I think as of late people have really under-rated Deco. And Lampard has been great for Chelsea. But besides the current stats and whatnot, who is the better player?

I say<<<\/\/\/............... And I honestly believe it.

lampard.......

Deco, brilliant playmaker, had wished he would come to Man Utd but we went for Park. If I wanted a goalscorer I'd put Henry in the midfield or something..

Deco always, hes a Legend but its a hard Decision, cause they are both good

Deco is talented but is nowhere near as effective as lampard... so lampard!

Deco, best short passes in the world.

Lampard,, hes the best player in the world today

Lampard more effective?

I don't know. You have to be pretty effective to lead a team to Uefa Cup and CL sucess. Not to mention Portugeuse league twice, Spanish league once, Portugeuse cup, and Spanish Cup. His goalscoring record is better than Lampard's throughout his career. Deco's passing game is better as well, he was CL top assister when he led Porto to winning the CL. But beyond the stats, Deco is a better all-0round player. Efficient, hard-working, good tackler, very skillful with the ball.

I voted for Deco.

Thank you, u've exactly tooken what i was going to say. As I vote Deco!

Just to make a point! how to people think deco would do in the EPL? just a thought!

Both players are overrated. Lampard scores alot of penalties and Deco always get deflected shots into goals. I never grasped why Deco would be voted as the 2nd best player in the world. Really hope that Van Bommel forces him out of the first team!

they really aren't there for scoring, goals are only bonus..

You are right, but they do get a lot of attention for their goals which is a bit misleading.

I guess most of you Deco fans saw him in Porto, I missed that part of his career. I only had the chance of "enjoying" him in Barca. While Ronaldinho, Xavi are phenomenal players Deco looks ordinary. He missplaces his passes quite alot and almost always foul while doing the tackles. As you probably noticed, Barca are doing really well now without him in the team.

Lampard is brilliant the last 2 seasons, so I go for Lampard, though Deco is one of my favourits...(and also brilliant)

lol im hearing it from a Chelsea fan obviously,

http://english.people.com.cn/200412/14/eng...214_167305.html

What I mean by overrated is that its a joke that Deco was voted ahead of both Ronaldinho and Henry, thank god he didn't win.

I do not really like both players so I can objectively state that both are soooooooooooo over-rated. However Lampard being over-rated has made him a better player and he continues to progress Deco is no better than juninho Paulista and whilst he has playmaker skiils and technique I would not reccommend him to Bolton, so it's gonna have to be

Lucky Lampard that gets my vote

He would obviously do bad, just like Lampard would in La Liga or Serie A. Deco is a born Brazilian. He plays like one. EPL is much different and not suited for Brazilians. There aren't many Brazilians in EPL for a reason. EPL is based around midfielders making 50 yard passes to their forwards and letting them score. La Liga is more suited to Brazilians because they keep the ball on the ground, pass it around, use skills to get past players.

It is true Barca are doing well without Deco. But he has been injured. He made his return last week and made a nice backheel pass to Messi who messed up a breakaway. Now that van Bommel is injured, Deco will take the spot against Madrid. Will be interesting to see what he does.

Lampard I guess, even though Deco is good too.
My final choice:Lampard

You kidding me? In 2004 look what he did.

Porto CL
Portuguese Superliga
Brought Portugal to the finals of euro 2004.

Heck 2004 wasn't even his best season, 2003 he was magnificant, never had a "okay" game. He was the best player in all of them. But didn't win because Porto were in the uefa cup.

I would pick him over Lampard anyday. Damn I want him back at Porto.

Lampard!

his 2003 performances in the UEFA was brilliant and made me even suggest Barca should have gone for him at the same time with Ronaldinho..He was as well awsome in 2004..

I would go for Deco any day, week, month, year

i'd have to say lampard because of how much he produces for chelsea

What a load of bollocks, any professional footballer can make a short pass into feet or space, I can make short passes, the difference between me and them is the weight of the passes is perfect almost every time, and all professional footballers can perfectly weight a pass. I don't see how you can say one player makes a perfectly weighted pass better than another 20000+ players who can do the exact same thing.

Lampard does more for Chelsea than Deco does for Barca. He does more than Deco did at Porto.

People on these football forums overrate european players too much, based on what they've heard and goal highlights.

Lampard right now.

I don't think Deco has looked as good at Barca as he did for Porto. Maybe the big stars overshadow him slightly. Lampard is pretty much on fire except he can have the odd game where he is invisible. And please people stop chatting shit about players not being able to perform in other leagues! It is the one argument that has little if any strong evidence.

Deco is good but right now Lampard is better.

and I don't see how you can say that about OPINIONS (people still don't understand what it means)

About short passes DECO IMO is best at short passes at opening game, I don't know any other player that when gets ball passes it so fast to other player, and it's not just giving ball away, it's almost always opening game and creating scoring opportunities..

Pfffft Lampard has done more for Chelsea? Has he lead them to win a Champions League or the UEFA Cup? Hmmmmm.

Please thats ridiculous. Lampard has to do a hell of a lot more if he's going to compare his job at Chelsea to what Deco to with Porto.

You make a good point Tozz.

I still stand by this:


Deco710: 1 player does not lead a team to European glory. Is Ronaldinho worse than Deco because he did not lead Barca to the european cup with PSG?

Lampard has played consistantly well for Chelsea for the past 2 seasons, he's scored more than 30 goals from Midfield and he's created alot too. Has Deco done the same in the last 2 seasons at Barca? He stood out at Porto because he was the creator, but at Barca Ronaldinho is the main man. Barca want Lampard. They wouldn't want Lampard if Deco was playing better than Lampard.

Barça wants Lampard argument is based on what? There are rumours about any player to any team everyday, it doesnt mean they are true, thats why they are rumours. Chelsea wanted Deco, and made an official offer for him (that was actually higher than Barcelona) before he moved to Barça, what does this mean then?

I like Lampard alot, but Deco has a different class. The only thing Lampard has on Deco is his shoot, but Deco takes everything else.

OMG I did not just read something that retarded. Thank you because you just showed me that you don't watch this player at all, especially in his Porto days ( Watching him twice doesn't count ). Year after year this guy got the most assists sometimes even being top goal scorer for Porto. The most assists in the CL 2004, what does that tell you? He was Portos backbone, he did everything. His dribbling, passing, vision, timing everything from him was perfect. I watch a lot of Chelsea, and I can say that Lampard hasn't contributed anything near what Deco did for Porto.

Count them buddy, a couple of Superliga titles and cups, one CL and one Uefa cup. tell me that he didn't have much an impact for Porto.

Your bias has no limits..............

Yes you're right. He wasn't perfect, he only did things right about 95% of the times.

The rest of Portista's post are stats, and with that you can't argue.

Yeah of course, saying he was the backbone of the team with passing,dribbling,vision etc, great facts mate .Lampard this season - 12 PL Games 10 Goals, which makes him the top PL goal scorer, 4 Internationals 2 Goals, whats Decos? You say hes was the backbone of Porto, what about Lamps with 160 odd consecutive PL appearances?

But then again hes English, so he will never be World Class............

oh no, you being English clearly doesn't make you bias

I don't think you say the facts I pointed out the first time. Here let me do it again.

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most assists for Porto pretty much every season.
top goal scorer for Porto a couple of times.
most assists in the CL 2004
Played a huge role to win Porto..

Superliga titles and cups
one CL
and one Uefa cup.

Did you catch that this time?

10 goals, okay not to bad but most of them came from free kicks and penalty shots.
Deco scored plenty of free kicks, and managed to be top goal scorer without taking any penalty shots.

Lampard record says it all. He's superior to deco in: tackling, shooting,set pieces. However Deco has better vision and individual skill. Both are at theri best when they have a defensive mid. I choose Lamps becasue hes more wwll rounded.

Coming from a PORTO+PORTUGAL fan

Yeah I did 'catch that time' and im sure that there will be plenty of people who will say Porto didnt win the CL through Decos class more a case of good defense and a lot of luck.Theres no doubt that the refs decision to diasallow Scholes goal, which was not offside, kept you in the comp. Top goalscorer? How many did he get 10-13 in a season? Lampard today is better than Deco of 04, but using your logic Costinha with his CL + UEFA cup medals is a better player than someone like Emerson. Also doesnt matter how Lampard scores, come back when Deco has that sort of goal scoring ratio + shots to goal ration.

Exactly, the passing, the dribbling, the vision.. are the Portista bias points of view, he wasnt perfect, he only did things right 95% of the times.

He was much more influential in Porto than Lampard will EVER be at Chelsea. You knew immediatly in a Porto that Deco didn't play, we would become dull, without movement, without magic. I watched his debut live for Porto in the 98/99 season against Braga and you could see right away his class. He only played six games in that season because he only started playing at the end, but in the next season, at 22, he was already a fundamental player for Porto. So, since the 99/00 season Deco was a key figure in our strategy, he played a total of 142 LEAGUE games for us and scored 32 goals, 25 of which he scored in his last three seasons. He was our top scorer in the 01/02 season (IMO his best season at Porto) with 13 goals. Unfortunately I couldn't find his total number of assists, but he was at least on the last 4 seasons at Porto the king of assists in Portugal. He was simply unbelievable. He didn't only play football he made art every time he touched the ball.

Lampard will never be as influential as Deco was at Porto mainly because his role is not the same that Deco was, he is not a playmaker, he is not that typical number 10. Just like Deco will never be as influential at Barcelona as he was on Porto.

BTW some of you englishmen do have an annoying inferiority complex.

Yeah Porto had a great defence, but they weren't the ones who setted up all the goals. Luck? First off, the offside call was right, not because it was offside but because their was a very clear foul before the goal.

You wanna hear luck, Man u not losing to Porto by the score of 5-1 etc in the first round. Man we don't have half the budget but we made Man u look like a bunch of kids. Knocking out teams like Lyon and Man u, I don't call that luck.

Bold part I agree with, blue part I do not agree with, simple as.
Why lament the past form? Lampard gets my vote.



Respect other peoples' opinion, even if it totally contradicts yours.

I didn't vote cause it's a very close one. For now, Lampard is in a extraordinary form and maybe a little bit ahead. But remembering the past, it was Deco.

Only the portuguese know how great he was before lost his pace. He was simply unbelievable. The actual Deco is a shadow of Deco 99-00, 00-01, 01-02, 02-03. If at that time, he was already at Barça, he would be considered the best world player in 03. That year it was: giving him the ball, he dribles one, two and makes the final pass. That season was fantastic. But playing in Portugal is like being invisible, and then suddenly they go abroad and everyone: OMG what a player. Suddenly they run for prizes, as if they suffered some kind of metamorphosis.

Without acceleration, Deco nowadays can't drible anymore, and now it's only a team player, with an outstanding passing ability. An english here said that a great short passing means nothing...that says it all about the difference between english and latin mentality. For me, a latin, is so easy to see the importance of short passing(thinking quick, give and move on, find almost impossible angles in short spaces, allows you to dominate a game, ball possession), that I really can't understand this way of thinking.
Sorry the english

Lampard.

I can only quote what D-Block has said as I think it surpasses what Deco has to offer.

In saying that I have not seen much of Deco before the new millenium.

But right now? Lampard for me.

Yes Lambard does more for Chelsea then what Deco does for Barca, but overall Deco is the better player and his sucess with Porto proves it.

My vote goes to Deco. Lampard has many years to catch up to what Deco has accomplished. Deco was a damn magician, everytime he touched the ball you would be amazed.

It all boils down to how you rate a player, and what criteria you use. Lampard does more for Chelsea than Deco does for Barca, Deco did more for Porto than Lampard did for Chelsea so far. So in all truth, Lampard is better, since we shouldn't get too fussy about the past.

deco neways d-man cech republic all the way

Portista: I think that Everton, Bolton, Wigan, Newcastle, Aston Villa are of a higher quality than the likes of Braga, Pacos de Ferreria, Rio Ave and Boavista.

oh please everton better then teams like Braga. who are in first place in Portugal.

Dont go on trying to compare, especially since i doubt you watch the league.

Lampard, he passes greatly, he's smart, he has good kicks, he also is good at free-kicks, and he is intelligent where he wants his kicks/passes to go.

well, deco might have better stats then lampard but currently lampard has got the edge, he has been consistent for the past 3 season and is become better and better every season, so deco might have been better few season ago but now lampard is definately better IMO.

Both are really really fantastic players but I feel Lampard's game is more complete, He get's my vote.

For thoses who criticises deco.. just open your eyes and see the number of tackles that he do in a game. He is one of the best in free kicks, he scores a lot and his moves are just great i believe is one of the most complete players in the world of football. Platini said " Deco is better then ronaldinho "