Roid's wouldnt extend someone's career they would ruin it as when you take it your basicly resulting in growth in the tissues of your body and theres only so much growth that your body can handle.

Also roids casue:

Elevated blood pressure

Enlargement of the heart - The heart is a muscle and thus affected by the muscle-building qualities of the hormones. The enlargement increases the risk of an adverse cardiac event occurring in later life.

Liver damage - Caused particularly by oral anabolic steroid compounds which are 17-alpha-alkylated in order to not be destroyed by the digestive system.

For a professional sports person somehow i dont think he would risk endangering his heart like that

^^Thats assuming that you're juicing up like every day or whatever. I doubt Bonds was sneaking into the clubhouse inbetween at bats to stick a needle in his ass...



Its the steroids that allow him to do it now too. How do you think he has that bat speed now? Look at the skinny Barry of early 90's or whatever when he was with the Pirates. His swing is so much slower, whatever he took gave him the strength to speed up the swing and pull balls out of the park, I dont think you can argue that.

Whether it was actually steroids or not, if he took them knowingly, whatever, I dont even care anymore Im sick of it. Whats pissing me off now is how theres all the hubbub about Bonds hitting 714, wooo 2nd all time. He's probably going to retire at the end of the season anyways and not even break the record.

Im done with Bonds, im gonna start my own milestone watch: Richie Sexson is only 1587 strike outs away from breaking the all time record. At his pace, he should smash the record in about 7 years, and he's only getting worse!

Steroids dont give you more energy??...with all those side effects I wonder why athletes take them. Oh I know why, because they want to play, faster/stronger/longer...all of thos side effects definitely come aboot but usually they start hurting you later on in your life when your body starts deteriorating at a faster pace...

Back to my point aboot Bonds being a grade A dick. Before he hit the 713 hr, he said that I hope the guys who catch them make alot of money off of the. So you cant make the excuse of, "oh he doesnt want them to make money off of him" (not saying anyone would, but just in case)...so he hits the 713th hr against the Phillies and a guy catches it. The guy qho got the ball is a serviceman. A man who is in the armed forces and is fighting for your fucking right to live the way you do. Anyway, the guy gets the ball and went to do what everyone thought would be done. He went to Bonds and asked him to sign the ball. What did Barry do exactly???...He told the guy straight up "NO!"...Now I can understand having a policy of not signing balls for fans before or after matches, in the street when your trying to take it easy. But this is the ball where you are within 1 to maybe the greatest player to ever play the game, and you tell the guy no. My reasoning is that he is just a bad guy. Plain and simple he is a bad person, and if anyone still doubts that just remember that when he was in college at Arizona, his teammates voted to kick him off the team.

So you guys are saying that players cannot improve? that just because a player was skinny and had a slow swing at one point they cant learn to quicken their bat? baseball is all about adjustments. Its like if I say that a pitcher who used to throw 99mph ten years ago cannot possibly become a finesse pitcher later on. If he did take steroids they did give him more power, theres no doubt about that, but again: if theres no rule against it (as was the case during the '98-'03 home run era) than why wouldnt a player do something that would give them an edge?

This is not a big deal, it became a big deal when congress decided that they have nothing better to do than to meander into the daily habits of athletes. It worked though, Barry Bonds and Jason Giambi are now villains and we all forgot about the shitty state of the economy. Its all politics.

Have you seen Barry hit after the whole steroids thing? (when he stopped taking them) he gets nothing to hit, he might get two good balls to swing at per game and those are the only pitches he swings at. He has the best vision at the plate of any other player in the Majors, he gets maybe eight pitches to hit per week and he manages to hit at least a home run every week? who else can do that?

I dont like defending Bonds, I mean he is barely a baseball player: he wears more armour than a medieval knight and he cant catch for shit (look back at the 2002 World Series, game seven, he cost the Giants the championship with his lack of defense) but this is history we're watching here. Babe Ruth was an alcoholic, David Wells was on LSD when he pitched his perfect game, The Beatles were on drugs on every album from Revolver on. So what? you want to give back the single season record to Mark Mcguire? a guy who was just as juiced as Barry allegedly was...or do you want to give it back to Roger Maris in the 1960's when pitchers did not have the arsenals or bionic arms that they have now?

There are no clean records in baseball, perhaps the only one is Hank Aaron's all time home run mark, so in that respect it will be a shame if Barry breaks it but Barry seems to have too much respect for baseball's past and if he was aided by human growth hormone or whatever than I'm sure he'll quit before he reaches Aaron.

Just because Ruth was an Alcoholic/womanizer/and all the other stuff he was, it didnt really matter when it came to his playing the game. He played the same way his entire career and never did something to mess up the integrity of the game. He also never disrespected the fans the way Mr. Bonds does. You know what when bonds broke that recored I supported him because I was a Bonds fan earlier in his career, but when i hear what he's like to his fans, it really does make me sick.

Yes I would rather McGwire have the record because even though he is a roid head, at least hes better to the people that support him. Bonds doesnt give a rat's ass if he plays to an empty stadium or not as long as he gets payed and people leave him alone. Even his teammates in San Francisco hardly talk to him...

I dont know many people who dislike Jason Giambi, because although he did use, he has shown remorse, he has admitted to it and again he isnt a damn jerk to the people paying his paycheck.

I know its a little too much fire, but these athletes would be no where without us and to see shit from him is just...blah!

There is not doubting he is a great hitter, but with the addition of Steroids he becamse an unbelievable hitter...

Let it be known: Barry Bonds is an asshole, nobody in their right mind will defend that. I certainly wont, but I dont demerit his accomplishments just for being an asshole.

Roid's do give you more energy it allows you to train for longer periods of time, and makes you do things that you wouldnt be able to do.


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As for Bonds he can be a dick well each person has there own reason for not signing things.

When Cal Ripkin was at the Skydome (his last game in Toronto) i waited by the third base side for like an hour just to get his autograph while you had people behind me who had only been there for like 5min and had a pic of him signed like 5-6 times by Ripkin pushing me to get another one. Ripkin saw that they were pushing me and signed my hat while he told the people pushing me that he wouldnt sign there picture again.


EDIT: Pujols hit his 18th HR of the season, and in pace to break Bond's record now the question is if Pujols breaks the record (big IF) will people think hes on roid's or will it go down to his talent?

nice story...

If Im not mistaken Pujols has been tested on many occasions and hes never come up positive. Pujols is a great overall player. Not just batting wise, but also with his outfield play. He could probably play almost every outfield position, very versatile. Modest too...I would love to see him break it, but I doubt it...if it was it would be for his talent...

I have no doubt that Pujols doesnt take roid's, it just that he's hitting them at an alarming rate it will prolly make some people think.

could be, but I doubt he'd decline taking one...and he is still very young...

here is an article aboot the Phillies Cole Hamels...just look at his numbers in triple-A they are incredible....



Damn I am so anxious for this friday...he's going to be up against some tough competition, but theyve never seen him before so itll be interesting. He fills a great need, the Phillies starting pitching has sucked and he is an acutual quality LEFT HANDED PITCHER!!!...haha you dont know how much that makes the fans here happy....

tbh i wouldnt mind meeting Pujol's trainer

Phillies suck and you want some stats B.J Ryan of the Jays in 15 games has only a 0.54 era, given up 6 hits, 1 run, struck out 18 in 16.2 innings pitched and is 8 for 8 in saves and lastly batters are only hitting .113.

haha, you and me both...

Ryan sounds great, so yea, Ryan for Abreu sounds great, sign me up...

Ahaha not a chance

So the Cubs wanted to start shit today and then proceeded to lose their fifth straight game to the Padres.

I am not going to lie the Padres are doing well there, and can someone explain to me how the jays can take 2 wins of 3 from the likes of Boston and the Yankees but ALWAYS seem to loose against the Devil Rays?

its politics mate, its all politics.

And the Padres arent doing great, they're doing phantasmagorically great! they made it a 12-1 May with their sixth straight win against the Cubs today, a rather great win: they were down 3-1 in the ninth and Mike Piazza hits a three run home run. Too bad for the little bears.

and nice to see that after being in last place on april 30th we are in first on may 13.

another season of interleague play starts today. Cant wait to watch the cubs sox series. lets go cubbies

Interleague play is starting much earlier this year isnt it?

The rivalry series are always the best'

Yanks-Mets
Giants-A's
Cubs-White Sox
Cardinals-Royals
Rangers-Astros
Nats-Orioles
Dodgers-Angels
Reds-Indians
Marlins-Rays

And then theres the rivalries that are not local but have gained notoriety, like San Diego-Seattle. And then theres the rivalries like Colorado-Toronto and you just get to thinking...what the fuck?

I am glad to see the performances by the Dodgers and Mariners this weekend... good stuff.

Speaking of baseball rivalry i do miss the Jays vs Expos games

Great Subway Series game last night, with Tommy Glavine getting career win number 282 aged 40. He should reach that omnipotent milestone of 300 with another season after this one at this rate. He'd have to pick up 18 more wins this season to get it, which is highly unlikely, despite the Mets' great start.

Talking of milestones, Bonds clubbed 714 on saturday. Legend. So glad he hit it in the Bay as well, would hate to have seen him get booed equalling the Babe, notwithstanding the fact he's a tosser.

Pujols has hit homers in his last 3 games, making it 6 in 10 and a whopping 22 by the 21st May - over half the amount he hit in 160 games last season in about 40 this. Phenomenal, and shows no signs of abating either.

Glavine on his day is a hell of a pitcher, with him and Maddox imo possibly made the best 1-2 combo in baseball the back bone of those Braves teams. 300 wins for a pitcher is a feat, now days you possibly wont find any one in baseball who will win 300 games the playing field has risen.

For example look at Zito he has only 87 career wins already under his belt this is his sixth full year in the bigs, and he'd have to maintain the pace he set over his first five seasons -- 15.8 wins per -- over this and the subsequent 13 seasons to get there.

Also Tim Hudson (106 career wins at age 30), Cardinals lefty Mark Mulder (98 at 28), Astros righty Roy Oswalt (84 at 28), White Sox righty Freddy Garcia (100 at 29) and White Sox lefty Mark Buehrle (86 at 27).

Hudson, for instance, would have to maintain his pace of 15.6 wins per season through 2018 to reach 300. Mulder, who from 1999-2004 teamed with Zito and Hudson to form Oakland's "Big Three," is on a 17.4-win pace that he'd need to keep up for nearly 12 more years.

Throw Twins lefty Johan Santana (59 wins -- and a Cy Young -- at age 27) into the aforementioned class, too. His chances are hurt by the fact that he was used in relief for part of his first four seasons in the bigs, but if he can dominate as he has for the past two seasons -- an average of 18 wins a year -- for another 13 or 14, he would have a chance.

There's an even younger collection of mound talent out there, too. It's headlined by Padres righty Jake Peavy (47 wins at 24), Marlins lefty Dontrelle Willis (46 at 24) and A's righty Rich Harden, who has only 28 wins at 24 -- in part because of injuries -- but has the kind of stuff that could easily produce a lengthy string of 20-win seasons.

Perhaps the lack of 30-something candidates for the 300 Club is one of the reasons Old Schoolers have their doubts. Among them, only Mets righty Pedro Martinez (198 wins at age 34) seems to have a decent shot at joining. Recent stalwarts such as Astros lefty Andy Pettitte (173 at 33), Angels righty Bartolo Colon (139 at 32) and Yankees righty Mike Mussina (225 at 37) will need a serious late-career surge.

As for Bonds i am pleased that he hit 714 but the past couple of days i have been thinking that if he was to break the all time record he would need to go on a tear but i belive that age has finally caught up with the great man.

Pujols is a freak i 21 hrs and May isnt even over yet. I am willing to bet that he will break Bonds single season record.

Just a quick little poll here which do you think is harder to achive in Baseball:

3000 hits

600 HRS

4000 strikeouts

300 wins