure wrestling makes it that good. They put on another great match on this week's SmackDown!

6) Money in the Bank Ladder match - Wrestlemania 22 - Shelton again stole the show in this one. Magnificent spots, the actual wrestling was very good as well, some of the shit that happened in this match was unbelievable.

7) Elimination Cage - New Year's Revoloution - Very good match, every Elimination Chamber match thus far has been extremely impressive imo, every wrestler played a big part imo, even if they were eliminated within a few minutes. Them Elimination Chamber is a spectacle and this one did not dissapoint.

8) Foley vs Edge - Wrestlemania 22 - Wrestlemania 22 was a very good show imo and this waas one of the night's best matches. Nothing short of hardcore, the flaming table at the end was superb.

9) DX vs McMahons and Bi Show - Unforgiven - The new cell was very impressive, the wrestling between the two teams was very good, but nothing spectacular. Though the atmosphere, tension and general feeling of the match made it a very good one imo. I found the ending slightly funny, though I though it was a cheap attempt at humour, I liked the match overall though and thought it was, along with the TLC match, RAW's best in a long time.

10) Matt Hadry vs Gregory Helms - No Mercy - Another great match from SmackDown!, really impressive stuff from the two rivals, No Mercy was a great success imo, both men put a lot into the match and it showed as it was one of the best of the night imo (that's saying something as I thought No Mercy was one of the best ppvs of the year).

There are many more matches that I have either forgot or can't be bothered to remember, as much a I criticise WWE for their lack of actual wrestling, some of the superstars can put on some grade A matches. I expect some great matches tomorrow at Survivor Series, December to Dismember and rmageddon should be good as well.

BTW seeing as Survivor Seires is so close, I thought we might as well try and get some predicitons in, here's mine.

Match Predicted winner

Team DX vs Team Rated RKO - Team DX

Team Cnea vs Team Show - Team Show

Team Legends vs Team Squad - Team Legends

Benoit vs Chavo - Chavo

Undertaker vs Kennedy - Taker

Lita vs Mickie James - Lita

Booker vs Batista - Batista



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Well, i'm gonna miss Survivor Series due to it being on crappy pay per view and while i like wrsetling, its not worth paying the bones 30 euros to watch it IMO.

Anyways, my predictions are

Match Predicted winner

Team DX vs Team Rated RKO - Team DX

Team Cena vs Team Show - Team Cena

Team Legends vs Team Squad - Team Legends

Benoit vs Chavo - Chavo

Undertaker vs Kennedy - Kennedy

Lita vs Mickie James - Lita

Booker vs Batista - Booker
Mané Garrincha
I just watched WWE Heat, it was pretty good actually, both Shelton and Haas wrestled albeit in different matches, the two of them looked very good though, I'llpost an overview of the show.

The Highlanders def Murdoch and Cade - A decent match, became very physical at times, some great teamwork on show though, Highlanders won after Rory pinned Cade with a roll up.

Shelton def Supercrazy - An excellent match, some decent spots and quite a lot of high flying going on, Shelton won after two T Bone Suplexes. Very, very good match.

Haas def random jobber (can't remember his name) - A good match, wasn't a squash as expected as the jobber put up a good fight. Haas won by forcing his opponent to submit using the 'Haas of Pain'. Haas hit a good German Suplex and a superb Dragon Suplex during the match.

Hacksaw Jim Duggan def Rob Conway - Duggan got a huge reaction, seriously this crowd was going wild for Duggan's 'Ho' and 'USA' chants, Duggan won after his 'Three Stance Clothesline'. Bith men put on a decent match, even Duggan who tbh isn't the greatest wrestler.

Also in some TNA news. During his stint with ECW , Kurt Angle was an 'agent', basically meaning he would have a say in other wrestler's matches and try to give them pointers and help. He has been doing so in TNA, helping both the younger talent and the veterans with their matches. The younger wrestlers are understandably happy at recieving guidance from Kurt Angle, one of the all time greatest technical wrestlers. But some of the vets, namely Jeff Jarrett, are getting pissed off at Angle's antics. It has been predicted that a power strugglecould become of this.

Oh yea, the SmackDown! Wrestlemania Revenge Tour comes to Earl's Court on April 24 next year, I may go as Earl's Court isn't too far from me.

Some more news on TNA 'Problem Solver' Tyson Tomko has been signed by the promotion. He is expected to once again be partnered with Christian Cage.

And finally, yesterday I reported that Daniel Rodimer may be teamed up with Ryan Reeves, well new reports are indicating that he will not, instead he is set to be given a huge push starting from January, similar to Lesnar's push. This Rodimer is siad to be huge though, bigger than Goldberg, bigger than Batista, bigger than Brown, bigger even than Lashley and Lesnar. The only guy who could potentially be in WWE who would be bigger than Rodimer would be Sapp, but Sapp is one of the biggest guys on thee planet. Only the elite of bodybuilders, like Ronnie Coleman, are bigger than him, and that's saying something.

For those of you who don't know who Ronnie Coleman is, here is a pic, he is arguably the biggest guy (in terms of muscle) in the world.

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I was watching 'WFWWF' (or whatever its called now) as there was nothing on the TV this morning. I have to say I was quite shocked to see some beefcake stuffing worms into the refs mouth....?

Whats all that about?
Mané Garrincha
That dude you saw MU_1999 was The Boogeyman, part of his gimmick is putting worm's in his opponenet's mouths, I don't mind his gimmick but the dude cannot wrestle at all.

Anyone watch Survivor Series, one of WWE's best ppv's of the year imo, I'll post more on that later when I have time.

Also December to Dismember just got a whole lot better, not only do we have the Extreme Elimination Chamber, but the Hardyz will be going up agains ar reformed MNM, it should be a great match, even better if there is a hardcore element to it.

And reading through somre rumours here, you know earlier I said that Batista will face Taker at Wrestlemania (I said this a few months ago now), well it has ben rumiured that the match has already been booked in what will be a Title vs Winning Streak' match. So far, and it pains me to say this, but Batista is booked to win. Of course these are all rumours and they are subject to change, but I would feel so disgusted if Taker lost his winning streak to someone like Batista. Kane, Angle or Benoit I wouldn't mind so much, I also wouldn't have been that bothered if Taker had lost his streak to Lesnar, but Batista? omone who is in his late thirties (not exactly the future) and who has no basic wrestling skills? It's a joke imo.
     
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