The knvb have offered V.Basten a contract till 2010, while his current contract only lasts till the end of Euro 2008.

Do you guys think he should accept it? Or just leave his contract the way it currently is? Or should he even quit right now?

Contracts like that dont mean much to me to be honest. If he dissapoints at EC 2008 (he actualy already dissapointed me this WC), he probably will leave.. All sorts of things can happen. You should not be thinking about who is going to the bondscoach in 2010 in my opinion.

That may be true, but even if he does well in Euro 2008, the Euro Cup is still not that much compared to the World Cup. I think he should stay because this young team needs a young coach.

It should be interesting to see what he does. The goalkeeper coach of the dutch team has just signed a contract with FC Volendam.

I expect Van Basten to see out his contract with the KNVB untill 2008 Euro. Regardless if we do well or bad i want him coaching in 2010 World Cup. The problem i have seen of der years with the Nederland team is that we have a revolving door of coaches who play the same 4-3-3 but always mess it up in the locker room, and i think Van basten is doing a good job because he is young and can relate

I have just read on www.vi.nl that Menzo quit his job voor the dutch team.

V.Basten will need a new goalkeepers trainer now..

I already said my point in another topic but this topic is more relevant: It's good that we have a young bondscoach but we really need someone with more trainersexperience in the staff to assist Marco. The staff probably had a great time in Germany with eachother, since they are all the same age.. We have seen them cycling, playing and making good fun. That's good for the teamspirit, but for the team I think it's really important that Van Basten has someone who can point at things he doesn't see.

Anyway Menzo (keeperstrainer) will not continu his job since he'll go to Volemdam.. But keeperstrainer is not the part of staff that needs the experience, so I hope he choses someone instead of Rob Witsche for instance

I agree, but we can't just add another member to the staff. I think V.Basten knows that experience is one of the factors that this dutch team misses so it should be interesting to see what he does.

Im a little confused about Witsche, what is his actual roll in the dutch team?

i think van basten will be looking at adding an older head to his technical team, eventhough this has been suggested by a million media sources already, and vbasten usually does exactly the opposite to what the media is saying.

another argument van basten may still decide to go for a younger person with not too much experience is coz klinsmann and his team are also young with not much experience, and they and germany are in the semi-finals.

should van basten choose for an experienced person, i'm not too sure who he should get. maybe neeskens. though i dunno what his plans for next season are. ruud krol perhaps. willem van hanegem. i think van hanegem's talents were never really used in his time with advocaat, coz advocaat was way too dominant. and surely van hanegem can't be serious about coaching vitesse next season.

Unfortunatly, Neeskens has already signed with Barcelona to be Rijkaard's assistent next season

We do really need somebody experienced, i hope V.Basten listens to the people for once...

and who do you recommend then?

Im trying to think of a trainer that might be availeble.

Jan Wouters comes to my mind, left the Rangers since he was part of McLeish's staff.. But I dont think we want him, he was rubbish at Ajax as headcoach and has only been an assistent after that.

Erm.. Willem van Hanegem again? Don't think he would like to, because he was quite negative that the press barely critisised Van Basten, while Advocaat was overfloated with bad reports in 2004 when Van Hanegem was his assistent.

Leo Beenhakker? I gues he is having good times on a tropical island and do not want to get back for an assistent role.

Cruyff is the only one left..

Well I don't think Cruyff sees himself as an assistent, he will rather become the head coach then and Van Basten as an assistent.

Cruyff has been offered the bondscoach position many times but he constantly rejected the offers. It seems to me that he don't want to lose his 'untoucheble' image or something like that. He's happy with his advising role at both Barca and Ajax, and also spoke with Van Basten just before the WC.. But he wasn't around the team during the tournament. Maybe that would get the players extra motivated?

He should leave!!..

He and his team has failed totally this world cup!..

and I cant believe that ppl still have confidence in him!!
Holland played crap in allmost all world cup games!!

even that they qualified easily for the world cap doesnt mean that they are gonna do well at the the world cup!

as player was van basten good but now as a coach he failed!..

he should coach a club like nec, nac, rkc those clubs..
if he does well then he can make a step forward..

I dont understand why you have just labeled our coach a failure. We didnt make it past the final 16 but other things came into account, you cant train your players to play with 9 men and a shitty ref. But i like how Van Basten re-shaped and molded our team from the advocaat era and brought in bunch of youngsters who are unexperienced but now how to play worldclass football. Also Van Basten has the capability to coch Ajax,Psv or feyenoord why do say he should mange a clubs like nec, nac, rkc?

He's just mad that Van Basten didn't call up our black friends Kluivert, Davids and Seedorf.

van basten partly failed because of his own ignorance. but also partly because he's new to the whole coaching thing. by that i mean, any coach with his amount of experience, would've made mistakes, we led to holland's early exit.

against portugal for instance, a coach with more experience would've taken off boulharouz at half-time, coz the the ref was lookin at sending a dutch player off too.

but van basten should definitely not resign at this stage. name me a decent alternative. wouters? don't make me laugh adriaanse? i hardly believe he can make this side play attacking soccer. he tried that with porto last season, and it largely failed.

about who should be vbasten's "experienced" assistant, i'm thinking krol. but he has a bit of a soft character. he may still led vbasten have the loudest voice, if you know what i mean.

cruyff is not really an assistant. but more an advice helpline for when you're really stuck. besides, cruyff can't say too much when he bases his opinion mainly from satelite tv, as he doesn't live in holland but in spain.

What about Martin Jol for an assistant?

Krol signed at Ajoccio (Corsica, France) few weeks ago. He's going to be their first coach, they play second division. I like him, when he took over R. Koemans job for a few weeks he did quite a good job. never understood why they didn't leave him there instead of taking Blind, who is less experienced, over him.

There's not much left is there..

Ajaccio stole Ajax's kit! and above your post i said martin Jol. do you think he is capable?

As in a double-role? (Like McLaran did Middelsboro' and assisting Ericsson at once). Because I dont see him leaving his office in London for some assistent role in Zeist.

That would be more realistic, im pretty sure he is happy at spurs and wouldnt leave just to be an assistant.

Ruud Hesp has been announced as the new keeperstrainer, insetad of Menzo. Another coach that was born in the 60ies.. They will once again have a great time in Austria/Switserland over 2 years.

But get us the cup this time fgs

finally the technical team isn't fully ajax coloured.

yeah but i would prefer the coach of the next world cup to be the same coach as in euro. makes it easier for the coach having experienced coaching all the players through euro.

no, if van basten doesn't at least reach the final, i wanna see him go. and i definitely wanna see him go if attacking and dominant football again isn't realised. unless they actually win euro 08 with this conservative style of play.

Yeah, maybe with a miracle they win this conservative. But with attacking play we can overrule any team in Europe I believe. We got good wingers and with Huntelaar up front an excellent striker. Good defense with Boulahrouz etc. the only weak point would be the midfield.

holland needs a centre forward who can take people on 1on1, i didnt watch much huntelaar last season, is he good at dribbling?

Not really.. He's not even that quick actualy. He just got that touch that he always scores. Good header despite not being tall

so just an slightly enhanced version of RvN?
Bergkamp and Kluivert were both good dribblers (or in Kluivert's case, good at running with the ball) no wonder Holland were attractive to watch then

Huntelaar is pretty slow. But he's a very smart player. Always on the right place. Pretty good in the combinations and has a great shot, header and bicyclekick. The only comparison between him and RvN is that they both aren't great dribblers. But that's not important for him. He's also working on his speed and acceleration with sprinter Troy Douglas.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...865&cc=5901

Hiddink's contract talks with the Russian FA reportedly hit the road block. He may be out of job, unless England snaps him.

What are the sentiments in Holland? Do people want him to take in charge of the Dutch national team, in the event of Marco's failing next year?

I think everyone agrees that depends on how he performs next summer.

i don't know i feel like most people don't want him managing holland. if at this moment another coach took charge i dont think there would be too much objection (apart from the fact that the EURO Cup is so close). then again if holland manage to perform, especially in the group of their, then there could be a chance he will stay. but hiddink is an amazing option, no matter what happens in the EURO

I don't wan to continue with van Basten. Even if he performs well at Euo2008 (highly unlikely imo) I want him gone.
Perfect coach for me: Guus Hiddink. The best around
I also love Leo Beenhakker but I don't think he wants the job.
Of course there is always Louis van Gaal

I dont want him to stay till 2010. I want him to come to Ajax.

Somtimes I really hope he uses team that the media often suggest. 442 with van bommel and van Nistelrooy. Just to shut everyone up. Because its not that simple. Mark my words even if he uses the same team and formation that everybody wants we would probally still play crap during the qualifiers

Foppe de Haan for me. Consecutive U21 European Cups, and he changed to 4-4-2 when it was needed. Foppe recognizes mistakes, van Basten thinks hes always right.

Foppe the Haan is good with kids woehoe.

so apparently van basten confirme that he's leaving after the EK. who will be the next coach??

Oi when'd he confirm that?
Man if I was part of the KNVB I would try to convince Guus Hiddink to come back! He obviously has the drive and ability to take a team very far... and you would assume that he would want to try and help Holland win it's first every World Cup.

Besides that i'd probably like Foppe de Haan as well.

I think he should go, its been quite bad footy for the last 2 years. Although we qualified well for the WC we played bad in it. So if we qualified badly we may play well in the EC (here's hoping!)

Bring on HIDDINK!

Source: Telegraaf.nl

Some names have been named around the KNVB.

List consists of: Foppe De Haan, Bert van Marwijk, Fred Rutten, Frank Rijkaard and Co Adriaanse.

According to FCupdate.nl, Foppe De Haan doesn't want to think about being the number 1 coach, but you never know. Maybe he isn't too great with big players.

Your opinions on the list? Rutten and van Marwijk are very interesting options... With either of those two we would at least get some fair selecting of players.

De Telegraaf today reports that the KNVB has a four man shortlist: Frenk Rijkaard, Bert van Marwijk, Fred Rutten and Co Adriaanse.

That should give some discussion

Edit: I missed your post DG33

Hope Rijkaard is willing to do it then. Wonder why Van Gaal isn't on that list though.

Good thing now MVB can go mess up the 020

i doubt van marwijk would go he's just commited himself to feyenoord and all hell would break loose if he left already, he also seems really keen on building something out of feyenoord. i think adriaanse and rijkaard would be most likely. rijkaard has been under some pressure lately at barcelona and adriaanse is out in nowhere

To be quite honest with you I don't believe that Van Basten is a great coach. I mean ya, he brought some youthful players in to the team but they haven't made it quite far in tournaments. His attitude with some of the players (from what I have read) seems terrible and he comes across as up himself (if you get what I mean).

Guus would be a way better and I don't understand why he hasn't taken the job. I mean Russia .

Maybe because here in Holland we have 16 million coaches? Everybody here has something to say over the formation, even when you play the formation they want to play there are still things wrong with it. It's never good enough here... Especially when some fool like Johan Derksen is on TV, saying shit about every trainer but funny thing is he himself has never coached a club. (Remembers that on one occasion, Derksen said somebody were clothes that weren't fitting. Then when the camera zoomed out he had the gayest shirt ever on. )

I like watchign RTL Voetbal though, Derksen and van Hanegem can make it amusing at times, with some good points. But Stuio Voetbal is the better one though.

Anyone mind having Johan Derksen or Hugo Borst as coach?

Damn now Van Basten will be the new Ajax trainer with Van 't Schip as his assistent and Foppe will be our new bondscoach.

Foppe de Haan, mister 'I claim to be brilliant with youthplayers.' The voice who leads the younger generation.. Who remembers a youth player that came out the own academy when De Haan was a trainer at Heerenveen for 20 years? Tieme Klompe maybe?
It's all bullocks, Foppe was never good with youth players. Give the recent Oranje youth teams some credit, we just had 2 wonderful groups.. But all I hear is credit for the trainer. He shouldn't be the bondscoach come on.