Guys,
How come alot of Munich fans dont like Ballack? Is it just because he refuses to sign a contract or are there other reasons? Just curious!

Thanks,

Danny

Well, to me the main point is that Ballack isn't sympathic to me.
He is also considered as our best german player by far, like we had no better players before he came to Bayern. The hype that makes him better than he even is makes it really annoying.

The contract stories just make me feel that money matters more in his choice than the club itself.
In case that the reports of Ballack joining Chelsea come true, making him the best paid player in Europe(and therefore overpaid by miles), I wouldn't be surprised.
Would be just what I, and I guess many others aswell, expected.

I see, I've seen only CL games and limited FC Bayern games, like two or three, so in total maybe ten games in total of Micheal, he is very class, is there any other reason why Bayern fans do not like him? For such a big player he doesnt seem to be liked by his own fans :S

Overall, I can just speak for myself, the main points are
1. he is not likelable (or how is it called in english?) to me
2. he appears to be in hunt for money, looking on that whole contract shite.
we all know that he is THE man only at Bayern, won't get even close to that status anywhere else IMO.
therefore money looks like a main point
3. hype a la "How bad would we(Germany) be without Michael Ballack?"

3 points that I absolutely can't stand.

I dont like the way he plays.He scores many goals yes, but dont contribute much more to the game(for Bayern,for Germany he plays good).I think that Bayern plays better football without him,because we play faster and dont use so many high balls for his big head .Also like energy said the hype in Germany about him is annoying and totaly undeserved.
Well i hope he leaves Bayern, but somehow i got a feeling he is going nowhere.Where should he go?Real dont want him,Chelsea dont need him(im sure the speculations about him moving there will be over soon) and he dont want to go to Inter...

How could I forget that he is kind like Makaay?
Shows up from time to time in terms of scoring, is a phantom at stages afterwards.
Make it point 4 then.

Would like to see this going nowhere paer become true, then he possibly would beg for a new contract at Bayern. Let Hoeness say "No way!" and we have had the longest show of punk'd ever .
I think Bayern will resign him though.

Yea for only half the money though, because they gave new contracts to Lucio and Deisler. They're better off without him though imo. Hate his playing style.

OT: You realize that Lattek has to pay for the beer if he goes to Chelsea?

Right, let him go if he wants. If he thinks he has to go to Chelsea, I wouldn't mind.
Lattek pays the beer then (which he should do anyway ), we have rid of the annoying stories and Ballack himself can try to prove himself somewhere else.

His playing style is what..? Sorry guys just curious and want to find out a bit more indepth about the player

i didn´t like him at Kaiserslautern, it got worse with Leverkusen and now i still don´t like him that much. i still say he is overrated, i think he should get booked every 2nd game for his "talking" and he sometimes just clicks and plays pretty dirty. not the kind of player i want to watch or support.

You still gotta admit Ballack is the best German player for the past 4 years and it's such a fact that without him Leverkusen wouldn't reach the CL 2001/2002 finals, Germany wouldn't reach the WC2002 finals, Bayern wouldn't win as many games (this season especially). He may not play the most beautiful football, not the best attitude, not the most loyal, but no one can deny he is one of the most dangerous attacking midfielders in the world. His finishing could be as good as any world class striker, he scores goals and that's how you win games.

About his contract situation, I think it's quite similar to Henry, it's not about money but he is just leaving his choices open ATM and observing what his team can offer him in terms of footballing achievements. Ballack has already stated he wanted to join a team who can win the CL. No one is bigger than the team but everyone has his rights to realise his dreams.

If he has been unsure till yesterday, I think now hes sure of leaving Munich cause with this team you cant go too far in Europe...
And players like Deisler will never be able to lead a midfield... Hes so frightened all the time and as soon as 2 defenders get near him he passes the ball to an opponent... Pretty intersting now what will happen with Bayern as everyone is mad now.

Btw the German watchers: DId you see how much shitload Magath said after the game in an interview. Hes worse than Mourinho(who actually has style still) and i lost all my a respect for Magath... How can you get better when you never think you did anything wrong and never criticize your team.

My thoughts 100%.

At Leverkusen i liked him.He was real class back then.He played DM and thats in my opinion where he belongs.

Magath was poor yesterday indeed.
His point about the penalty that changed it all completely in the 1st leg was nothing but the truth. That was the moment that kciked it from good to bad.

Big time game by Ballack yesterday, as expected.
Hype doesn't mean to show up when its needed most , only dicussing with the ref doesn't win you the game but well, Ballack still hasn't noticed that.

Effenberg wasn't a great player but a leader at least, wouldn't have played like the phantoms Ballack and Makaay.
Let him leave, with a guy like Ballack we will never win the CL anyway, it takes guys like Effenberg, Carragher or Gattuso who really go for it.

Every one who comnplains all the time and give everybody else the blame will never reach a lot..and this is sadly a german nation wide tradition - WE WHINE in general.

Ballack is one of those players that uses both feet well, he can take long far out shots well and is known to be a deadly header of the ball. Yes sometimes he drifts and disappears during the game as this also happens to other big players but he has a big record of scoring. His stats for the German team last time i checked were 60 games and 29 goals not to mention he scored those only goals in the quater and semi final (world cup) to put Germany through to the final.

BTW as Soccer is an american term for football is Soccerpulse a US based football site?

I read today he is definetly leaving Bayern Great News

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=36...door+on+Ballack

Good news there mate .
Money means much to many people, looks like Ballack is among them. Glad we didn't resigned him.

i say the same as i said about ronaldo. if a player ha his heart and mind set to leave, nobody can keep him. he would never play with the same passion if he really wants to leave. so, if he wants to leave, because that is what makes him happy, then i wish him all the best at his new club and say thanks for what he did for bayern. but you can´t stop a moving player.

Im sure its not completely about the money either, Im sure he (and many would agree) thinks that Bayern aren't capable of winning the champions league anytime soon, and they keep taking the Bundesliga with relative ease, he may be seeking a new challenge, its not uncommon.

He is in the final years of his career (he may not play too much after 33) this will be his last chance to be in a mega big club like Chelsea who have amassed a big line up that can in the near future win CL and Mourinho always seems to bring out the best in his players despite being a twit.

Ballack + Mourinho + Chelsea = hardest team to knockout of Champs League

ballack would be better off going to real, probably. i don't see it working when ballack and lampard are playing at the same time.

It is understandable that Ballack wants to get a good contract.
Bayern manager Uli Hoeness is right though IMO by saying that money matters more than the team/country he plays in. Meanwhile everybody seems to got it but Ballack and his manager still say that money doesn't have the big priority.

Exactly my thoughts.

Ìf Chelsea leaves Lampard on the bench for Ballack they are crazy! But both together won´t work! But i don´t care as long as he leaves us, i can´t see him anymore!

i can see ballack play in england, but i doubt he will fit into chelsea. the moment he will realize it, it will be too late. lampard has that position in and they won´t bench him. ballack going to chelsea MIGHT be the same as owen going to madrid. i hope i am wrong, but i can see ballack back at the bundesliga in a few months, playing for schalke or so

The thing about Ballack is that he is a 'lazy' player who drifts off during a game. But the important part of being a good player is that he is a leader and he comes out strong during pressure packed games... well most of the time.

My playing style is exactly like his, I won't make an obvious effort (I don't have as much stamina as my other teammates) but I will do what I have to do when the time is right.

I just read earlier today that Gary Lineker doesn't thinks that Ballack is a leader.
Lineker might not be the man who knows it best but I think he has a point. As you said Ballack shows up in big games most of the time.
I feel anyway that he lacks leadership and also the menatality that guys like Effenberg had, those attitude to show the Roy Keane's of this world that they won't have a nice second all game long.
I think Ballack leads more by his quality than by his mentality. He does his thing well but it doesn't seems to be what Bayern need in the CL these days.

Mourinho seems to think Ballack is a very good player and has distinctly said he would like to see 2 world class player like Lampard and Ballack playing together. I'll find the quote. I agree with Mourinho.

"Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho says he would love Germany captain Michael Ballack to join the English champions.

"I want him [Ballack]," Mourinho told Monday's issue of German mass-selling daily Bild. "He has said he needs time before making a decision. I respect that. Now it's up to him."

Ballack's contract with Bayern Munich expires at the end of the season. The 29-year-old midfielder's agent has said he is very interested in a move to Chelsea.

"For me he's one of the best players in the world," Mourinho, who was in Germany at the weekend, said of Ballack.

"He's very intelligent, tactically very strong and he scores a lot of goals. For me in Europe there's only [England and Chelsea's] Frank Lampard who plays at that level. The two would form a dream pair.""

http://www.rediff.com/sports/2006/mar/14mour.htm


Also in terms of leadership Kahn has more than Ballack.