Today, we had a game agaisnt Second Place (We're top). They were 3-0 up at Half Time, but we brought 2 goals back in about 20 minutes in the 2nd half...

It then came to the last 5 minutes. I got the ball about 15 metres from the Halfway line on the left hand side. I took the ball forward, a defender came to me, but i knocked it past him and beat him for pace. I then cut inside into the box, there was one of their Centre Backs infront of me. I feinted to go right but went left, then put the ball through is legs. He then turned his back, and i ran into him. I was layed out on the Floor, and the Referee shouted, No Penalty. I was gutted.

I was just wondering, would you have gave it?

Personally, i would have because if a team has come from 3-0 down, and is looking for an equaliser, i'd give them the benefit of the doubt.

They were all over us first half, but we were all over them second half. So a 3-3 draw would have been a respectable scoreline.

Benefit of the doubt?


It depends on how it happened, did the goalie get it really fast, would you have had a chance to score if he didn't get in front of you.
Depending on how it went and how the ref saw it. I didn't see how it happened, so I can say it's a penalty. If what your saying is right, then yea it should have been, but I guess the ref saw it a different way.

Yeah you don't deserve a penalty because of how you play, it's given because it's a foul or not.

How did you end up on the ground by running into his back ?

Did he also end up on the ground ?

There's no way we can judge exactly what happened but it sounds like all the CB did was use his body well. It's what I coach my players to do. You may have knocked the ball to far past him anyway, and despite the fact there was contact, you as an attacker don't have the right to go through another player, he exists on the field in his own right.

So, he used his body, you tried to go through him, rather than dodging him probably half hoping you'd get a penalty decision. It doesn't sound like a foul, or obstruction.

If however, you tried to go round him and he kept moving into your path and obstructed you that way then you have a shout.

It's similar in basketball, if the defender has both feet on the ground and is 'set' and you as the attacker run into him, you are causing the foul and it'll go against you.

If the defender is still moving and isn't 'set' when the contact is made, then you are being fouled against.

From what you've said, sounds like good play from the CB. I mean, you didn't score and you didn't get a penalty, there was no foul. Do you want him on your team ?

First of all, i took, probably a step, to the left. And he made movement towards me.

He wasn't like "sheperding" the ball, he was beat, and he knew all he could do is get in my way.

And no the Keeper didn't get the ball, it was about 2 yards from edge of 6 yard box.

I've seen it given in the Premiership and in other Leagues.


This was the Scenario:

Before challenge
---------------|--------G--------|-----------------
| Ao D |------------------------------|
|

After challenge
---------------|--------G--------|-----------------
| ADo |-----------------------------|
|


A = Me
o = Ball
D = Defender

Nice scenerio, if he did it on purpose, it is a foul if you ran into him on purpose not really, and it really depens on where the referee is from, i have noticed that if the ref is from a country where tough football is played, they dont give fouls very often and the vice versa.

He was an old Englsih bloke.

He was standing on about the Penalty spot.

So he hadn't moved from the last attack then!!

Tells me what I need to know about the ref.

you say you feinted to go right but went left? how did you end up running into him? if you did do it well, you would of beaten him and his only option would of been to take you down by clipping your legs = penalty

IF you did feint well and had an opening to beat him, and he then turned his back and purposely moved closer to you to block you from getting the ball = penalty.

But if he just turned around on the spot to get the ball thats gone through his legs, well then i dont think its a penalty

Lol .

As with just about everyone, I agree that there really is know way to tell if this deserved a penalty or not as we did not see it... we're also getting the description of this from someone who is, to be honest, somewhat biased!

What Mux says summarizes my opinion on the matter; "you as an attacker don't have the right to go through another player, he exists on the field in his own right."

If he TRULY made movement towards you, i'd say it's a foul. Also, not sure why you wouldn't mention that in the first place because that was the KEY thing to the entire story here. But to me it sounds like he got megged and turned around to recover the ball and you, instead of going around him, ran into him. I'd say no foul from my limited information of the situation.

Even if it was a foul, that'd be obstruction, and to my knowledge thats an indirect FK in the box. Sounds like you'd have a good case for this, but in my opinion it was not a penalty. BTW I know that defenders will often "shield" the ball while letting it roll out and I think at least half the time this constitues obstruction as they are obviously not making any attempt to play the ball and are simply backing into the forward, and I think that really needs to be called more.

doesnt sound like a foul to me but i cant reall judge can i. oh well no point dwelling over the past move on and score more goals this week

moral of this story: Nutmegs are fuckin' weak 1v1 moves, and are used as a cheap way out by the most unagile attackers.. and you'll just get bodied off the ball everytime.