yap the hulkster really wants to come back full time. now with the nwo and dx wwe will draw some ratings.

i really want to see angle back but in 6 months or so, he needs a proper rest. and then he could wrestle wrestle full time for tna again as you said tna's schedule will come him good and he can stay with his family because the show is only in orlando.

i think in the next couple of weeks they will show some promos of him and he probably will have his first match at bound for glory wich is next month ´

just watched RAW.

erich bischoff was there talking about vinni mac and dx and most importantly nWo. its getting serious now.

you cannot believe how much i enjoyed watching cena kiss bookers royal feet

See the lyrics in my sig, underneath Treat Your Mother Right? That's Boschoff's music, best General Manager ever. Ha did you ssee on RAW where the power went out for like 10 minutes, I found that pretty funny.

Oh yea btw some of you may not have heard this, WWE has officially signed 2 Cold Scorpio on a 3 year deal. Scorpio was one of the best high flyers of the 90's and one of my favourite WCW wrestler. I am not 100% on this, but I am pretty confident in saying that he is the first professional wrestler to use to 450 Splash consistently, a great addition imo. I wolud love to see him feud with CM Punk.

On that note did anyone see Punk's match with Shannon Moore? It was pretty crap but I assure you this, put Punk in the ring with anyone with an ounce of wrestling talent and he'll put on a great match, I'd love to see a Punk - Benjamin - Carlito match, a Punk - Benoit match would be awesome too.

Annd has anyone read Kurt Angle's comments since moving to TNA? Disgraceful, that's all I can say. He was talking crap like 'WWE held me bacl' or 'in TNA I've found my home' (I'm paraphrasing here). I'd like to ask how WWE held him back, was it that they booked him wrong? No, he was booked near perfectly imo. Was it that they didn't give him enough titles or mic time? I doubt it as he is a 5 time WWE Champion and gave some great promos. Or was it because he was put in matches with people with little or no talent? Definately not, he wrestled with the likes of Benoit, Taker, HHH, Michaels, Austin, Rock, Benjamin, RVD, hardly poor opposition. I have sooo much respect for Angle, but I lost enormous amounts of that respect when I read that today.

I also cant understand his statements. i think kurt said those things because vince put him in ecw and he hated it there. he wanted to hedline ppv's and compete for the title. thats the only reason i see for him saying these things because like you said his career was top. he was a wcw world heavyweight champ a 4-time wwe champ and wwe world heavyweight champ in. yap thats hardly holding him back.

Honestly I havent expected such statements fom kurt

but he stil is my fave wrestler.

LOL Ive never realized that the text under your sig are the lyrics of erics song.
yes that was funny when the lights went out. you just dont expect such things to happen in wwe


i hope my english is understandable. i would love to write long and structured posts because i love talking about wrestling(and football) but my english does not allow that

I still have great respect for Kurt and he is still one of my favourite wrestlers, I really dislike his statement though. But he is without a doubt one of the greatest mat/technical wrestlers in American wrestling history. I'd say only Chris Benoit is a better technical wrestler in the US, shame he sucks on the mic though. I'll tell you what I will always respect Angle for though, his ability to never give in. In his last match against RVD, he picked up three different injuries that individually would have taken a lesser man down, but he carried on and put on a great match. However that is the sort of attitude that may end up being his undoing, he should have taken a long break from wrestling, unfourtunately his 'never say die' attitude has pushed him back into a ring within only a month.


Yea I thought it was hilarious when the lights went out, perhapts it was all a plot by TNA Or perhaps Taker had arrived on RAW

And don''t worry about your English man, from what I've read it seems perfect.

one question, do you know if nash is still contracted to tna. i think he is and that would mean that the nWo could come back together (at least not in their full line-up). But what would the nWo be without big sexy kevin nash

offtopic: oh boy united is playing shite absolutely pathetic.

I think Nash is contracted until October, either that or he has a no compete clause that runs until October, similar to the one Angle was rumoured to have. From what I hear and see he's not doing much in TNA, bar destroying the X Division and occasionally wrestling he is pretty much inactive. That's a shame imo, Nash may not be the best technical wrsetler but he is still very good in the ring and has fuckloads of charisma. I would so love to see an nWo (Hogan, Hall, Nash Bischoff) DX (HBK, HHH, X Pac) feud. The matches should be good, the promos will be excellent and the general animosity and tension will be nothing short of fantastic.

I ddin't see the United game, I heard they won 1 - 0 though, I was too busy watching Madrid destroy Kiev 5 - 1

i read in some website that wwe doesnt have any further plans for eric bischoff. i hope thats not true . maybe he just appeared on raw to promote his book. i guess we will have to just wait and see


oh BTW heres a youtube-link of the crowd reactions when they showed the kurt angle clip live at no surrender
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFQh-XMbILA

Just browsing on Youtube, i came across this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68EOWuVRtfg...ted&search=

The video of Kurt Angle winning Olympic Gold in 1996. I personally thought it was a good watch, so i thought i'd share.

Also, ive edited the title of this topic, so its just a general wrestling thread, so theres no need to start a new one.

Whoa, i totally missed Kurt joining TNA. Thats a bit of a shock and a spit in the face (of people who dont wanna be cool) or more precisely of the WWE fans and Vincent McMahon surely. Claiming he wanted time out because of injury and then about, what/ a month later showing up on the next biggest wrestling entertainment show. I think thast pretty low!

I don't think Kurt asked for his release, his body is a complete mess but with his mentality he will just keep going. It's foolhardy if anything. I've heard rumours he was fired because he refused to take time out and check into rehab (for his painkiller addisciton) and the only way WWE could stop him fucking up his body even more was to fire him.

The positives are that he will wokr much less than in WWE, however the TNA stars generally tend to wrestle stiff (as in no bends in their legs when the kick etc) which is a huge hazard to a healthy person let alone a run down one like Kurt. Also his contract is not fully binding and so allows him to wrestle for various independent promotions as well as fight in MMA or K1 (which he is very keen on supposedly). I have a ton of respect for Angle and I hate to say this, but if he keeps up likes he was and is rumoured to do so, his body may just fail on him.

heres an article on kurt angle

World Wrestling Entertainment fired Kurt Angle because he had drug issues. I don’t think some people understand the gravity of that statement. This was not WWE seeing that Angle was in pretty bad shape and refusing go to rehab. This was a situation where he was not going to handle the problems and they were afraid that he was going to die, perhaps very soon, under their watch. As I wrote several weeks back when he was first fired, a number of people in WWE stated the exact same thing, that he was the worst anyone had ever seen, worse than Shawn Michaels at his peak and worse than Brian Pillman (who died due to his issues). Angle’s behavior in the final weeks prior to his firing was said to be incredibly worrisome, from dozens and dozens of text messages sent to creative every day to major paranoia to massive mood swings backstage. WWE at one point had to hire handlers to get him to buildings since he was unable to do so on his own. There were people who looked the other way for awhile since as bad as he was outside the ring he was fine once the bell rang. But then, during an ECW show, he dropped RVD on his head and nearly hurt him seriously. There were times when he had to be taken through airports in a wheelchair. And two separate WWE sources stated very explicitly that their belief was that he had serious mental health issues. Everything finally came to a head in that Friday afternoon meeting four weeks ago, and WWE fired him.

Yes, in TNA he won’t have real fights. But if anyone thinks he’s going to go out there and do 1-minute squash matches two times a month and one slightly longer but fairly low-impact match on a PPV, you know nothing about this Kurt Angle. The one I kept hearing was that Angle has a bad neck and could be killed in an MMA match. The problem with this argument is that WWE didn’t fire Angle because of concern that he would die in a ring due to his physical injuries (after all, he’s had serious physical injuries since 1996, and while they are worse now, it’s hard get significantly worse than two cracked vertebrae, two herniated discs and four pulled neck muscles). The fear was that he would die DUE TO DRUG ISSUES, and he’s going from a company with a decently-enforced drug policy to a company with no policy whatsoever and a reputation for being the worst drug haven since ECW in its heyday. And the reality is that from a physical punishment standpoint, yes, TNA is better with three dates per month, but for a person with drug problems, the schedule is arguably WORSE than in WWE. During PPV weekends in TNA, the guys are flown to Orlando on Saturday or Sunday and stay there until Tuesday. It’s two to three days in the same city with the same guys, all of whom have a much later call time than in WWE (in WWE you have to be at the building at noon or 1:00 PM; in TNA it’s much later). Aside from the ten hours or so at the Impact Zone, the guys have nothing to do for the remaining 38 to 62 hours (more on PPV weekends, less on regular TV taping weekends), and that’s one of the main reasons the company has built up the drug reputation it has.

People can say that everyone is responsible for their own behavior, and I largely agree with that, but Kurt Angle is a different sort of human being with a very unique sort of drive and dedication, and, if you believe the WWE sources, perhaps an inability due to mental issues to do what is best for himself. To me, sometimes you have to do your part. I realize that in this business things like this will never happen (and, quite frankly, the TNA signing of Kurt still surprised and saddened me), but this is a situation where I believe the right thing to do would have been for nobody to give Kurt Angle a job. Instead, nearly everyone you can imagine was clamoring for him within hours and in some cases minutes of WWE.com announcing that he was gone. That’s the wrestling business.


source: "Figure Four Weekly"-Newsletter

I said in my previous post that Angle is foolhardy, well this is plain idiotic. Supposedly Kurt is in negotiations with K1 Heros, to fight around December time. The scheduled fight is the 31st December at K1 Dynamite at the Oska Dome event. For those who don't no, K1 Heroes is similar to MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) and UFC, if the stiff kicks Angle will recieve in TNA are bad enough, the punishment he will face in K1 Heroes will be ten times worse. Coincidentally Brock Lesnar is also in K1 Heroes and is scheduled to figth around October time, he is currently being trained by the legendary Royce Gracie (motherfucken Brasilian ). See this is the difference, I have no problem with Brock fighting in these sorts of conditions, he is young and is at the peal of his pyhsical performance. Also his body and mental state is not half as bad as Angle's is speculated to be.

heres another article from tnawrestling.com regarding kurt angle(who else)tnas drug policy, bill goldberg and more


AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH TNA PRESIDENT DIXIE CARTER – PART 1

In a rare interview, TNA Wrestling President Dixie Carter on Thursday (Sept. 28, 2006), spoke openly with Ross Forman who has covered pro wrestling for 15 years. Dixie was quite candid, addressing Kurt Angle’s signing, drug use in pro wrestling, TNA’s move to prime-time (Thursdays, 9 p.m. ET/PT, SpikeTV) and even Bill Goldberg.

By Ross Forman

The signing of Kurt Angle by TNA Wrestling will go down as the most pivotal move in the history of the Nashville-based company.

Angle’s long-term contract with TNA is a landmark moment, one that changed the landscape of pro wrestling as we know it. Angle’s acquisition by TNA ranks right there with what the New World Order (nWo) did for World Championship Wrestling (WCW) and pro wrestling in 1996.

Clearly, TNA’s acquisition of Angle makes it easy for the folks at Pro Wrestling Illustrated when they start compiling their annual list of The 10 Biggest News Stories of 2006. This transaction will have ramifications for years to come, without a doubt.

“We’re absolutely thrilled to have signed Kurt Angle. He is a huge addition to the TNA roster,” said TNA Wrestling President Dixie Carter. “Once I knew that Kurt would be available, we immediately wanted to talk with him and, hopefully, sign him.”

The Angle announcement at the end of the No Surrender pay-per-view on Sept. 24 was one of those rare wrestling moments – a surprise announcement was hyped, the secret was actually kept and then the announcement lived up to the hype.

Carter said that, before the on-air announcement was made, there were less than 10 people in the company who know for a fact that it would be Angle. And all who had been informed about Angle were first required to sign a Confidentiality Agreement.

“Knowing how big this announcement was for TNA, I just felt it could be one of the true surprises in pro wrestling,” she said.

The Angle signing, though, came with a bit of negative feedback. Fans questioned whether it was too soon following his departure from World Wrestling Entertainment because there were questions about his health status and a rumored drug-use problem.

“Am I shocked by some of the negative response? I’m more saddened by it – for Kurt,” Carter said. “I know this has hurt him very much.

“TNA would never sign a talent, or allow a talent to be in a situation to harm themselves more than the risk each of these guys takes every time they step into the ring. I truly believe that every TNA wrestler, referee, broadcaster and front-office employee knows that their health and their family come first. TNA is their livelihood, and they are all very passionate about it, but it is still just a job.”

As far as you know, what is Kurt Angle’s current health status?

“Kurt has been cleared by his team of doctors to wrestle, and I have that verification from the doctors.”

What did TNA do to make sure that problems in Kurt’s past, including anything drug-related, have been addressed?

“I have personally met with Kurt and his wife. All past medical and pain medication issues have been addressed in depth and to my satisfaction. We have assembled a team of doctors around Kurt to monitor past injuries and also oversee his health on an ongoing basis.

“Kurt will personally address specific questions about his past, not me.”

The issue of drug use in pro wrestling has been a problem for years, with several drug-related deaths. Does that worry you?

“It’s a huge concern, of course. First, one of the benefits of working for TNA Wrestling is the schedule that our talent has, which prevents the enormous, physical strain on a body. Second, our talent does not secure their spot on our roster by the mass of their bodies. If a TNA star is injured, or has personal issues that he or she needs to address, that talent will not be put in a situation where he or she has to wrestle. The talent might still be on-air in a different capacity, but we would never do anything that could lead to further injury. If a leave-of-absence is necessary for treatment, it is an option which we have utilized in the past.”

What is the TNA Wrestling drug policy?

“TNA Wrestling has a very strict drug and alcohol policy, and each contracted talent signs an acknowledgement of the policy set forth. Drug use and alcohol abuse are issues we take very seriously. TNA has the right to conduct random drug-tests and other tests in accordance with government requirements. Violations of the policy are spelled out and failure to comply or failure of a test can result in mandatory drug counseling and treatment, suspension from work without pay, up to and including dismissal. We do not address the specifics of this policy publicly as we are a private company and our talent are independent contractors.”

The fact that you signed Kurt when there was so much discussion that he instead would be signing with an MMA company. Talk about that.

“It is true that all MMA companies have shown an interest in Kurt and, yes, Kurt does have an interest in pursuing MMA opportunities. When the MMA rumors came out recently, Kurt had already signed with TNA; however, TNA was not ready to make the announcement of his joining our company at that time.”

What do you say to everyone else in the TNA Locker Room who, perhaps rightfully so, is worried about their air-time due to Angle’s arrival?

“When a football team signs a superstar quarterback, it benefits the entire team. I’ve never made it a secret that the guys who brought us to the dance will remain a priority to this company. Kurt is well aware of that and supports this belief 100 percent.”

Who do you see as Kurt’s first opponent in TNA?

“There are a multitude of dream-matches for Angle in TNA, but, at this time, I’m not sure who will be the first to step into the ring against Angle.”

How much does Angle’s arrival impact a potential move to two hours on a regular basis?

“The deal to move to prime-time on SpikeTV was done prior to signing Kurt. One thing I think is so great about Kurt is that he wanted to be a part of TNA without even knowing that the company was moving to prime-time. He wanted to make that leap because he knew the potential was there and he wanted to be part of making it happen. That’s how much he wants to be a part of TNA.”

That said, how much will Angle’s presence affect a potential full-time, two-hour time-slot?

“To me, there’s no doubt we are going to two hours; it’s just a matter of when.”

What about Bill Goldberg?

“Bill has a lot of exciting things going on in his career right now. TNA would be the perfect place for him to continue those pursuits while stepping back in the ring to write one last chapter of a storied wrestling career. Bill is very talented and he would be another great addition to our roster.”

Part Two of Ross Forman’s exclusive interview of Dixie Carter will feature her comments about Vince Russo, Vince McMahon, TNA’s prime-time move and more – available here at TNAwrestling.com on Wednesday, Oct. 4




kurt angle will be special enforcer in the match jeff vs sting at bound for glory

i think its a good start for him because he gets rested a little bit more but that shows that he wants to be in that title hunt and will start some bigger feud angle vs sting vs jeff jarrett vs samoa joe they all are involved somehow

but i cant wait for the six sides of seel match LAX vs aj and daniels i love this feud great wrestlers great matches their attitudes towards each other its great.

Heres what wnet down at this week's SmackDown! :

Rey Mysterio & Matt Hardy vs. Chavo w/Vickie & Gregory Helms - Good match, just what you'd expect from these four cruiserweights. Mysterio and Hardy won after Rey hit a double 619 on Helms and Chavo.

Tatanka vs. Elijah Burke - Burke cut a good promo, then proceeded to beat Tatanka after interfereance from Terkay. Terkay than beat Tatanka after the match.

A backstage segment than aired. Booker demanded that Finlay roll over for him in their match tonight. Finaly reminded him - 'I'm Finlay and I love to fight'.

Booker vs. Finlay - A decent match, Sharmell grabbed Finlay's leg allowing Book to dominate. The Little Bastard then got involved and distracted Book and the ref long enough for Finlay to hit King Booker over the head with his Shillelagh.

Lashley vs. Batsita - A decent match, nothing special, match ended in a no contest when Finlay attacked Batista. Book came out and attacked Finlay allowing Lashley and Batista to go at each other.

Teddy Long then stated if the four want each other so bad, they can go at it in a fatal four way match at No mercy for the World Championship.

Booker, Finlay and Lashley were seen arguing in Long's office, Batsita than came in and said 'Hey guys ... can't we all get along' bringing a few laughs from the audience. Long than set up the show's main event, Lashley and Batista vs Finlay and Booker.

Sylvan vs. Jimmy Wang Yang - Crowd absolutely loved Yang, one of the best matches of the night, Sylvan won after using the ropes.

A platform then lowered in the ring to allow MVP to cut a promo, it was neither interesting nor did it garner a crowd reaction, seriously the dude was not over at all.

Kennedy was than seen in a dark, bleak room and cut a fantastic promo about the Undertaker and his 'shinanigens'. He then sid Taker will never forget the name Kennedy.

Ashley w/ London & Kendrick vs. Michelle McCool w/ James & Stevens - James and Stevens interfeered allowing McCool to use Ashley's tights in a roll up pin to get the win.

Batista & Lashely vs. Finlay & King Booker - A decent match, the crowd loved Batista. Match finished in a no contest when Regal involved himself, SmackDown ended with Batista and Lashley staring each other down.

This is friggin weird. Late September (around the 20th I believe) Marty Wright, aka The Boogeyman was released from the WWE for a bad attitude in his recovery from injury. However rumours are flying around that he has been re signed. Weird.

BTW for the special RAW Home Coming that is coming up, there will be a Kane - Umaga match where the loser will elave RAW. One would assume that Kane will lose only to join his brother The Undertaker, on SmackDown!. However reports are suggesting that Kane iwll lose only to take a 6 month absence and return to RAW some time next year. Also Taker will make an appearance at RAW Home Coming, his first apppearance on a RAW show for four years.

yes the thing with the boogeyman is truly weird. but i dont linke him to be honest. in the start i liked his promos but but from time to time i thought it was ridicoulus(sp?). and please lets not get started about his wrestling-skills, he does not have any.i remember that "match" against booker t at wrestlemania. what a waste of time the could have easily drop that match (and the lingerie match) and could have made the triple threat match for the world title a little bit longer.

i have also read that kane will be out for 6 months. i dont know is it because of injury? i guess so. i am also very excited about the 3 hours homecomig show. should be good.

some tna news . sting signed a new deal with tna.
bill goldberg is more likely to join tna
kevin nash has an announcement to make. i wonder what he has got to say.
i think he wants to stay with tna.So no Nash no nWo. sorry vince

Kane is retiring soon so I assume that is the reason he is leaving. I've heard Glen Jacobs (Kane) wants to retire come the end of 2007. Supposedly Undertaker asked Kane if he wanted to end his WrestleMania winning streak in his (Kane's) last ever match but Jacobs rejected the proposal.

Personally I didn't mind The Boogeyman, but imo the gimmick made the wrestler, he had limited wrestlng skills but I didn't mind him all that much.

Yea Sting has signed a new deal, I'm not that fond of him anymore, I swear he refuses to lose clean, he isn't as bad as Jarrett in that aspect but he isn't that much better. BTW I've heard that Nash's big statement is that he's signed. Also I doubt Goldberg wil join TNA, he has a lot of things oing on at the momen, which is th main reason he didn't join MMA in a fighting capacity. There is always a chance though, however I'm not a fan of Goldberg, I feel Batista is a carbon copy of him in that they are both huge guys with limited move sets and little wrestling ability or technique.

smackdowns ppv no mercy was very good. the best match IMO was matt vs helms. good pace from the beginning and a furious finish near-fall after near-fall. kendrick and london have unlmited potential and talent. they can easily become a legendary tag team for sure. i just enjoy watching them and they always do great matches.

MVP's debut WOW. just a squash match. what a ridicoulus outfit

benoits comeback was class and with william"the penis" regal he got the perfect opponent.

the main event was good too and i am happy that booker t won. he was such a great servant for wcw and wwe over the years and is a good worker. he entertained me in the last couple of months and absolutely derves to be the champ. i think it is too early for lashley to be champ and am happy that batista hasnt got the gold around his waist. although i amhappy with the king beeing champion for a bit longer my favourite was finlay. he is a great wrestler. technically good, he has got the experience and has the ability to lead the others through a match.

i am really interested in your opinions

EDIT: totally forgot aout the undertaker vs kennedy. it was a good and long match. it got better from minute to minute. but the ending of the match was so bad. i know a no disqualification win is always lame but that one just looked stupi at least thats my opinion

I too enjoyed No Mercy, though I feel the Benoit - Regal match was the best of the night. IMO 'The Crippler' is the best wrestler in the US today, he can put on a good match with anyone, I also really like Regal, he is extremely underrated imo, an Regal - Benoit feud has a lot of potential and could be great. Also I'm pleased that Finlay is getting a push, he is a very good wrestler, is good on the mic and has an excellent gimmick, he plays the heel excellently imo, I honestly would not have minded at all if he had won the main event. He and Booker were the two best options imo, Batista has benn terrible since his eturn, looking really lazy and sloppy, while Lashley has been in the businss less than a year, and tbh I feel you need to be wrestling for more than a year to be named world chapion. Booker and Finlay though are bothe excellent wresters while being strong on the mic.

London and Kendrick eh? I friggin love those two, easily the best tag team in the WWE right now, K.C James and Idol Stevens do look good though, but WWE definately neds more tag teams. The Highlaners are decent, Cryme Tyme are fucking excellent, but apart from those two and the aforementioned London and Kendrick and James and Stevens, WWE has little to offer in terms of tag team ability. I feel this could be adressed pretty easily by reuniting a few old partnerships. The Hardy Boyz would be fantastic, as would 'The World's Greatest Tag Team' (Benjamin and Haas) even the Brothers of Destruction. If those 3 tag teams were reformed we'd see an immensly improved tag team scene imo. Could you imagine that? The Hardyz, World's Greatest Tag Team, Cryme Tyme, The Highlanders, London and Kendrick, James and Stevens and The Brothers of Destruction.

Yea I too was disssapointed with the finish to Taker and Kennedy's match, I feel that has the potential to be a great feud, however Taker needs to show up more cnsistently on SmackDown! to make it work, instead of his once a month (roughly) showings.

Haha yea M.V.P's outfit was terrible, absolutely fucking terrible, it looked as though he was trying to impersonate the 'Blue Blazer'.

RAW Family Reunion is on today, I expect it will be a great show. Taker is on RAW for the first time since 2002.

yeah william regal i think is really underrated. he can do very funny promos, is good on the mic and has got some wrestling ability. good technical wrestler thats what i like.

have you watched the old matches of benoit when he was known under the name "the wild pegasus". you have to wathc his match against the grat sasuke. its from 1994 i think and it was in japan. fucking great match.

yes the tag team division has some potential. i would love to see the brother of destr. and th reunion of The WGTT and the hardy boyz. What quality matches we could probably see. i am also very excited about cryme tyme now. it seems like you rate them highl.

BTW jimmy yang is great. why does he job for sylvan, absolute bollocks

Yea Jimmy Wang Yang is the shit, I'd like to see him given a push for the Crusierweight title. Or he could feud with Jamie Noble (seeing as he has no partner since Kid Kash was released) to see who the 'true Texav redneck' is I don't like to see him jobbing to Sylvan either, but they've put on some decent matches thus far.

I haven't seen Benoit vs The Great Sasuke, I've seen some of his other matches from Japan and they were all of a very high quality. Over i Japan the matches do tend to be better in terms of technique and shit, I much prefer the WWE though.

WWE really does need to improve it's tag team division though, there is massive potential it just isn't being utilised at the moment imo. I'm pretty sure a Hardy Boyz reunion will happen some time down the line, I'm not that certain of a reunion of the WGTT though. The Brothers of Destruction will happen again though, I'm certain of that. If the do reunite though, they have to bring back Kane with the mask and bring back Taker's Lord of Darkness gimmick, that would be friggin awesome.

Onto RAW Family Reunion, a very good show imo. I liked Benjamin vs Benoit, it seems Benjamin really has improved on the mic in recent weks. The Murdoch/Cade vs DX matych was decent with some very good bumps, I was dissapointed with the RVD - Booker confrontation, RVD is a tremendous wrestler and was until recently the ECW champion, he shouldn't lose so easily imo. And I can't understand why Hardy was put against Show, they should have booked Show against someone else, Hardy is good but I would have loved to see Show vs Carlito.

Umaga - Kane was impressive, I really wanted 'The Big Red Machine' to win, even though I knew he would lose. Lashley/Batista/Mysterio vs Chavo/Finlay/Regal was very good imo, I thought Mysterio executed that frogsplash pretty well. Ha Fliar's match was crap, mainly because Mitch has little wrestling skill at all, I liked it when Piper, DiBiase, Schster and Anderson got themselves involved. As for the Taker - Cena match, it was pretty good, I love how Taker pretty much no sold most of Cena's offence, I thought it was great when Cena went for the Five Knuckle Shuffle only for the Deadman to chokeslam him. The finish was pretty good as well, with Kennedy, Book and Show all getting themselves a piece of the action. Tha main event for Cyber Sunday will be very good imo, Cena vs Show vs Booker.

BTW two shows of TNA Impact! were recorded yesterday, a lot of shit happened but the biiiig thing was Angle. Samoa Joe came out and was told if he didn't return 'Jarrett's' NWA Title he wold be removed from the roster. Joe ignored this and ripped up the piece of paper that informed him of this. Angle then came out and after a brief staredown headbutted Joe, he then hit the angle slam and held up the belt. Joe then hit an enziguiri from behind and locked in a choke hold. Security came to break it all up whilst Jarrett retrieved the belt.

Then when the ring was cleared, Angle picked up the mic and started talking a load of shit. He said how he has asked for his release from the WWE and then stooped real low. He said Vince could kiss his 'Olympic ass'. That is really low, and lowers my respect from Angle even more, I can't believe he'd do such a thing. Oh yea supposedly Angle's contract stipulates that he must be at the top of TNA's roster, it also says that he will win the NWA Title within a year.

Also in TNA news, Brother Runt, Raven and Abyss got themselves involved in a hardcore match, when Jake 'The Snake' Roberts entered. He brought with him his trademark body bad and Boa Constrictor, Abyss ran from the Boa leading Runt to come to the ring and confront oberts. Roberts put the bodybag over Runt's head and put the snake down Runt's trousers. TNA then asked Roberts if he would be the special guest referee for the Mosnter's Ball match at Bound for Glory.

BTW just so you know, when I was talking about Taker's Lord of Darkness gimmick, I was referring to this:

Crap, cant read most of this post yet as ive yet to watch family reunion...its recorded at home...ah sky plus rocks with socks on!

well i will post my thoughts on the family reunion show. i can put it plain and simple Entertainment : YES Wrestling: NO
its just a matter of what you like more in a wrestling show. i personally love the wrestling and therfore i am hugely dissapointed from this secial show.
the longest match was kane VS umaga with 8 minutes...8 freaking mins. the benoit vs shelton match has the potential to be a fantastic match if you would give them at least 10 mins time to perform. but the match was only 4 minutes long. youve got to be kiddin me wwe.i mean you have a 3 hour-show and you fail to give great athletes like benoit and benjamin 10 minutes, thats just not right . i looked out of the window for a second and then in the next moment i saw benjamin tapping out.
wwe could have cut one dx genitalia-joke out and give the time to chris and shelton.
smackdow truly is the a-brand in the wwe. great matches, good tag team division and the better wrestlers. i said wrestlers not entertainers. that all has been proved at no mercy.
i will still watch wwe though and i like the brands no doubt but i am just dissapointed from the matches they showed in this very special 3-freakin-hours show. i know that wwe is more entertainment than wrestling but i get entertained by watching a great wrestling match.

ive got wwe for the storylines and the pyroeffects and the sports entertainment and tna for good old bloody wrestling

looking forward to your posts garrincha. hopefully we can attract more members to be active in this thread. keep up the posting mate

Like Dreamlander, i still havent got round to watching it, so im not reading your posts above chaps. I'll read them as soon as ive seen it though, and add my views then

Looking forward to it though!

Oh, and are any of you going to any of the Survivor Series Tour shows in the UK next month? Im going to the Newcastle one, and the line-up looks good i must admit, even though it seems to change regularly. I was excited about seeing Harry Smith in action, but he's no longer on the schedule. Hopefully they stick him back on though, give him a UK debut.

Yea I'll always rate pure wrestling higher than the entertainemnt, but I've been a big WWE fan for over a decade now and just feel accustomed to it now. The entertainment is great, but I really do want to see some top notchmatches put out. The thing is, there are the technical wrestlers out there who can do it, Punk, Haas, Benoit, Terkay, Burke, Regal, Finlay and Benjamin, those guys can put on some fantastic matches imo. Then you have guys like Taker, HBK, HHH, Kane, Book and Lashely who can put some very technically astute matches, while providng tons of entertainment.

BTW I am sooo pleased that you feel SmackDown! is the better show. I've felt this for a long time, yet most other peopl I encounter will tell me that RAW is the better show, why? Entertainment and hype. So much effort is put into RAW and so little into SmackDown! it is fucking coomical. RAW has all the big ppv's and the majority of the big names, but SmackDown! undoubtedly has the better wrestlers. That I why I would like wrestlers such as Benjamin and Haas to come over to Smackown!, it has a much more technical, risk taking feel to it. What with guys like Mysterio, Benoit, Book, London, Kendrick, Chavo, Wang Yang, Finlay, Regal, even big guys like Taker and Lashley have good, asic wrestling skills. What SmackDown! needs though is a leader, RAW has DX and Cena, they're the guys who'll bring in the big bucks, the money. SmackDown! has who, Booker and Batista? Booker is a great wrestler and a great heel but I suspect doesn't bring in that much money, while Batista has been terrible since his return. What SmackDown" needs is for veterans like Undertaker, a guy who has proven to be wrth countless amounts of money, to step it up. Currently Taker only appears part time, give him some mic time, main event status, a decent feud and a full time status and he could be fantastic. Also I really feel Lashley needs a heel turn to go to the next level, give him a manager to be his 'mouthpiece' similar to Lesnar and watch the money roll in. Seriously I'd love that, Teddy Long (as much as I like him) to be fired, only to bring back Farooq, and bring in Lashley and Benjamin and reform a new Nation of Domination, how friggin good would that be? I mean DX was good, but the Nation had their number, they must have beat them about 80% of the time. While were on the subject of old stables, what about the Ministry

Seriously though, I'd love for the Nation to come back, albeit with different wrestlers. Oh yea while I'm on the subject of SmackDown! it's been rumoured that Kane will go their and have one last feud with the Deadman, great wrestling, good promos and a general animosity, it should be one hell of a feud.



Unfourtunately I'm not, I'd love to go as bar some house shows here and their, I haven't been to a WWE show for years now, but I really don't have the time this year. I've seen Harry Smith in action a few times, Davey Boy's son and he does look impressive. Supposedly Bret's son, Dallas Hart is meant to be very good for his age as well. In fact there were rumours going around, not so long ago infact that at Surviror Series 2007, hich would be held in Montreal (ten years to the day of the Screwjob as well) it ould be HBK vs Dallas Hart with Bret in his corner.

This week's SmackDown! looks to have been very ipressive, here's the lowdown.

It was announced that Batista, Lashley and Finlay will fight it out on SmackDown! to face Book on next week's SmackDown! for the strap.

Kennedy comes out, demands a move to RAW, citing that after he beat Taker, he has now beat everyone on SD. Teddy comes out and says this isn't enough. Ken then put his title on the line against anyone hom he hasn't already beaten, Benoit comes out! A good match as you'd expect, aker's music hits, Kennedy stares at the ramp which allows Benoit to get the crosface in giving him the win.

Backstage Booker demands that Long change the main event, but Teddy refuses.

Regal then loses to Vito after the 'Toughest man to wear a dress' counters a sunset flip into a pin.

Lashley is shown backstage and states that he's been in predicaments like this before and came out on top, says he feels confident about the upcoming match.

MVP comes down to the ring and says he has an 'MVP sized problem' He goes on to say that there is a lack of talent and he wants a real challenge for his SmackDown! debut. You wouldn't fucking believe this, but the Big Red Machine comes down, fucks up MVP before he (MVP) rakes Kane's eyes and runs away.

Rey then beats Jamie Noble, after a 619 followed by a springboard legdrop. He then challenges Chavo to an 'I Quit' match where the loser will be forced to leave.

London, Kendrick and Jimmy Wang Yang defeated James, Stevens and Sylvan after Wang Yang (God bless the man ) hit a moonsault on Sylvan.

Backstage Finlay then tells us how he will 'knock Lashley's teeth in' and beat up Batista.

Batista then cuts a promo saying how he'll get what he wants.

Batista wins the triple threat match in a back and forth match after Lashley is knocked out by the Shillelagh, Finlay then recieved a Batista Bomb. This then lead to a staredown between the king and Batista.

just watched smackdown. the most shocking moment was when kane came into the ring as mvp's opponent . i was sure that he would come to smackdown but i thought he would take 5 months out. hopefully he gets a major push there and win the title and feud with the undertaker(THATS MONEY I TELL YA).

i am happy for benoit that he won the title but on the other hand dissapointed that he isnt pushed into the main event because this guy is a main eventer. a heel turn would do him a world of good though IMO.

well the the nr.1 face on smackdown batista won the triple threat match, whats new?

i am happy that the kennedy vs taker feud continues.

jimmy wang yang is absolute class in the ring. nice kicks very quick. you just gotta love this guy really.

on to tna. it was not a very good show. the final scene was good though where abyss, raven, runt and all the others stormed into the ring.

i am also not happy with sabin and his gang winning again. and why do you let him pin shelley. he could have pinned the other paparrazo but not shelley.

nash back at tna, i am intersted to see how that nash vs x-division thing is going to end. hopefully we will see nash alongside shelley. they are so hillarious.

Yea Kane definately deserves a big push, he's been one of WWE's most loyal servants imo, he's constantly been jobbing and puting new talent over, I think he deserves another time in the light.

I agree with you on Benoit too, the US Title is a great title but he really should be main eventing imo. enoit has fantastic chemistry with Booker while Batista has little.

Yep Jimmy Wang Yang is fantastic, I like that little moonsault at the end of the match as well. Did you know he used to be Akio? What I love about it is that he is putting so much effort into the gimmick.

Yes i knew that he was akio and he really seems to enjoy this gimmick. thats what i feel when i watch him in the ring. the guy is like a fresh breeze

Stone Cold Steve Austin kick ass, he's the greatest. It'll be nice to see him return in business, but I heard he has some injury problems, so maybe it won't happen never no more...

Austin is still contracted t WWE and will still make sporadic appearnces for the company. He still harbours neck njuries fromthe botched piledriver Owen Hart delivered ohim in 1996 (I believe). Neck injuries of that severity rarely recover 100%, hence the reason we won't see Austin in a consistent fighting capacity imo.

I agree though, he does kick ass Not the greatest of all time though, he's up there, but not the greatest imo.

And Cyper Sunday is only a few weeks away now, the main event being Show vs Cena vs Booker. To me that says neither Batista or RVD will be winning the straps of their rspectivve brands. Which in Batista's case is good news imo.

Indeed you are correct about the Stone Cold Steve Austin injury. I have seen slow motion footage of it and you can clearly see the crown of Stone Colds head stickng out below Owen Hartes thighs so the top of his skull and the neck end up absorbing all the wieght of the piledriver instead of Owen Hartes ass and legs. Which is a fair deal of force. Its a bit of a miracle he aint paralysed.

Ive always felt Stone Cold was possibly the best character or gimmick to come outta WWE. His fight with the pretty annoying and crappy Booker T in the shopping mall was one of the funniest things i have seen on WWE, where he gets fucked into the freezer room, and then emerges outta one of the fridges with a bottle of milk drinking from it. Pissed myself laughing.

As for Cyber Sunday, i dont know anythign else about it other than the main event. For the record, seeing as i havent posted much in this thread, i am a pretty big WWE fan, though the ECW show is absolute shit, whihc is a shame cause the likes of RVD and CM Punk are actually quite good, and i'm glad Jeff Hardy is back, although i think he still looks a little rusty at the moment!

Kane is also one of WWEs best servants and has never gotten the title run he deserved. Agree withe Mane in that he has acted as the whipping boy far too often for newbies.

And Londan and Kendrick rule. that kinda high flying wreckless suicide shit is what got my into WWE in the first place with Shawn Micheals crazy moonsaults and flying off of ladders. They need more lunatics like those 2. And i was frankly STUNNED that Kendrick got let go the first time he appeared on WWE a few years ago. his Spanky gimmick where he rap battled John Cena was fucking Ace!

Yea Owen really fucked that piledriver up man. Before hand Owen and Austin had agreed to do a Taker style piledriver, a belly to belly piledriver, the Tombstone almost. But instead of landing on his knees Owen landed on his ass and Steve's head just ame crashing down to the floor. Hart was really professional about it though, he carried on and started dancing around the ring in the typical heel fashion, that right there is real professionalism, he knew he was hurt, but still got the job done, just like Taker vs Makind in the Hell in the Cell of 97.

It's a shame though, as up until that poin Austin was a terrific mat technician, up there with the likes of Benoit, Hart, Angle and Eddie. But ya Austin was without a doubt one of the all time greats, he, Rock, Undertaker, Knae, HBK, HHH and a few others really dragged WWE into the Attitude era. BTW in a recent study, it was discovered that Austin was of the highest value to the WWE in the history of the company. No wrestler made the WWE more money than the 'Texas Rattlesnake', now did you know that?

Haha yea that Austin, Booker vignete was gold, have you seen the Church one as well, where Book is playing bingo. A .. as in ustin 3:16 ut the best moment with Asutin imo was when he brought the beer truck to RAW and then proceeded to spray the Corporation with a truckload of beer, the following week he then filled McMahon's new car to the brim with concrete. Pure gold

BTW I agree with you on ECW, the show is pretty bad overrall, what's worse is supposedly the ECW logo will be replaced by the WWE logog whilst the show becomes more 'family orientated'. And yea Punk is the fucking man, one of the best pure wrestlers in the WWE today imo.

I'll post up SmackDown! spoilers tomorrow, I can't be boethered at the moment but Batista beats Booker via DQ after Show and Cena get involved, Teddy Long states he'll try and make Cena/Batista vs Show/Booker for next week's manin event.

personally I enjoy watching ECW. i like the powerful moves the hard and tough wrestling and the hardcore elements. But the main reason why i like watching the show is because it is different to the other 2 old wwe brands. ecw has its own style and like that.although the storylines suck and they is no real structure in the program

this idea from the wwe to change the program of ecw to make it more family orientated is plain stupid. Then ecw will lose its personality, the unique style.if they want to create a sports entertainment brand out of ecw it wont work because they dont have the characters and it does not fit to ecw. it will get boring. i mean raw with all its super-duper stars is getting quite boring recently. so why should it work for ecw.

with the ecw how it currently is they attract different viewers. ecw allows wwe to have a wider and different fanbase, a fanbase that is sick of sports entertainment and not the same smackdow and raw watchers

just my 2 cents

pRoud Red, i hear what your saying about the style, and i think the style and, of course the Styles (Joey, see what i did there!), are great on ECW, but the so called "stars" like sabu, The Sandman and all these guys are horribly average. If it wasnt for RVD, Kurt Angle and the Big Show, all by this stage established WWE stars, then ECW revival would have died a death already.

And yes, i know RVD was ECW blah blah blah, but WWE has made him a worldwide recognizable star. Not ECW, no matter how hard core an ECW fan you are, RVD has become a phenomenon because of his time on Smackdown and RAW.

i know that the likes of sandman, dreamer, and sabu arent great athletes but maybe because of that it is attractive to watch. because these not so talanted wrestlers are putting in so much effort into the matches you really can feel this. and the matches are different to raws and smackdowns and thats good to have

i agree on the point that rvd has become everyones favorite wrestler during his time on raw and smackdown

EDIT: just watched tna and i have to say that the Angle-Joe confrontation was unbelievable.WOW.
that headbutt was so vicious. and the scene where angle held the world title up high with joe standing behind him his face covered with blood. brilliant

The thing about ECW is, it could and should be so much more. Compared to the old ECW, this incarnation is far from hardcore.Also, what pisses me off is you have little kids in attendance. I mean what the fuck's up with that? I don't want to see kids at an ECW arena, I want to see hardcore fans at a 'Bring your own weapons night', not some 10 year old bitch holding up a sign saying 'RVD rocks'.

This is the stuff I'm talking about:

http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/dh101606

http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/dh100906

I don't want to see little kidswatching ECW in a WWE arena, I want to see hardcore fans at Hammersmith Ballroom, baying for blood, cheering on the faces. Also they need to stop brining WWE stars to ECW, I didn't mind Show or Angle, but I don't see the point in brining in HBK, HHH, Kane and Taker to ECW, the simply don't fit in with it's style, if it was the Big Evil Red Devil/American Badass Undertaker I could understand, but not the fucking Deadman, the two just don't go. And they should definately give Heyman complete creative control, ECW was at its best when he was at the helm, not Stephanie McMahon.

BTW I'd just like to comment on SmackDown! today, fucking excellent show imo, in terms of wrestling SmackDown! is definnately the best. Regal and Taylor look a very good team, both a good technical, in your face wrestlers. And I fucking love Terkay and Burke, they should recieve a huge push imo, a Benoit - Terkay/Burke feud could be the shit imo. Oh shit, did anyone else see Taker Tombstone Helms? Taker couldn't get the positioning right and inadvertadly hit Helms' head on the floor, fucking dangerous.

The thing I love about SmackDown! though, is that in comparison to RAW it has such a varied roster. You have the technical, in your face guys such as Benoit, Finlay, Regal, Taylor, Helms, Hardy Terkay and Burke and Chavo, the high flying guys like Mysterio, London and Kendrick, Funaki and Wang Yang, the powerfhouses in the form of Batista and Lashley, the all rounder like M.V.P, Kennedy and Book and finally the big dudes in the form of Taker and Kane, no other WWE brand has such variation imo. They also have the best commentator in all of sports imo, in the form of JBL.

Also away from SmackDown!, Umaga has issued an open challenge to anyone from ECW or SmackDown!, I assume it will be Kane who accepts the challenge. And Dreamlander I strognly agree with you on the matter of Kane, whenever the WWE finds some new 'monster heel', they immediately give him a few big wins over Kane as a way os stamping their authority. Of the top of my head I can think of Snitsky, Umaga and Imposter Kane, all whom Kane has jobbed to under such circumstances. He is rumoured to be retirng at the end of 2007. so I hope he is given a huge push and maybe even one of the bigger titles as a reward for his professionalism.

You may remember, about ten years aboe the WWE signed 'The world's most dangerous man' and MMA fighter Ken Shamrock. Shamrock soon returned to MMA but after losing to Tito for a third time, it is rumoured he will leave the sport and return to wrestling, McMahon is suppposedly very enthusiastic about signing him. I would welcome him back with arms wide open, I loved Shamrock back in the day, he and Blackman had a great thing together imo and if Shamrock could be resigned, I would definately go for it. If he can put bit of size back on (he's fighting at about 205 pounds, i WWE he was around 240/250) I would definately resign him.

BTW who have people voted for in the Cyber Sunday polls. For the Champion of Champions match I voted Book whille Bischoff got my vote as the special guest referee. The reason being that I believe the champ who's title is on the line will win, and being the Booker fan I am, I want the King to win. As for the Bisch, well I just love that mofo

And finally, a new tag team named 'High Dosage' has been formed in OVW (WWE's training facility), the team consists of Jon Bolen and Ryan Reeves, supposedly Reeves is one of the bigger, more muscular stars of WWE, up there with Bobby Lashley. There are supposedly big plans for a High Dosage - Cryme Tyme feud.

i like terkay and burke too. they both have good wrestling styles, they complement each other very well. they also have great teamwork and with elijah doing the mic work i can definately see a bright future for the pair in the wwe


the undertaker looked really uncomfortable with that tombestone on gregory helms



woohooo i cant wait for bound for glory. i am so excited

first we beat the scousers and now i got BFG in front of me.brillant

Saw fuck all wrestling over the week so reading this thread is relly helping me catch up. The only time when Kane really seemed to get the limelight he deserved was obviously when Taker was involved or in his occassional battles with/against Big Show. I dont really remember him getting much else of a main eventer status that he should have had.

I must also point out, seeing as Ken Shamrock was brought up, that there is a period in the mid 90s where i stopped watching wrestling. I'm not sure why, but i just lost all interest. But i have been back into it now for about 6 or 7 years. I missed Shamrock whe he was on WWE and i also missed certain things like Owen Harte when he was big shot and the legendary Micheals/Austin feud.

On the Shamrock note, he ahs defintely retired from the UFC. 3 defeats against Tito Ortiz has left him a little jaded and he knows now he is no longer a big shot in the UFC. (Massive UFC fan here by the way too). I dislike Shamrock as a man, he kinda annoys me, but i think his personality would make him a terrific addition to RAW. A guy with really good wrestling and submission skills, and a personality that would give him real good mike skills. I would be surprised if he came back though in all honesty. He's 43 now i think and i get the feeling he wants to be a family man for a while. Could be wrong on this though!

I can remember Kane main eventing RAW during his feud with HHH and Evolution, other than that and his feuds with Taker I can't remember him main eventing. He is normally on the upper mid card nowdays, though I feel he will get a real push this year, he needs to win the Royal Rumble, he fucking needs to. I mean whenever he enters it he always eliminates a fuck load of people, I remember back in the day in the 2001 Royal Rumble where he eliminated 11 competitors, including Drew Carey and The Honky Tonk Man

Yea I remember Shamrock's time in WWE pretty well, he had some very good matches, such as his one vs The Rock at King of the Ring 98. Though he had some terrible one as well, I remember when he faced of against Vader and HBK (in seperate matches) andd the two of them would be shouting out the moves and holds before they were executed. I'd like to see him in WWE again though, Shamrock vs either Terkay/Burke or Benoit would be great imo.

But yea I think he is pretty muh retired from UFC, he was a fucking legend in his first tenure but has been very poor since his return. I don't watch UFC much anymore, I prefer Pride and K1 HEROES, mainly because Pride has Fedor and K1 Lesnar, though he will be making his debut in February now. On a more personal note,I'm actually occasionally training in Brasilian Jiu Jit Su at the moment, only the training though as it gives me a fucking excellent workout, same with Freestyle wrestling.

Watched Bound For Glory last night, it was pretty good, I liked the LAX - Daniels/Styles match, the 8 Mile Street Fight was good too,. I wasn't too keen on the Monster's Ball match though, it was pretty obvious Joe was gonna win, and while the Sting Jarrett match was pretty enjoyable, I didn't think it was that great. Man Jarrett really needs to get out of the title picture, the dude is utter crap.

Overall the PPV was decent, but I felt it was one of TNA's worst, many slip ups and fuck ups occured, I've seen better from TNA, but it wasn't that bad I suppose.

BTW I've heard a rumour that TNA has already booked an Angle - Joe match for Genesis, wow

my thoughts on bopund for glory:

the battle royal match was good but nothing special. i expected a real spotfest but there was nothing in that sense. the winner was austin starr and its okay because they want to push him and he has great wrestling ability and charisma. but as a huge shelley fan that i am i was dissapointed that he didnt win the battle royal. i think alex shelley deserves a titleshot or to hold the title. he is completeley over with the fans has the most charisma in the x-division (alongside daniels and aj) and he has got his own x-division style.he just got all the tools to be the x-champ.

the monsters ball match was weak. and jake the snake roberts as the special referee was useless. then raven had to put this old man over? for what i am asking.roberts did not allow abyss to use the thumbtacks? wtf? the were some good moves and spots in the match though and the fact that everyone knew that joe is going to win didnt do the match any good

lets move on..
the 4-way tag match was decent nothing more to say

Chris Sabin vs Senshi was incredible. i was very dissapointed by there previous match with all that jackass bollocks, but they showed everyone that they can put in one hell of a match. very stiff action with unique punches and kicks, near falls good pace and atmosphere.

the 8 mile match was nothing special IMO. they can do better.

Six Sides of unforgiving Steele. YEAH. what a great rivalry. brilliant match. it was brutal it was high risk and it was intense. great tag-team action. their ultimate-x match and the steele cage match were the absolute wrestling highlights of the year. no doubt about that.
LAX is the biggest stable today. i am absolutely impressed with them. konnan does a good job on the mic and homicied and hernandez are just kicking it. special mention to hernandez another big man who is athletic and not afraid of high risk manouvers(sp?).

the main event was very good IMO. it had that old school style.the wrestling was not the best but that look of the characters with kurt angle constantly involved. it wasnt boring at any point.

i really enjoyed the ppv. 7.5/10

i gave the ppv a 7.5 because some matches werent as good as i expected and since it is the biggest ppv of tna there has got to be at least 5 brilliant matches and iv seen just 2 absolute brilliant matches

BTW samoa joe vs kurt angle has got feud of the year and matchES of the year written all over it

Great post man.

BTW word on the street has it that TNA's 'The Alpha Male' Monty Brown is in talks with WWE concerning a possible move. I have to say I have always been a fan of Brown, he is decent on the mic and a good wrestler imo and brings a lot of intensity. Somwe of his promos are just insane, they remind me of Warrior's promos back in the day. He has a crap finisher though, if indeed he does sign with WWE, they need to give him a finisher that actually looks good.

I've read that rumour too on some website. He is the one from tna who can make it in the wwe IMO. he has got the physique to be a main eventer there, he has got tons of charisma, is brillant on the mic(he kinda reminds of the rock honestly. the way he talks trash about the other wrestlers) and he can wrestle.

I would love to see him receiving amajor push in tna because he can put in great matches. especially angle vs brown would be very interesting to see as they could do funny promos too.

but i would not mind him seeing him in the wwe. he has got what it takes to make a big impact in wwe firstly because of his ability to do the sports entertainment thing and the wrestling

Last wekk Teddy Long said he'll try and book Cena/Batista vs Show/Book for the week's SmackDown!'s main event. He was succesful in that and many have gone on to call the Batista/Cena pairing a dream team. I strongly disagree, however this week on SmackDown!. Heres what went down:

Batista calls out Finlay, instead Paul Heyman comes down and attempts to cinvince Big Dave to join ECW. He thniks about it for a while before rejecting the proposal, Batista then proceeds to beat up Heyman and his security guards.

William Regal/Dave Taylor defeat Lashley/Tatanka - Regal and Taylor win after Regal pins Tatanka with his feet on the ropes. After the match is finished, Tatanka, in rage, attacks both the referee and Lashley. During the match it appeared as though Taylor picked up a legit leg injury.

Kristal then intervies Benoit backstage. The Rabid Wolverine spots Vickie Guererro and tells her how he and Eddie were great friends. Vickie says Benoit and Eddie wernt as close as he thought.

M.V.P is booked for a No DQ match with Kane, but tells Teddy Long he can't make it due to 'illness'. Kennedy then comes in and demands a match with Taker, however The Deadman isn't at SmackDown! this week and so it will be Kennedy vs Kane in a No DQ match.

Backstage Vickie warns Chavo to stay clear of Benoit. Chavo states that he likes to keep his friends cloe, and his enemies closer.

Gregory Helms defeats Matt Hardy - Helms reverses a pin attempt into a Crucifix, using the ropes for leverage.

Cena is seen giving Batista a pep talk in the back.

Backstage Ashley Massaro shows London and Kendrick her costume for the Trick or Treat Divas Battle Royal later that evening. She is wearing a winged costume.

Kennedy defets Kane - M.V.P interferes and hits The Big Red Machine with a chair allowing Senor Kennedy to pick up the win.

Chavo and Vickie come out and say how their lives have been able to move on since Rey has been out of their them. They then show the clip of Rey saying 'I QUitt' multiple times on the screen. Benoit comes out forcing Chavo and Vickie to flee the ring leaving The Crippler standing alone.

Heres the best bit, Teddy comes down and talks about the night's events so far, specifically M.V.P's interferance during Kane's match. As punishment he sets up a match next week. It will be Kennedy and M.V.P against ... The Brothers Of Destruction.

Divas Battle Royal is next up, the divas wear the following costmes:

Jillian Hall comes out dressed as Elvis
Michelle McCool comes out dressed as a nurse
Kristal comes out dressed as a gold miner
Ashley comes out in her winged costume
Layla comes out dressed as a bunny

Miz makes himself special guest referee, he helps Kristal win by pulling Layla of the apron. After the commercial break Miz states that he helpedKristal win due to Layla's actions at No Mercy (the Fat Stripper). The Boogeyman then comes out, Miz pushes Kristal in his way allowing himself to escape. Boogeyman scares Kristal into laying on the ground were he puts worms in her mouth.

Show and King Booker are seen talking about the main event in the back.

Cena/ Batsita defeat Booker/Show - Big Show walks out on King Book - ahhh after the King's actions on RAW (giving Show the Book End) this allows Batista to deliver the Batista Bomb to the King.

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Doesn't seem to be too muuch wrestling on this week's SmackDown!, it looks extremely exciting though, especially with Kane and Taker teaming up again. Like you said, any angle involving The Undertaker and Kane, if done correctly will be money.

Ooooh, Brothers of Destruction....Waheyyy. Gonna be a good one i say. I havent watched Smackdown in a few weeks...actually since before MVP wrestled for the first time, so i may wanna tune in quick.

Also the Boogeyman back? WTF? Fair enough if he has picked up a move or two, because his gimmick is hilarious. but if he cant do anymore than that stupid bodyslam, than he has no place in the WWE ring.

Still though, he's funny for short periods here and there. His rendition of Clementine when his head was on a platter in Bookers dressing room was one of the funniest things i have seen on WWE...

well its time to bring this thread back again.

this weeks smackdown was one of weeker shows IMO
but it was still enough to completely OWN raw once again(i honestly cannot watch raw anymore)

I was very happy that regal and david taylor won but the smackdown curse seems to continue. david fucking taylor is injured.goddamn.i really liked him, him and regal were great. i could see them having great matches against the current tag champs. does that mean that regals push is over. i sincerely hope not. they could maybe bring in another european to partner him? maybe try burchill again? i dont know.

i cant see the logic of tatankas turn from face to heel to be honest. afterall he is just a undercarder although he is a legend.

i hope they dont feud lashley with tatanka because that would be a complete disaster. you push that young great talent into the main event and than all of a sudden he wreestles against an undercarder? hhhmmm i dont know about that.

to see the brothers of destruction again is sweet. and thats another major push for mr.kennedy.

i am really looking forward to the benoit vs chavo matches but i think the wwe should end all the eddie gurrero storylines let this man rest in peace its been one year since he shockingly passed away. R.I.P eddie.

now my comments on this weeks impact show

the show was generally really good but that reverse battle royal was the stupiest thing i ever saw. and some of the participants were ridiculous. and lance hoyt in the final two in that fight for your right man big lance lost a match against roode at bound for glory... in a fucking dark match.instead of pushing the hottest free agent in tna robert roode, they push lance hoyt who was so out of the picture in tna.this is 100% vince russo. and chris sabin has lost the title to aj styles(on next weeks impact)this is also 100% made in vince russo

i am so fucking pumped up for the kurt angle vs samoa joe match at genesis also the AMWvsLAX rivalry seems to be great

another rant. the tna bookers and writers completely fucked up the naturals. they are such a great tag team, 4-time champs i think but noone gives a damn about them

Yea I didn't mind this week's SmackDown! to be honest, it was a decent show but it could have been much better. I didn't like the Kane - Kennedy match for the simple reason that it made Kennedy look the agressor and Kane look very weak. Kennedy is the heel, he shouldn't be the agressor, especially against a monster like Kane.

I too am concerned about Taylor, he looks a very good, rough, technically sound wrestler, in the form of Finlay or Regal. I've heard he's injured his mensicus (spelling?) in his knee, no idea how long he'll be out for though. I'd like to see Regal's pish continue, he is a fantastic wrestler and a great heel. That means Taylor will now join Khali, Henry and Rey on the injured list, coincidentally all have knee injuries. Also when you consider Batista, Angle, Lashley amd Benoit have all missed some action due to injuries, I think it is safe to say that SmackDown! really has suffered in terms of injured wrestlers.

I'm so frustrated about Benoit though, sure he'll put on some fantastic matches with Chavo, but he needs to be main eventing imo, have him drop the US title and let him feud with Batista and Booker.

Also Lashley should not be feuding with Tatanka imo, I understand he is a legend in wrestling, but he isn't the greatest wrestler, he seems like a nice guy and the crowd warms to his character, but honestly Lashley should be feuding with bigger people than Tatanka imo.

I liked the show though, I'll definately tune in next week, if only to see the Brothers of Destructinon reunite. I remember the last time they teamed up, Taker was the badass biker and Kane a masked, pyromanical maniac. It was about 5 years ago, around the time of 'The Invasion', easily one of the best tag teams ever imo.

RAW was again dissapointing imo, though I loved Cryme Tyme, they'll be getting a Title shot in no time. I also didn't mind seeing Anderson, Piper and Rhodes back together in a WWE ring, though I think WWE should try and lay off the Legends a bit, and concentrate more on the new up and comers. SmackDown! is doing this perfectly, Terkay, Burke, Kennedy, M.V.P and Lashley have all been treated correctly thus far imo, I can't say the same of Shelton, Carlito and Nitro on the RAW roster. Like I said though, I like Cryme Tyme, a young up an d coming tag team and I'd love for them to get a push.

BTW anyone seen the Ric Flar and The Four Horseman DVD scheduled to come out next year? The trailer looks amazing. Although WWE films is for the most part, a fuck up, I love WWE DVD's. The Brian Pillman one, released recently is amazing, it really shows how to portray a character in kayfabe. I'd love for WWE to release a Kurt Angle one, though I fer it'll be in the same fashion as the Ultimate Warrior DVD: 'The Self Destruction of The Ultimate Warrior'. Oh well I have Benoit's DVD (has the match against Grat Sasuke) and Bret's DVD if I ever need to watch some technical wrestling. Best WWE DVD's though imo are Eddie's and Taker's, 'Cheating Death, Stealing Life' and 'Tombstone: History of the UnderTaker'.

Oh btw concerning RAW, I fucking loved Farooq's 'Damn'. Best cameo ever eriously they should bring him back on SmackDown! and have him Henry, Long, Shelton, Brown and Lashley reform the Nation, now that would be money. Then you could have Farooq and Henry breaking away and saying how the new Nation is destroying the old Nation os Domination's legacy, which would lead to aa tag match Lashley, Brown and Benjamin against Henry, Farooq and Farooq's old partner, JBL

BTW I've heard that the TNA bookers are planning on turning Jeff Jarrett face, I can't see this working, oh well at least they can try. And suppoesdly the WWE bookers will try and give Khali a run as a face when he returns, rumour has it that the bookers were expecting the SmackDown! crowd to give Khali a standing ovation when he lost the Last Man Standing match to Taker, little did they know it was a terrible, terrible match. Also in that match Taker hit Khali with a chairshot which he no sold, in rage Taker shouted 'Shit, learn to wrestle' and hit Kahli with a real chairshot, giving him a legit nine stiches in his head. Wow, ruthlessness from Undertaker


An example of why I believe Shelton to be the most athletic wrselter in WWE today. Fantstic match with HBK, argubaly one of the best of all time.

that nation of domination tag match sounds intersting lol. you should be the head-writer of raw. i tell you the show would be way better .

eddies and takers dvds are really good.

yeah shelton is definately the best pure athlete on raw maybe in wwe(benoit is there too) i remeber his match against kurt angle at eddie tribute show. a classic match if you ask me. i have it on my pc

it will be interestin to see if tna fans are into it, having jarrett as a face. i really dont know aout that he is a pretty damn good heel one of the best in the b usiness and tna needs top-class hels more than faces. they have enough good guys in the roster. jeff is so over as a heel the fans absolutely hate this man. i dont know if he can get over as a face.

i hope that made sense lol.

BTW: i really enjoy reading your posts. they are of the highest quality.
i try to improve my posts too

lets start with the negatives first. RAW:

this show truly bores me to death even though the show was slightly better than the previous. They dont really show any intentions of improving the show week in week out because they got the 4.0 ratings the money is coming into vinces pocket amd the chairman is satisfied. i really hope for the fans sake that tna can someday truly compete with wwe so that the writers and bookers put more efforts to the show and create a new attitude era.

DX: quite honestly i cant watch the anymore. they are nothing, absolute nothing like the old dx. i thibk they miss the new age outlaws and x-pac.
dx needs to be a big stable so they can truly terrorize the whole show.
hbk and the game, similar to cena, are always triumphating.
i mean hhh got speared and got hit by three damn chairshots but guess who was standing tall in the middle of the ring. triple h. of course they want to show that dx is a real force and can beat anyone and it does not matter how many are fighting against them but they made randy and edge look like like weak nobodies for dx(triple h).
they should have pushed randy and edge in this match IMO just to make cyber sundays match more intersting and excited.
the match between randy and the game was decent though.

the positive was ECW:
bravo. i have to applaude. the show has only 45 mins but is of the highest quality. the mnatches are good and they put more and more effort into creating good storylines.