who do u think is more better and more valuable to their respective clubs? i think henry is more better and more valuable to his team...we all see what happens when he's injured...and we also see what happens when he gets back on the field...he's just amazing

Both players are equally important to their clubs but henry is simply better IMO

Agree. Henry is more valuble to his team. Just look at the assists and goals he gets and you can see the change in Arsenal wen he dont play

I also think Henry is better than Shevchenko. Shevchenko does not appear to have any weak areas but Herny's positives are so great that an all round striker like Shevchenko is still not as good IMO. Henry get more goals and more assists and both have a similar Champions League goals per game record.

There is no dubt ... No hay ninguna Duda ...

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Henry all the way he is the best Striker in the world or at worst second best to Ronaldo, Henry is way better than Shevchenko compared to Henry shev looks like just another striker.

None of course

man r u serious...who do u like rooney?

It all depends on choice. Henry is an amazing "ALL ROUND FORWARD", involved in assists and scoring goals. A striker who contributes more to the team. Shevchenko is more of "TARGET MAN". Similar to Ronaldo. They rely on speed, strength and skills to beat defenders. And they are very reliable in terms of finishing.
Ok for me, say I had a very solid team with great defence and midfield, I would go for Shevchenko. He is very consistent. Overall, I would still pick Shevchenko ahead of Henry despite the latter being the better one.

Henry is like the 'dribbler' who uses speed as his strength but Shevchenvo is more like a targetman. Pretty tough choice but i would pick Henry ahead of Shevchenko. Henry can bring more to the team with both assists and goals, compared to Shevchenko. To their respective clubs, Henry is much more important. Look what happened to Arsenal when Henry was missing.

whats wrong with Rooney? his one of the best

i fink henry is used and hoped on too much by arsenal if they dont have him the dont win or score were i think shevachenko is just pure clas best striker in the world in my opinion an i dont fink milan need him as much as arsenal need henry because mian have great players all over the pitch and 4 great goal scoreers were aresenal have up an comin players an onli 1 goal scorer and he does too much on his own so point is sheva better henry more valuable an important to his team

sounds like your saying henry is more valuable, but then you say shev is more valuable
btw, work on your spelling, and punctuation is your friend

anyways, i think henry is a much better player overall, he does just about everything better than shev, and he is much better at getting teammates involved, as well

henry is also more valuable, by far
if shev goes down, they still have kaka, gilardino, seedorf, pirlo, etc.
no doubt, ac milan is a better club + thats why shev is less valuable to his team

Considering that the question is ``who is more valuable for the team´´ i will go for Henry.

But i remember Milan strugling to win a game without shevchenko at 2003-2004 season and at the start of last season , But with gilardino arrival there isnt many problems for milan.




are you serious ? Shevchenko Kills teams like Real Madrid , Barcelona and inter .Henry scores Hat-tricks and toy with defenders of teams like W.B.A and Noroqich , Shevcehnko scores hat-tricks vs teams like Barcelona .

Sheva scored 24 goals at his First season at serie a , Henry was a joke there , Sheva face top quality defenders every single week.

Henry couldnt even Lead his national team to the World cup , Zidane had to comeback and do the job ...

What you said about the Henry part, was dry. France's team is nothing without Zidane. But, Even without Zidane, France is better then Ukraine, it really proves that Henry didn't do nothing for France.

Also, what happened when Inter crushed Arsenal 3-0 in the HIGHBURY?!
Henry didn't do crap! What did SHEVCHENKO do in the UEFA Champions League? He destroyed them with a beautiful header, and a stunning LEFT FOOTED goal.

Henry is a joke when he first arrived the EPL, Sheva scored 24 goals in the SERIE A and, in the EPL, you play mostly more matches!

henry!

No doubt Henry
Henry is the best forward of the world....Shevcenko is a good player but Henry is better in dribbling, skill, assists and he score more goals than Shevcenko, Henry is fantastic pure class, elegance...
Score goals in Milan is very easy with Kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf, Rui Costa, Serginho...

how is there even a comparison .

Sheva has been brilliant for every team he has played for , be it Dynam Kiev(he led that team to a champions league semifinal where they were unlucky to bow out) , be it Ac Milan or Ukraine(he led that team to the world cup singlehandedly)

What has Henry done ?/

Go to Juve - make a fool of himself simply becoz he was not good enough .

For the French national team - does nothing due to which the French national team is overdependent on Zidane and Trezeguet .

For Arsenal , does ok with his brilliant hat-tricks against Portsmouth , wolves , Norwich city etc or his brilliant doubles against sunderland etc .

But chokes in crucial matches which is why Arsenal(which was supposedly the best team in the world during its unbeaten run) can never perform well in Champions league .

He is also one of the main reasons why the French team has been huge underachievers in international competitions .

Henry and sheva - what a joke

Henry score goals vs everyteam: chelsea, manutd, liverpool, newcastle, juventus, inter, bayer monaco, ajax, porto...
In juventus he played as midfield left, he can play in everyleague....
with the france isn't better than zidane but better than trezeguet, in 2003 with the france have win by oneself the confederation cup and with goal scored vs ireland have lead the france to the world cup 2006, in the world cup 98 and in euro 2000 henry was the best scored for the france

Henry moves around the field more than Sheva. He creates oppurtinuties for his players and Sheva just seems to finish himself instead of trying to supply a teamate with a great pass. Henry

Shevchenko is simply in a different class than Henry. Why? Because he performs better on the big stage. He was a HUGE (i wouldnt go so far as to say the only) factor in Ukranine making it to the world cup, he has always been a force in a defensive minded italian league (which btw henry failed in) as well as a huge player in the champions league. Who's Henry big for? Arsenal in England against smaller clubs, thats pretty much it. Granted he does score in the cl and ifor france, but at a much lower rate than against the sunderlands and the west broms of the world.

So, who's better? Sheva. WHo's more important to their team? Henry, because Arsenal are a one-man team.

Ding Ding Ding, you are correct!

Yeah Sheva performs better on the big stage...what did he do in the CL final vs liverpool?? he missed a number of golden opportunities and on top of that he missed the decisive penalty in the penalty shoot out, now to me thats not coming up big for your team at a critical time.

Henry and Shevchenko have roughly the same CL GPG ratio, Henry 39 in 70 having 0.55GPG and Shevchenko having 45 goals in 82 games 0.54 GPG so on the idea that sheva scores more frequently that is not the case. Also Shevchenko has many great players around him which surely would help any player. More importantly Henry rarely goes missing in the CL it is usually the rest of the team, Henry has to carry them most of the time, i'd like to see sheva do that on his own. Did Henry go missing in one of the most important games for france since probably the euro 2000 final? No he scored the goal which effectively secured France a spot at the world cup. I think you answerd the question when you wrote that Arsenal are a one man team.

Mate if you're going to judge shevchenko on one game then there's really not much point in you replying to this thread. You conveniently forget that Sheva scored the winning penalty in another previous CL final. Wow so Henry managed to score in world cup qualifying, how incredible! If Henry well and truly is so incredible, surely he would have been able to bring france singlehandedly into the world cup? No wait, they had to call thuram and zizou out of retirement! Sheva managed to do it with what is generally accepted as being a weaker team. Add to that Henry's failures in 2002 and to a lesser extent in 2004 and i think you get my point. Also what you say oabout sheva being surrounded by great players while henry isnt can be used against you. At arsenal if henry is out they struggle; they basically can't score. So basically when arsenal score, henry scores. At milan, the club is good enough not to have to have everything go through a single player in order to score. Yet shevchenko still manages to be top scorer or near there every season, in a league, i repeat, henry failed to impress in (surprise surprise in a team that didnt rely on him. so what if he was a winger he still sucked). And of those CL goals tell me how many of Henry's goals were scored past the group stage? like 5? Sheva has scored time and again in the latter stages of the competitions, when the FC Thuns and sparta pragues are no longer in the competition for him to beat up on. It's basically the same case in England.

^^^Great post^^^^

Err titi , did u see the champions league final against Liverpool ??

When u say Sheva missed a number of golden oppurtunities , i wonder .

Yes he did miss the penalty but that doesnt make him a choker .

Here is what the Ukraine coach had to say abt Sheva - 'Ukraine has two teams - one with sheva and one without Sheva '

I think that gives one a basic idea abt how good Sheva is .

If he played for an EPl club , he would have been proclaimed the world's best striker over and over again .

Just count how many games Henry has played in the knock out stages of the CL and count the goals, you will find that it is not so bad. Also Henry still scorers against all of Arsenal's rivals, its really getting dated this old belief that the Premier League is an inferior league to La Liga and Serier A, tell me how many goals has sheva scored against the "lesser teams" in serier A? All good strikers score against these teams and score against their rivals.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...nal/4356664.stm
check that link out especially page 7, u will see that Henry does not just score goals vs weaker opposition.

vs Chelsea - 8 goals 0.73GPG, Man Utd - 7 goals 0.64GPG, Liverpool - 6 goals 0.55GPG, Spurs - 4 goals 0.44GPG and Newcastle - 5 goals 0.45GPG THATS 30 GOALS IN 54 GAMES VS RIVALS how can anyone think that this record is poor!. Lets not forget the number of assists he has which is what seperates him from the rest.

As for Ukrain being completly different team with shevchenko and you all talk this up to Sheva's advantage, why is it in you oppinion such a negative for Arsenal to be a one man team, seems to be a bit shortsighted and hypocritical.



As i remeber sheva missed a header in the 6 yrd box and also the series of action which followed that famose dudek save. might i just remind you that these oportunities were almost point blank range.

I am not saying sheva is a chocker, just correcting sum peeps who thinks he delivers all the time and think henry never delivers.

^^ GREAT POST ^^

Henry > Sheva

as much as i don't like him i have to saythat it is henry, simply because arsenal are so poor without him

Henry is slightly better in term of skills and talents , whilst Sheva is more consistent and more reliable ....

Overall career Sheva is a surely better player.

At the moment ... I would pick Henry ... by a single thread ...

Stupid topic in my opinion. There's no way i'd judge anyone against Henry, only Ronaldinho.

And the people who say that Henry only scores against teams like portsmouth, wolves, sunderland, etc are pretty stupid cause that would mean that shevchenko only scores against the top teams in Italy which is total crap. Your jealousy is getting the better of you.

Face it, the guy is a machine.

Right Cesc05!!!!!!!!!! Perfect topic

OMG Says it all mate weres snoop_dog now?!? That has shut everyone up 30 goals in 54 games vs his rivals plus scoring against every good team he has played against says it all.


Ronaldhino is the only player who can test Henry the rest are far behind.

Well done Titi14Zizou10 none can beat that now



Says it all mate if you have nothing to say because you have been proved wrong then please dont post at all.

You know the rules.

Why Henry Doent Play at world class level for France ?

erm Top scorer for France in nearly all major competitions says it all. A striker is judged for his goals right?

Not to mention that he got France through in euro 2000 semi final. World cup 1998 he was very young and played as a winger and not much was expected as he was not world class at that time but still he was top scorer for them.

World cup 02 and euro 04 the whole of france never really played well and Henry got himself sent off so he only played two games.

Things never went for him in those competitions but he still won the winning penalty to make france beat england and still scored two goals.

Its not all his fault just because France as a team are playing poor everyone points the finger at Henry well its a team effort and France should take the blame not Henry.

It depends on your choice. In terms of talent and skill, Henry is better than Shevchenko. Ball control, speed and dribbling. But you cannot deny that Shevchenko is a classier finisher than Henry. He is very consistent. He plays in the toughest league and still manage to get top scorer award. That is some people pick Shevchenko, Ronaldo and Adriano ahead of Henry. Unless Henry leaves Arsenal and goes to a different league like La Liga or Serie A, there will always be this assumption that Henry can only score in Premiership.

Thats rubbish The Premiership is much more tougher then Serie A and La Liga. If you can score goals in the Premiership you can score goals anywere and if Owen can score goals in the La Liga as sub then Henry can score 100.

Henry because i started the topic

Nothing wrong with portsmouth mate, please dont mention us in the same breath as wolves!

Henry is a genius!

Sorry mate, but there are some stubborn people on this site and the shit that they say is so unbelievable.

Owen could ONLY score at Real as SUBS ... because:
1- When he comes in, most players are tired
2- Defenders paid more attention to Ronaldo than to Owen .. so he got chances ...
3- Lastly, you should NOT forget that when Owen started playing full games, then he FAILED ...with only 2goals after 8games as starter ...

In general, it's easier to score in EPL than SeriA and liga (NOT because EPL is a weaker league) because there bad defensive teams ... like Portmouth, Southhampton... Whereas in Seri A and Liga, the bottom teams are very much competitive with eachothers. GOT IT???

for me

Shevchenko: good
Henry: Legend, Awesome, Fantastic, Unique, Brilliant, Stunning, THE BEST.

Now i can understand why some people would think Serie A is ahead of The Premier League in the defensive aspect but La Liga??...I cannot understand why some people think it is a league which is highly rated defensively, it is not! I cannot think of any outstanding La Liga team when it comes to defensive duties, none at all.

pfffffffffffffffff

Maybe Epl Legend !
People who are saying that Shevcehnko is just another striker near Henry Probably dont know Half about Shevcehnko .

People Keep talking about Totti not being a great player because he doesnt perform at the international Level .
So the same should go for Henry ! Disipte Being Scoring Goal at the big tournment ( Which is his Job) he simply Doesnt Perform at the World class level , Especaily when Zidane is not Around .

The World Cup 2002 is an example of It .
The Euro 04 is an Example of It .

But he had a good euro 00 but the italian defenders eclipsed him at the final.

And what about his Serie a Career...There is no excuse for it , he had his chance didnt take it, Shevcehnko had his chance and Took it , By Netting 24 Goals at his FIRST serie a Season , 24 goals the 2nd best Debut only Ronaldo scored more(25).

Arsenal vs Bayern Munique last year Champions League 2nd Round, Ok Henry did score a goal but he was Hardly a constant Threat to Bayerns Defence.

If Henry makes shevchenko look like just another striker or a good striker , so why Henry cant even care his national side to the world cup or Qualify his beloved club to the cl semi-final at least ...

If you look at Shevchenko he has done it , and have done even more, He led Unkraine(There is no players like pires Vieira) there to the world cup , He have Qualified Milan to the Cl final at 2003 , gave his side and important winner vs Barcelona (which allowed them to finish top of the group avoiding sides like chelsea at the second round) scored and Important Home goal vs Psv at cl semi final .

Henry is More important to arsenal than sheva is for milan since THIS season ( coz now they have gilardino inzaghi and vieri) because i remember milan struglling to win a every game without sheva.

In terms of Skills Henry is better than sheva , but who is the better performer ? Shevchenko withou a doubt.

after reading the next few posts i see what you mean!

Haha shows how little you know Henry never played in the final

Sheva was rubbish against Liverpool when it really mattered.

He was not Ukraines best performer.

Get your facts straight before you talk c......

Are you trying to say that Henry didnt feature at France team at he Final ? no He did man and was Eclipsed by Cannavaro and Co. maybe thats why you havent seen him there , If you even Watched the Euro 00.

Sheva was Rubbish vs Liverpool ? Watch the Final again , Shevchenko and Kaka Dominated the Liverpool Defence for more than 90 mintues ( overall time) , and the only Mistake he made was the penalty miss , but Dudek was lucky to get that one , if you dont agree Replays says it all.
But dont Forget that it was Shechenko who sent Milan to the 2003 Final he was Dicisive(Something that Henry is Yet to be on the Big games) and scored the wining penalty against Buffon.

He was not Ukraine best Performer ..?
Sheva ( the captain) Talent alone would single qualify Ukraine to the World Cup for sure but he was KEY.
Shevchenko's talent was complemented by his team-mates determination to be at the World cup especialy(Shovkovski the goal keeper).

I think that Henry is really overrated.
He plays in a league with very poor defenses, is not really the best french striker (Trezeguet is way better), plays in a small team (Arsenal), and did not do anything in italy, where there's challenge.
If Henry was so good, he would play in a great team... At Arsenal, he is the only scorer. So he can score.

Sheva is a genius. He scores tons of goals event versus hard defenses and with lots of other strikers playing with him. It's harder to score lots of goal when you have Gilardino, Inzaghi, Vieri, Kaka at your side!

You sound like someone who just likes having a pop at anything englsih!