So frustrating having the match at the Telstra Dome rather than the 'G. Means i cant go to the match and will have to watch it on tv, hopefully we can somehow recover from that demolition and play at the 'G the week after against North or Geelong

That's more like it Tom

If crows beat hawks and port lose to west coast then it will be a Showdown in Adelaide the week afer which will be massive with the loser going out and the winner to the pre-lim final. Is quite possible that it could actually happen.

edit: Just realised i'm wrong

That would've been the case if Hawthorn won but since they lost whoever wins the hawks v crows match will play the loser of the geelong v kangaroos game. I'll look it all up in the paper tomorrow anyway!

will there be tickets available for the hawthorn-crows match. cus im goin over there and i wanna se a match at the telstra dome.

also it is possible just to buy tickets from the gates for matches at the MCG

responses would be much appreciated

i think tickets for the hawthorn-crows match get released to the general public on wednesday and got released to members today so it could be tough to get in.
im not sure about the match at the MCG

The AFL has announced the initial 40-man squad for the All-Australian Team.

Players selected from each club
Geelong – 9
Hawthorn - 4
Port Adelaide – 4
Brisbane Lions - 4
Kangaroos - 3
St Kilda - 3
Sydney - 3
West Coast - 3
Essendon - 2
Fremantle - 2
Richmond – 2
Adelaide - 1
Western Bulldogs - 1
Carlton - 0
Collingwood - 0
Melbourne - 0

DEFENDERS
Jed Adcock, Brisbane Lions
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 …scored 10.1 … 277 kicks, 98 marks, 178 handballs … averaging 12.6 kicks, 4.5 marks, 8.1 handballs. 32 clearances, 85 Inside 50m, 50 Rebound 50m.

Craig Bolton, Sydney
All-Australian 2006 ... 22 games in 2007 …scored 3.2 … 237 kicks, 135 marks, 106 handballs …averaging 10.8 kicks, 6.1 marks, 4.8 handballs …12 clearances, 28 Inside 50m, 83 Rebound 50m.

Campbell Brown, Hawthorn
Never previously selected … 21 games in 2007 … scored 4.3 … 199 kicks, 116 marks, 108 handballs …. averaging 9.5 kicks, 5.5 marks, 5.1 handballs …six clearances, 26 Inside 50m, 64 Rebound 50m.

Matthew Egan, Geelong
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … 115 kicks, 79 marks, 142 handballs … averaging 5.2 kicks, 3.6 marks, 6.5 handballs … 10 clearances, 10 Inside 50m, 46 Rebound 50m.

Sam Fisher, St Kilda
Never previously selected … 20 games in 2007 … scored 0.2 … 296 kicks, 186 handballs, 110 handballs … averaging 14.8 kicks, 9.3 marks, 5.5 handballs … seven clearances, 44 Inside 50m, 95 Rebound 50m.

Dustin Fletcher, Essendon
All Australian 2000 … 19 games in 2007 ... scored 3.2 … 309 kicks, 144 marks, 85 handballs, averaging 16.3 kicks, 7.6 marks, 4.5 handballs … six clearances, 14 Inside 50m, 130 Rebound 50m.

Darren Glass, West Coast
All Australian 2006 ... 22 games in 2007 … scored 1.1 … 85 kicks, 76 marks, 163 handballs … averaging 3.9 kicks, 3.5 marks, 7.4 handballs … one clearance, three Inside 50m, 30 Rebound 50m.

Roger Hayden, Fremantle
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 3.2 … 230 kicks, 116 marks, 128 handballs …averaging 10.5 kicks, 5.3 marks, 5.8 handballs …11 clearances, 35 Inside 50m. 68 Rebound 50m.

Andrew McLeod, Adelaide
Four-time All-Australian - 1998, 2000, 2001, 2006 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 6.5 … 367 kicks, 81 marks, 171 handballs …averaging 16.7 kicks, 3.7 marks, 7.8 handballs … 20 clearances, 76 Inside 50m, 106 Rebound 50m.

Nick Malceski, Sydney
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 12.5 … 318 kicks, 143 marks, 140 handballs … averaging 14.5 kicks, 6.5 marks, 6.4 handballs …16 clearances, 81 Inside 50m, 102 Rebound 50m.

Darren Milburn, Geelong
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 5.8 … 234 kicks, 155 marks, 260 handballs … averaging 10.6 kicks, 7.0 marks, 11.8 handballs … 15 clearances, 29 Inside 50m, 66 Rebound 50m.

Matthew Scarlett, Geelong
Dual All-Australian - 2003, 2004 … 21 games in 2007 … scored 1.2 … 236 kicks, 96 marks, 113 handballs … averaging 11.2 kicks, 4.6 marks, 5.4 handballs … seven clearances, 25 Inside 50m, 97 Rebound 50m.

FORWARDS
Jonathan Brown, Brisbane Lions
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 77.38 … 239 kicks, 195 marks, 114 handballs … averaging 10.9 kicks, 8.9 marks, 5.2 handballs … 14 clearances, 59 Inside 50m, Two Rebound 50m.

Brett Ebert, Port Adelaide
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 52.23 … 210 kicks, 110 marks, 41 handballs … averaging 9.5 marks, 5.0 marks, 1.9 handballs …four clearances, 70 Inside 50m, Five Rebound 50m.

Lance Franklin, Hawthorn
Never previously selected … 20 games in 2007 … scored 63.57 … 184 kicks, 112 marks, 85 handballs … averaging 9.2 kicks, 5.6 marks, 4.3 handballs …six clearances, 38 Inside 50m, Six Rebound 50m.

Brent Harvey, Kangaroos
Dual All-Australian - 2000, 2005 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 31.15 … 328 kicks, 109 marks, 222 handballs … averaging 14.9 kicks, 5.0 marks, 10.1 handballs … 48 clearances, 95 Inside 50m, 42 Rebound 50m.

Brad Johnson, Western Bulldogs
Five-time All-Australian - 1999, 2000, 2002, 2005, 2006 (captain) … 21 games in 2007 … scored 59.26 … 292 kicks, 165 marks, 114 handballs … averaging 13.9 kicks, 7.9 marks, 5.4 handballs …16 clearances, 64 Inside 50m, 19 Rebound 50m.

Steve Johnson, Geelong
Never previously selected … 17 games in 2007 … scored 41.29 … 241 kicks, 112 marks, 68 handballs ….averaging 14.2 kicks, 6.6 marks, 4.0 handballs …14 clearances, 65 Inside 50m, 17 Rebound 50m.

Corey Jones, Kangaroos
Never previously selected …22 games in 2007 … scored 46.31 … 211 kicks, 94 marks, 92 handballs … averaging 9.6 kicks, 4.3 marks, 4.2 handballs … 20 clearances, 68 Inside 50m, Five Rebound 50m.

Scott Lucas, Essendon
Never previously selected …22 games in 2007 …scored 61.28 … 292 kicks, 159 marks, 66 handballs … averaging 13.3 kicks, 7.2 marks, 3.0 handballs … 71 Inside 50m, 25 Rebound 50m.

Cameron Mooney, Geelong
Never previously selected …22 games in 2007 … scored 55.34 … 213 kicks, 166 marks, 80 handballs … averaging 9.7 kicks, 7.5 marks, 3.6 handballs … 61 Inside 50m. One Rebound 50m.

Matthew Pavlich, Fremantle
Four-time All-Australian - 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006 …22 games in 2007 … scored 72.48 …298 kicks, 203 marks, 83 handballs … averaging 13.5 kicks, 9.2 marks, 3.8 handballs … 11 clearances, 88 Inside 50m, Eight Rebound 50m.

Matthew Richardson, Richmond
Dual All-Australian - 1996, 1999 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 53.40 … 261 kicks, 196 marks, 72 handballs … averaging 11.9 kicks, 8.9 marks, 3.3 handballs … two clearances, 71 Inside 50m, Seven Rebound 50m.

Nick Riewoldt, St Kilda
Dual All-Australian - 2004, 2006 … 20 games in 2007 … scored 42.25 … 293 kicks, 193 marks, 68 handballs … averaging 14.7 kicks, 9.7 marks, 3.4 handballs … nine clearances, 89 Inside 50m, Six Rebound 50m.

MIDFIELDERS / RUCKMEN
Gary Ablett, Geelong
Never previously selected …22 games in 2007 … scored 26.23 … 315 kicks, 87 marks, 270 handballs … averaging 14.3 kicks, 4 marks, 12.3 handballs … 81 clearances, 130 Inside 50m, 47 Rebound 50m.

Jimmy Bartel, Geelong
Never previously selected …20 games in 2007 … scored 15.8 … 291 kicks, 127 marks, 254 handballs … averaging 14.6 kicks, 6.4 marks, 12.7 handballs … 77 clearances, 78 Inside 50m, 52 Rebound 50m.

Joel Corey, Geelong
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 7.9 … 301 kicks, 105 marks, 281 handballs …averaging 13.7 kicks, 4.8 marks, 12.8 handballs …117 clearances, 103 Inside 50m, 40 Rebound 50m.

Chad Cornes, Port Adelaide
All-Australian 2004 …. 22 games in 2007 … scored 16.10 … 380 kicks, 159 marks, 182 handballs … averaging 17.3 kicks, 7.2 marks, 8.3 handballs …56 clearances, 99 Inside 50m, 82 Rebound 50m.

Kane Cornes, Port Adelaide
All-Australian 2005 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 9.9 … 317 kicks, 151 marks, 296 handballs … averaging 14.4 kicks, 6.9 marks, 13.5 handballs … 61 clearances, 72 Inside 50m, 51 Rebound 50m.

Dean Cox, West Coast
Dual All-Australian - 2005, 2006 …19 games in 2007 … scored 11.9 … 203 kicks, 136 marks, 147 handballs … averaging 10.7 kicks, 7.2 marks, 7.7 handballs …439 hit outs, averaging 23.1 hit outs … 44 clearances, 62 Inside 50m, 42 Rebound 50m.

Nick Dal Santo, St Kilda
All-Australian 2005 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 9.9 … 290 kicks, 66 marks, 182 handballs … averaging 13.2 kicks, 3 marks, 8.3 handballs … 71 clearances, 77 Inside 50m, 53 Rebound 50m.

Luke Hodge, Hawthorn
All-Australian 2005 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 23.14 … 303 kicks, 122 marks, 205 handballs, averaging 13.8 kicks, 5.5 marks, 9.3 handballs …77 clearances, 87 Inside 50m, 51 Rebound 50m.

Nathan Foley, Richmond
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 6.6 … 246 kicks, 46 marks, 286 handballs …averaging 11.2 kicks, 2.1 marks, 13.0 handballs … 105 clearances, 71 Inside 50m, 38 Rebound 50m.

Daniel Kerr, West Coast
Never previously selected … 17 games in 2007 … scored 8.11 … 223 kicks, 46 marks, 238 handballs … averaging 13.1 kicks, 2.7 marks, 14.0 handballs. 89 clearances, 58 Inside 50m, 40 Rebound 50m.

Brett Kirk, Sydney
All-Australian 2004 ... 22 games in 2007 … scored 7.5 … 207 kicks, 75 marks, 283 handballs … averaging 9.4 kicks, 3.4 marks, 12.9 handballs … 118 clearances, 56 Inside 50m, 26 Rebound 50m.

Brendon Lade, Port Adelaide
All-Australian 2006 …22 games in 2007 …scored 15.5 …181 kicks, 113 marks, 89 handballs … averaging 8.2 kicks, 5.1 handballs, 4.0 handballs …469 hit outs averaging 21.3 hit outs … 51 Clearances, 47 Inside 50m, 25 Rebound 50m.

Nigel Lappin, Brisbane Lions
Four-time All-Australian - 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 … 18 games in 2007 … scored 4.6 … 257 kicks, 85 marks, 225 handballs … averaging 14.3 kicks, 4.7 marks, 12.5 handballs …83 clearances, 69 Inside 50m, 45 Rebound 50m.

Cameron Ling, Geelong
Never previously selected … 21 games in 2007 … scored 27.4 … 192 kicks, 94 marks, 225 handballs … averaging 9.1 kicks, 4.5 marks, 10.7 handballs …45 clearances, 52 Inside 50m, 23 Rebound 50m.

Hamish McIntosh, Kangaroos
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 10.10 … 229 kicks, 101 marks, 124 handballs … averaging 10.4 kicks, 4.6 handballs, 5.6 handballs …411 hit outs, averaging 18.7 hit outs … 45 clearances, 80 Inside 50m, 27 Rebound 50m.

Sam Mitchell, Hawthorn
Never previously selected … 21 games in 2007 … scored 2.3 … 238 kicks, 117 marks, 305 handballs … averaging 11.3 kicks, 5.6 marks, 14.5 handballs … 109 clearances, 79 Inside 50m, 32 Rebound 50m.

ORGASM!!!

i got tickets to Pies-Swans, Hawks-Crows along with aussies playin argentina

Nice work.
I got tickets to Hawthorn-Adelaide, might go to Kangaroos-Geelong if i feel like it on Sunday.
God i cannot wait for Australia-Argentina, its going to be awesome just to see Messi let alone all the other players

Has anyone seen how the votes went for the rising star award? Everyone put Selwood first and Pendlebury second except for one guy who had it the other way around.

yeh well full credit to those 2 selwood and pendulbury

theyve had exceptional years and they have looked like theyve been playin the AFL for 10 years

selwoods speech was pretty cute too (not too sound wierd or anything) but the way he was almost in tears when talkin bout his parents

Should've heard eddie mcguire go off on Adelaide radio this arvo. He was pissed off that no Collingwood players are in that 40 man sqaud

hahahahahaha eddies such an idiot although i think heath shaw may of deserved a mentions other then that hes really got no point in complainin

Yeah, but Eddie probably thinks that Buckley deserved to be in the squad. He's such a puller.

Congrats to Selwood, fully deserved.

im a tiger. Go richmond! lol we ended up bottom of the ladder this season, but we started to pick up our game towards the end of the season

Hawks-Crows was fucking fantastic. At 3/4 time i was like were fucked, but with seven seconds left Franklin scores his 7th. His a fucking legend.

what an absolute classic, one of the greatest matches seen unfortunatly my eagles didnt win it. weve failed to close out the last 3 matches and it cost big time

anywho looking ahead to next year. fully fit Judd, Kerr and Cousins......i cant wait!

What an awesome game for a neutral. Never expected it to go to extra time, and what a classic it was

Was a good game in terms of how close it was but some of the skills could've been better. Still think Geelong will smash Collingwood this week, although they're lucky that it's on the MCG which is thier home ground. So many close games in the finals again this year.

why is this thread so dead? theres so much happeningin the world of afl. first off

Farewell Chris Judd (and rebecca twigley)
i was so sad so see him return to melbourne, but still what a champion and he has won everything with my eagles over just 6 years amazing that. i still remain confident a judd-less eagles can challenge in a premiership next year.

only 4 teams left! huge huge match probly bigger then the final itself Gellong - Pies on friday night. and the other less interesting match roos n port

all australian selection tonight, not gonna make my team although i expect jonathan brown to be named captian

So upset with the Hawks

Hodge, Mitchell and Franklin better make the AAT

I can understand Judd's decision, he's done it all at West Coast already and now wants to go back home. It also seems like West Coast may not be right up there as in the past as was seen this year so he probably sees it as a good time to get out, although they still have a very decent sqaud.

Here's a good article which discusses his options.

How is the Geelong v Collingwood game bigger than the grand final? Collingwood are going to get absolutely hammered, and everyone apart from Pies fans will thoroughly enjoy it. Boringly, I predict a Geelong v Port Adelaide GF, with the Cats winning by a fair margain, maybe 6 or so goals.

Sam Mitchell won't make the All Australian team, and neither should Franklin. No doubt he's immensely talented and already is a good player, but he is one for the future and if you look at his season purely on its merits, he shouldn't make the All Australian team. It wouldn't suprise me if he did though, the selecters are retarded. The fact that Nick Riewoldt even made the 40 player short list makes me sick to my stomach. He is perhaps the most overrated footballer in the past decade that I can remember.

I hope Nathan Foley makes the team, he's a fantastic player on a shithouse team, he deserves to be picked, but because of who he plays for and where they finished he won't. I don't expect anyone to agree with me on this, mostly because he gets next to zero press.

As for the Judd situation, I think the only place he can go is Carlton. They're the only Melbourne club who have something the Eagles would be interested trading for (I'm thinking Fev, pick 1 and pick 3 would be fair) and have room in their salary cap for Judd. I'm praying that the Eagles can't broker a deal with anyone for him so he goes to the pre-season draft where Richmond have the number one pick

anyone know how much say judd gets in the choice of clubs?

and i think franklin deserves AA cus he plays as a small foward as well as a leading mark target. and tbh there has not been that many fowards who have had great years so i think franklin should

Where was the shortlist for it? And whens does it gets drawn?

Judd at Hawthorn would be immense, would be great to replace Richie who im going to miss so much, but just wont happen. I dont know why Richie retired though. He was only 30 but his decision i guess.

gets drawn tonite doesnt it? and franklin is in the shortlist

Apparently this is the team so far that's been announced:

B: Scarlett (Geel), Glass (WCE), Milburn (Geel)

HB: McLeod (Adel), Egan (Geel), Brown (Haw)

C: K Cornes (PA), Bartel (Geel), C Cornes (PA)

Ruck: Cox (WCE), Kerr (WCE), G Ablett (Geel)

HF: Johnson (Geel), Brown (Bris), Harvey (Kang)

FF: Johnson (WB), Pavlich (Frem), Mooney (Geel)

Hodge doesnt make it. Typical. The boys been immense

And finally to make the sqaud complete:

INT: Corey (Geel), Fletcher (Ess), Lade (PA), Ling (Geel)

So that makes 8 Geelong players then.

cox, kerr and glass all deserve it, full credit boys!

I count 9. I think all Geelong player that were in the 40 man squad made the team. Pretty impressive.

I'm just glad Campbell Brown made it, if he hadn't been selected then it would have been a complete farce, best small back in the competition by a long way

Ah yes you would be correct Will. I Think i forgot one of the bench players.

Wonder if it's any indication that Ablett may get quite a few brownlow votes taken off him by the other Geelong players given many of them had good seasons. He is under the umpires eye though a lot and stands out so he will still get a lot of votes regardless I guess.

Yeah, I don't think players like Scarlett and Egan, as good as they are, will poll many Brownlow votes.

I only got back from a cadet camp last night and have been confronted with all of this news about Judd. Geez, I never actually thought he would leave.

Collingwood v Geelong is pretty tight at the moment. Still anyones game with not long to go which is what you want to see in a pre-lim final.

i stand by my statement that the geelong - collingwood match is going to be bigger then the grand final, outstanding match abletts goal in the 4th was chriss judd-like

Geelong deserve to be in the grand final so it was only fitting that they won. 2nd pre-lim final about to start now. Feel like I'm the only person in Adelaide more interested in the Wellington v Adelaide United match compared to Port v Kangaroos which are on at the same time!

Collingwood-Geleong was one of the best games ive seen. So intense. Me and my cousin were watching it and he was a Pies supporter. Loved evry minute of the game

Brownlow Medal tomorrow night so who is everyones favourite for the award?

Obviously Ablett, but i wouldnt count out Chad Cornes, Jimmy Bartel and Sam Mitchell tbh

id hate it if boomer harvey wins it. my top 5-

ablett
bartel
kerr
brown/cornes
mitchell

Also Rebecca Twigley for best dressed is my tip if previous years are anything to go by

Theres no more International Rules is there?

Din't know actually. Don't think there is. Anyway well done to Jimmy Bartel on winning the brownlow, fine effort indeed.

yeh congratulations to jimmy bartel he completely deserved and had a stellar year. although i thought ablett got robbed of a few like when he had 35 touches against brisy and only poll 1

i wanted to write this yesterday but something fucked up anywho i saw jimmy the week before they played collingwood, he was eating lunch with fev at fevs resteraunt. i said 'good luck mate' and he said 'thanks mate, apreciate it' nice moment

Ye Jimmy been on fire. Good on him.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ccJ24Vqv_TI&...ted&search=

Ill never forget that moment

GO CATS! even though im an eagles supporter i cannot stand port and i hope geelong gives them an almighty touchup. however its going to be a very tough game to find a clear winner and i think itll only be won by under 10 points

^ LOL how wrong you were!!

Geelong by a massive 119 points. They have done the quadruple. Well in Cats!

Just work up in time for the game to see it start. Absolutely thrashed them. Looked like men against boys at times. Cats really deserved it so was pleased for them.

haha yeh but im happy with the outcome, best team all year deserves it

lol i won $75 on cam mooney kickin 1st goal