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tarsey1989
sunday i was playing for my local team, and i went to take a corner in my vapors and had to put more effort to get the yards. basically i have world cups pulses and vapors is there really much of a difference in how much power you can get with each boot?
niterida09
PULSES give more power definitely. U have more control ove the ball. Some say its a gimmick but i have both cleats and id say the poweswerve and the lead inserts or w/e it s called works
Silverspeed
I say your technique gives you more power, i can lace the ball damn hard in my Vapors just as i could in any other boot.

you just have to adjust the technique between diffrent styles some times there shouldnt be any diffrance.
tarsey1989
thanks, how much is the difference? in terms of yards because i really like my vapors atm because they are the newest lol,
niterida09
not much- how many yards do you need. The yardage comes from you id say. The lead in the powerpulse doesnt make THAT much of a difference when it come to yards. JUst kik wit ur instep and it should go about the same.
Now U C ME
the pulses definitely get more power because they have more weight not to mention the powerpulse technology. i had the same problem when i switched from pulse to vapor 2.
tarsey1989
COL3 what did you do about it? did you stick with the vapors switch back to predators or just build up the muscles in your legs?
Now U C ME
naa i stuck with my vapors cuz i loved em. i just fixed up my shooting technique. no big deal. it just needs some gettin used to. just go out and practice with em.
ejteK
Maybe something to do with the material?

Vapor - Synthetic
World Cup - K
Pulses - K
Juventus_supporter
I have both and they seem pretty much the same, maybe i kick better with the pulse but thats cause of the material, its a bit old and hardened up so i'm not afried to put all my power behind the shot!
anfz
Personally i think it makes no difference as ive had loads of boots,ive got vapor 2's at the moment and have by far the hardest shoot going around,Its more so the technique than anything else
b3ans
I've heard this many times, and i remeber when SP was a bit smaller, there were heaps of topics like this. In short what I'd like to is that every boot, has a different fit. Therefore if you had a good technique before, all you have to do is adjust to the boot, and because the technique is already there, you should be able to get the kick right.

And then theres the people who buy the boot to improve something. Aint going to happen. The more you train, the better your technique will be.

And a bit off topic, but after 11 years of playing football (Im 16) i still can't get my inside foot passing perfect. It may be alright for my situation, but compared to other kids in the world its SHIT. One of the reasons may be because im pidgeon toed, but this is what my coach told me. "No exuses sir!"

Ken
Timho
i have got manias and vapors and i must say that with the vapors i can shoot best. they fit my feet perfectely and are not too thick so i have the best feelling for the ball!
nunataker
pulses definatly give a bit more power
Lampard123
Having strong legs and and a good technique gives you power,no boots can do this.People can argue with me all they want but i know i'm right whistling.gif
rkuchinsky
QUOTE(niterida09 @ Mar 1 2006, 08:52 PM) *

not much- how many yards do you need. The yardage comes from you id say. The lead in the powerpulse doesnt make THAT much of a difference when it come to yards. JUst kik wit ur instep and it should go about the same.


ha. this topic seems to come up every few months or so. here was my reply last time it was discussed. take it for what you will...

someone quoted a +3km speed difference to the predator pulse element (the weight we are talking about). I dont know where that number came from but in any case, think about the following...

For example,
The Beckham goal vs. Greece in World Cup Qualifiers.

kick stats

The kick was from 27m away, and way clocked at a max speed of 36M/s

lets forget spin for now and assume the ball doesnt slow down (which it actually does- this is the effect of the spin).

The ball going this speed into the goal would take 0.75 to get into the net.

If the increase by using predator is 3kmh (the above post said 2-3, but lets be generous), this is equivalent to 0.83M/s

Therefore, if this increase was applied on top of the max ball speed in Beck's kick (i know he was using Preds already, but anyhow), the ball would then be going max 36.83M/s. This is only 0.02% faster.

The difference this makes in the time it takes the ball to get into the goal is 0.02s. Therefore it scores in 0.73s vs. 0.75s

Average human physical reaction time (recoginition plus brain lag plus movement is 0.4-0.8s)

Physical Reaction Times

You can see then, that any increase in speed would make no difference in reaction by the keeper. In fact, if you think about, the entire reason a goal like this is successful is that the time it takes to score is really close to the limit of human reaction time. Even in a trained keeper.

So Pulse making any significant difference? I would doubt it.

Just my 0.02$ and a little quick math. wink.gif
Ronaldohino~107
Try Total 90s they're nasty. The ball explodes off my foot, and they have good handles.
dw1118
i'll just say what the smart ppl in this topic have already pointed out.
if you want more yards, do some weight training. how far you can kick is all in your legs, not the stupid power thing that preds have. i can kick just as far in vapors as i can kick in pred pulses. what shoes you wear should depend on comfort and how they complement your playing style, not power or speed.
if you want power, get stronger.
tarsey1989
i know bout the weight training just seemed to get less distance and power than i normally did so was curious, looks like its back to the gym:)
tarsey1989
i know bout the weight training just seemed to get less distance and power than i normally did so was curious, looks like its back to the gym:)
     
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