sergio
Jul 4 2006, 10:51 AM
I really struggle to separate these 2
They both have their own feeding grounds/occassions
Henry thrives in EPL against relatively weak opposition
Drogba does well for the NT regardless of the opposition
Plus Drogba also imposes himself in the big matches (
What do you guys think?
I think it's a tie so far
Zola25=God
Jul 4 2006, 10:59 AM
Now THIS IS insane!
I am one of Drogba's biggest proponents on this board, -Angel- will tell you that lol but these two are uncomparable. My honest opinion is that Drogba is THE most underrated player in world football the amount of stick he gets is unreal and his talent is obvious to anyone who has really followed his career but Henry is a phenom he really is MILES ahead of Drogba. About the only thing Drogba does better than Henry is heading (and he does it brilliantly I might add) but this is clearly an attempt to wind the Henry fans up again....
so don't rise to it people! Come here state your opinion (I'd imagine it would be Henry...make a poll out of this sergio!) but don't let it become the slagging match the other Henry threads have become.
Like I say I'm no Henry worshipper but there's comparisons and stupid comparisons and this falls into the latter!
(I desperately hope to come back this time next year and talk about Didier the 30 goal a season man but I'm afraid that's not happening!)
sergio
Jul 4 2006, 11:21 AM
You're making a mistake if you think because Drogba doesn't score as much as Henry then Henry is better
First off all, Drogba doesn't start every match for Chelsea
2nd, Drogba plays in a Chelsea team where a midfielder like Lampard gets too score lots
Henry gets all the chances Arsenal create AND those he doesn't score are fed through him by Wenger's system
Dont you wonder why Henry has "beautiful" stats for Arsenal but average ones for France?
Zola25=God
Jul 4 2006, 11:26 AM
^Yeh I know I do go and watch Drogba most home games. No-one would claim he's the most clinical finisher, for me his quality is in his teamwork, he is everything (along with Terry) that Mourinho has turned Chelsea into for me, a 100% giving beast and on his day he's immense BUT still not as good as Henry imo, I'd take him over a lot of 'world-class' strikers but Henry is not one of them.
And for your info, Drogba tends to start most games for Chelsea unless he isn't totally fit, Crespo was the bench player this year.
sergio
Jul 4 2006, 11:30 AM
QUOTE(Zola25=God @ Jul 4 2006, 11:26 AM)

^Yeh I know I do go and watch Drogba most home games. No-one would claim he's the most clinical finisher, for me his quality is in his teamwork, he is everything (along with Terry) that Mourinho has turned Chelsea into for me, a 100% giving beast and on his day he's immense BUT still not as good as Henry imo, I'd take him over a lot of 'world-class' strikers but Henry is not one of them.
And for your info, Drogba tends to start most games for Chelsea unless he isn't totally fit, Crespo was the bench player this year.
Even though Drogba started more than Crespo, he has tsill probly only started half the number of games Henry has started
Tis only loical that Henry would score more because he gets more opportunities than any other striker in the world
Zola25=God
Jul 4 2006, 11:33 AM
Eto'o? Isn't he practically a certainty to start for Barca? Point taken but answer me this: if you had the choice between the two to have as a second striker supporting your main number 9 whoever it may be (eg: RVN or Crespo), who would you pick between Drogba and Henry? Drogba for me but NOT because I think he's better, just simply because he's my fave player.
Dirk Gently
Jul 4 2006, 11:33 AM
QUOTE(Zola25=God @ Jul 4 2006, 05:26 PM)

^Yeh I know I do go and watch Drogba most home games. No-one would claim he's the most clinical finisher, for me his quality is in his teamwork, he is everything (along with Terry) that Mourinho has turned Chelsea into for me, a 100% giving beast and on his day he's immense BUT still not as good as Henry imo, I'd take him over a lot of 'world-class' strikers but Henry is not one of them.
And for your info, Drogba tends to start most games for Chelsea unless he isn't totally fit, Crespo was the bench player this year.
I'm with you. I mean, I dislike Drogba's attitude off the pitch and some of his gamesmanship, but you can't doubt his total commitment, his assist record, his physical power and his heading ability, and also his performances for Ivory Coast. He is a good player, but I feel he is at the dining table second to that of Henry's, in terms of striking talent. It's Henry, Eto'o, Shevchenko that, at this moment in time, occupy the top echelon on strikers in the world, with Henry out in front.
QUOTE
between the two to have as a second striker supporting your main number 9 whoever it may be (eg: RVN or Crespo), who would you pick between Drogba and Henry? Drogba for me but NOT because I think he's better, just simply because he's my fave player.
He isn't much of a SS really, Henry. I think his positional play is peculiar, he drifts constantly between CF, WF, and SS in terms of position. Certainly, he works well, but you wouldn't expect him to sit in front of defences with pace like he has. But, as Henry will tell you, he can do that, it is just harder for him.
sergio
Jul 4 2006, 11:46 AM
QUOTE(Zola25=God @ Jul 4 2006, 11:33 AM)

Eto'o? Isn't he practically a certainty to start for Barca? Point taken but answer me this: if you had the choice between the two to have as a second striker supporting your main number 9 whoever it may be (eg: RVN or Crespo), who would you pick between Drogba and Henry? Drogba for me but NOT because I think he's better, just simply because he's my fave player.
The only time i would pick Henry is if the team were to be Arsenal and the coach were to be Wenger
For every other circumstance, Drogba would be the man (even for France)
Zola25=God
Jul 4 2006, 11:48 AM
So as a Barcelona fan, say all your current strikers broke their legs (god forbid hehe) who would you play up front for Barca out of these two?
fanatic
Jul 4 2006, 11:57 AM
They are un comparable. I agree with the fact that Drogba is underrated at times and is good on his day. He is aggresive and cause trouble for strikers with his strenght but his finishing always let him down and had a poor outing in the WC. Henry is no doubt one of the best strikers in the World and meters above Drogba
Zola25=God
Jul 4 2006, 11:59 AM
Poor WC? He was absolutley immense against the Argies and average vs Holland...
Rest of post is exactly what I've been saying though!
sergio
Jul 4 2006, 12:01 PM
QUOTE(Zola25=God @ Jul 4 2006, 11:48 AM)

So as a Barcelona fan, say all your current strikers broke their legs (god forbid hehe) who would you play up front for Barca out of these two?
Drogba
on a serious note
I would mind if Barca bought Drogba cause they'd spend too much money on him
But he'd be my preferred player of the 2
Henry has failed to convince under different circumstances from those at Arsenal
Everybody knows that Henry is better and that's that. Drogba is underrated and is a good player for Chelsea and the Ivory Coast but almost everyone on this forum knows that Henry is better. Sergio, do U actually know ANYTHING about football or are U just a biased person.
sergio
Jul 4 2006, 12:14 PM
QUOTE(CCT @ Jul 4 2006, 12:11 PM)

Everybody knows that Henry is better and that's that. Drogba is underrated and is a good player for Chelsea and the Ivory Coast but almost everyone on this forum knows that Henry is better. Sergio, do U actually know ANYTHING about football or are U just a biased person.
That's not a fact, you dunno what everybody knows AND you will never know that
So please start posting reliably
Zola25=God
Jul 4 2006, 12:14 PM
And the slagging match begins....come on ladies this was a civilised debate for the first 10 posts or so!
ArsenalMan
Jul 4 2006, 12:23 PM
QUOTE(Zola25=God @ Jul 4 2006, 12:14 PM)

And the slagging match begins....come on ladies this was a civilised debate for the first 10 posts or so!
Yes but this Sergio guy is just making this thread to slate Henry not to have a debate. Hes trying to Provok people and say the same crap hes been saying in everysingle topic he writes in.
What next Sergio? My Gran vs Henry?
sergio
Jul 4 2006, 12:25 PM
QUOTE(ArsenalMan @ Jul 4 2006, 12:23 PM)

Yes but this Sergio guy is just making this thread to slate Henry not to have a debate. Hes trying to Provok people and say the same crap hes been saying in everysingle topic he writes in.
What next Sergio? My Gran vs Henry?
You gimme too much credit
Why would be soo stratetig in what threads i start?
I just think Henry and Drogba are comparable
Zola25=God
Jul 4 2006, 12:26 PM
Arsenal Man: I refer you to my first post, isn't it obvious that this thread was intended to provoke the Henry lovers...it's worked now hasn't it..as I said before don't rise to it.
To be honest it's nice to see a Drogba thread running for 5 minutes without some uninformed person who clearly only watches highlights bashing the big man.
ArsenalMan
Jul 4 2006, 12:29 PM
QUOTE(Zola25=God @ Jul 4 2006, 12:26 PM)

Arsenal Man: I refer you to my first post, isn't it obvious that this thread was intended to provoke the Henry lovers...it's worked now hasn't it..as I said before don't rise to it.
To be honest it's nice to see a Drogba thread running for 5 minutes without some uninformed person who clearly only watches highlights bashing the big man.
No ones bashing him sometimes i feel i'm the only person who rates Drogba but come on Hes not comparable to Henry and this thread will end up like all the other threads he makes.
sergio
Jul 4 2006, 12:34 PM
QUOTE(ArsenalMan @ Jul 4 2006, 12:29 PM)

No ones bashing him sometimes i feel i'm the only person who rates Drogba but come on Hes not comparable to Henry and this thread will end up like all the other threads he makes.
How's Drogba not comparable to Henry?
Substantiate
You can't just say something and expect it to hold
Zola25=God
Jul 4 2006, 12:35 PM
I never said he was comparable to Henry btw
I'm sorry Sergio, I didn't mean to say that EVERYBODY thinks Hnery is better, I meant everybody except you and maybe the occasional biased idiot. If Henry is not as good as Drogba then why is everybody else on this thread saying he is except you.
Den1412
Jul 4 2006, 12:39 PM
Please sergio don't continue to compare henry with all players in your mind, you know that henry is best striker in the world...the stats say it, the fact say it, the football players say it, the media say it....
Zola25=God
Jul 4 2006, 12:41 PM
And also remember sergio this is coming from some people who watch these players live week in and out, for example: Tiago, any Chelsea fan that saw him live loved him any that didn't couldn't see what the fuss was about, you pick up stuff you wouldn't normally.
Hannum
Jul 4 2006, 05:51 PM
Stop trying to talk sense to Sergio, he has never listened and is proud of this. He is just panicking now that Henry showed hes the best. And is a "infant" on a rampage, ooh were scared at soccerpulse. I cant sleep while you are making endless topics here.
Drogba is a very good player, and would be a great partner for Henry, who is better.
I almost hope Henry had moved to barca, the complete mealtdown (which aint far away now) of Sergio would have been a sight to see.
.Pep Guardiola.
Jul 4 2006, 06:24 PM
Drogba is better for his national team. He is also a better diver than Henry, but Henry is trying to catch up.

Seriously, Henry is better.
ArsenalMan
Jul 4 2006, 06:45 PM
QUOTE(Carles Puyol @ Jul 4 2006, 06:24 PM)

Drogba is better for his national team. He is also a better diver than Henry, but Henry is trying to catch up.

Seriously, Henry is better.
What about Henry in Euro 2000 when he was one of the best players in the tournement and was Man Of the match in the final when he ripped Italy to shreads. Or world cup 1998 the star youngster who came on as a sub and shined. TBH Henry is better for his country. Also top scorer for France in both of those competitions.
Best 7
Jul 4 2006, 06:47 PM
Most ridiculous thread so far you know youve done it just to try and be contreversial and provoke angry responses.
Pieter de Hooch
Jul 4 2006, 06:58 PM
Congratualtions on making the worlds worst thread, pat on the back man.
Tre Cool
Jul 4 2006, 08:11 PM
Drogba is underrated and Henry is overrated. All in all, Id say they are pretty close, slthough Henry edges out IMO because he obviously is more entertaining to watch and has more achievements behind his name. However, seen in terms of ability, they are both equally fast, Henry has better shot and pass with his feet, but Drogba is stronger, better in headers and more predatory like. To me they are very similar players; I think that if Henry played for Chelsea, he would have similar effect as Drogba. Henry is totally suited by Wenger's system at Arsenal to be the goalscorer and main player, while Drogba's role in Chelsea is to allow the wingers and Lampard to shine by drawing defenders to him, fighting a lot in attack, and finishing off
This isnt a ridiculous thread - maybe on first sight Henry and Drogba seem very different, but thats becasue of the roles people are used to seeing them in. Its the systems that separate those two, Henry's is flattering and Drogba's is limited. In terms of ability they are very close.
MrArsenal
Jul 4 2006, 08:18 PM
How can this guy be allowed to start aimless thread after aimless thread? (rhetorical question).
I realised a long time ago that sergio resents Henry's presence at Arsenal and rejection of Barcelona.
There is literally nothing to say on the subject. The only person that would ever say Drogba compareable to Henry is Drogba's mum, and even then she'd admit Henry is better.
Heck, I remember Drogba trying to 'aspire' to Henry because he is so good. So Drogba thinks Henry is better himself.
Whoever actually trys to get this thread going needs to ask themselves
a) Am I doing an insightful footballing analysis
or

Am I stupid enough to fall for Sergio's provocation seeing as he's been doing this for his entire time at soccerpulse.
You simply need to look at the thread and laugh.
(note. I realise the irony in responding myself to this thread, however, I am simply doing my good deed for the day and saving others who may fall to the bait some 'typing time')
penf.pat.15
Jul 4 2006, 08:55 PM
Drogba is good in his own right, but Henry is better. Drogba is more of a brute-type player, whereas Henry can play with finesse and force at the same time
sergio
Jul 4 2006, 11:48 PM
QUOTE(Tre_Cool @ Jul 4 2006, 08:11 PM)

Drogba is underrated and Henry is overrated. All in all, Id say they are pretty close, slthough Henry edges out IMO because he obviously is more entertaining to watch and has more achievements behind his name. However, seen in terms of ability, they are both equally fast, Henry has better shot and pass with his feet, but Drogba is stronger, better in headers and more predatory like. To me they are very similar players; I think that if Henry played for Chelsea, he would have similar effect as Drogba. Henry is totally suited by Wenger's system at Arsenal to be the goalscorer and main player, while Drogba's role in Chelsea is to allow the wingers and Lampard to shine by drawing defenders to him, fighting a lot in attack, and finishing off
This isnt a ridiculous thread - maybe on first sight Henry and Drogba seem very different, but thats becasue of the roles people are used to seeing them in. Its the systems that separate those two, Henry's is flattering and Drogba's is limited. In terms of ability they are very close.
That's what i call insight
The very reason for people thinking this thread is ridiculous is cause they overrate Henry and underrate Drogba
I repea, Henry has never been convincing as a striker for any team except a Wenger-coached Arsenal
Drogba was the toast of Marseille and best striker in the UEFA Cup (not just domestic league)
Drogba is NT leader
Drogba uplifts the likes of Robben and Lampard through his understanding of the attacking game
Lampard can shine for Chelsea like he can't for England because he has a player like Drogba who draws defenders out of the way and creates space without touching the ball.
Henry has shown at this world cup that he can't do much to help the attacking game. When not offside, he's either making badly timed runs thus making it impossible for the midfielders to give good balls.
I'm toying with the idea tat Brasil were tryna catch him offside in the QF game at the world cup
F4Evo
Jul 5 2006, 02:31 AM
seriously what a joke of a thread, Drogba does not come close to Henry, maybe Drogba at most is about as good as Ronaldo
greattoseerobinimprovising
Jul 5 2006, 02:51 AM
QUOTE(MrArsenal @ Jul 5 2006, 04:18 AM)

How can this guy be allowed to start aimless thread after aimless thread? (rhetorical question).
I realised a long time ago that sergio resents Henry's presence at Arsenal and rejection of Barcelona.
There is literally nothing to say on the subject. The only person that would ever say Drogba compareable to Henry is Drogba's mum, and even then she'd admit Henry is better.
Heck, I remember Drogba trying to 'aspire' to Henry because he is so good. So Drogba thinks Henry is better himself.
Whoever actually trys to get this thread going needs to ask themselves
a) Am I doing an insightful footballing analysis
or

Am I stupid enough to fall for Sergio's provocation seeing as he's been doing this for his entire time at soccerpulse.
You simply need to look at the thread and laugh.
(note. I realise the irony in responding myself to this thread, however, I am simply doing my good deed for the day and saving others who may fall to the bait some 'typing time')
What about poll "Jason Roberts vs. Henry"? All the Barca fans and Anti-Henry fanclub' chief - Sergio will have a lot to say about Roberts. He's talented, he's underrated, he will definitely score if he ever gets to the national team etc...
I thought Barca fans have enough reasons to be happy after that tremendous season they had. But their EX-NEW signing really annoys them.
Best 7
Jul 5 2006, 06:05 AM
QUOTE(sergio @ Jul 4 2006, 11:48 PM)

That's what i call insight
The very reason for people thinking this thread is ridiculous is cause they overrate Henry and underrate Drogba
I repea, Henry has never been convincing as a striker for any team except a Wenger-coached Arsenal
Drogba was the toast of Marseille and best striker in the UEFA Cup (not just domestic league)
Drogba is NT leader
Drogba uplifts the likes of Robben and Lampard through his understanding of the attacking game
Lampard can shine for Chelsea like he can't for England because he has a player like Drogba who draws defenders out of the way and creates space without touching the ball.
Henry has shown at this world cup that he can't do much to help the attacking game. When not offside, he's either making badly timed runs thus making it impossible for the midfielders to give good balls.
I'm toying with the idea tat Brasil were tryna catch him offside in the QF game at the world cup
No its because they have eyes,answer me this then if drogba has been such a good player for chelsea and is comparable with henry wh do they feel the need to bring in schevchenko and kallou?
Den1412
Jul 5 2006, 06:15 AM
QUOTE(sergio @ Jul 5 2006, 06:48 AM)

Drogba is NT leader
so drogba is better than eto'o....because eto'o isn't a leader for his NT
There's Only One United
Jul 5 2006, 06:31 AM
henry easy...drogba not in the same class IMO
Stiffmeister
Jul 5 2006, 07:03 AM
ppl stop this....lets get back into a reasonable conversation...individually henry is the greatest striker in world football but drogba is much more valuable to a team !! Hes a beast!!! The man is incredibly strong and is defenders worst nightmare!!! Puyol said that drogba is the most difficult striker to play against!!! BTW puyol has played henry so.........but imo Henry is a better individual player than drogba. The arsenal system exploits henrys qualities whilst the france one does not. look at the number of goals cumin from chelskis midfield!!! i guarantee u that if drogba wasnt there it wouldnt happen....
well thats my opinion......
Rawul
Jul 5 2006, 08:01 AM
QUOTE(axiom @ Jul 5 2006, 11:31 AM)

seriously what a joke of a thread, Drogba does not come close to Henry, maybe Drogba at most is
about as good as Ronaldo 

.. firstly let me inform you that Henry is not yet in the league of Ronaldo so who the fuck gave u the right to say hell be at most as good as Ronaldo..Drogba is no way near Henry but to make such a baseless comment proves how narrow minded you are..
P.S. Drogba is a cheat...a big damned one..he even admits it some times!!
F4Evo
Jul 5 2006, 08:04 AM
obviously im talking about right now not "Ronaldo in his peak" (and anyway i was only referring to Ronaldo because of I wondered how certain members would react to it) , just cos Ronaldo scored 3 goals for Brazil doesnt bring him back to form, even though Ronaldo is a million times technically better than Drogba, the fact that he doesnt move much is a major disadvantage... and if you still think that Ronaldo right now is better than Henry of present God help u
Rawul
Jul 5 2006, 08:11 AM
QUOTE(axiom @ Jul 5 2006, 05:04 PM)

obviously im talking about right now not "Ronaldo in his peak" (and anyway i was only referring to Ronaldo because of I wondered how certain members would react to it) , just cos Ronaldo scored 3 goals for Brazil doesnt bring him back to form, even though Ronaldo is a million times technically better than Drogba, the fact that he doesnt move much is a major disadvantage... and if you still think that Ronaldo right now is better than Henry of present God help u
Firstly ur just a biased Arsenal Fan for whom Henry is god.Ok..now secondly i dont think Henry has yet scored a goal where he does a step over in front of a goalie and make him dive in the opposite direction . Just because Henry is more in form [ physically ] doesnt mean hes a better player right now!!..just coz he can jump more and stretch to hit volleys doesnt make him technically more proficient than Ronaldo!..Ronaldo still is the best striker in the world...i suggest you download all of Real Madrids Goals by Ronaldo of this season only.Just because of Real Fans jeering him along the whole season and the media calling him fat and trying to spoil his season doesnt make Henry the better player.See the quality of the Goals Ronaldo has scored this season not the quantity..
F4Evo
Jul 5 2006, 08:17 AM
QUOTE(Rawul @ Jul 5 2006, 02:11 PM)

Firstly ur just a biased Arsenal Fan for whom Henry is god.Ok..
now secondly i dont think Henry has yet scored a goal where he does a step over in front of a goalie and make him dive in the opposite direction . Just because Henry is more in form [ physically ] doesnt mean hes a better player right now!!..just coz he can jump more and stretch to hit volleys doesnt make him technically more proficient than Ronaldo!..Ronaldo still is the best striker in the world...i suggest you download all of Real Madrids Goals by Ronaldo of this season only.Just because of Real Fans jeering him along the whole season and the media calling him fat and trying to spoil his season doesnt make Henry the better player.See the quality of the Goals Ronaldo has scored this season not the quantity..

shows how much you watched Henry
seriously you ronaldo fans( more like henry haters) need to open your eyes to see how great Henry's achievements for Arsenal are
and if you think Henry is only good for his physical superiority again you need to be reeducated, if anything Ronaldo used the same, he wasnt as fast as Henry but he is physically very strong and used his strength a fair bit
I still cant believe you think Ronaldo had a better season than Henry
Rawul
Jul 5 2006, 08:23 AM
QUOTE(axiom @ Jul 5 2006, 05:17 PM)

shows how much you watched Henry
seriously you ronaldo fans( more like henry haters) need to open your eyes to see how great Henry's achievements for Arsenal are
and if you think Henry is only good for his physical superiority again you need to be reeducated, if anything Ronaldo used the same, he wasnt as fast as Henry but he is physically very strong and used his strength a fair bit
I still cant believe you think Ronaldo had a better season than HenryI didnt say that firstly...i said some goals Ronaldo scored this season were so good that Even Henry could never catch them..and yes bite ur damn tongue for saying that Ronaldo wasnt as fast as Henry with a similar frame..everyone knows Ronaldo could squeeze from between 3 people and outrace them to the ball...u should really download some videos..i mean u say Ronaldo didnt have speed when he was the speediest thing to grace the planet with the greatest sport ever!..Henry is good no doubt but u cannot yet compare him to Ronaldo.hes a damn legend and is being compared to the greats like Pele...Henry is amazing..i have seen his goals and i know hes kickass..

..but to make such dumb comments doesnt satisfy no ones hunger for a good argument...
F4Evo
Jul 5 2006, 08:29 AM
Ronaldo was fast, but not the fastest thing in the world or atleast at the time I was watching him, just the fact his frame was so big meant that he could outmuscle everyone else but Henry is pure pace and acceleration, he doesnt have such a big frame and so has to rely purely on pace
greattoseerobinimprovising
Jul 5 2006, 08:33 AM
OK, mate, but how will you react if a guy that despise Real Madrid starts a topic "Ronaldo vs. Vladimir Manchev" and claims that they're similarly skilled players??? I don't think you'll be happy.
Rawul
Jul 5 2006, 08:33 AM
QUOTE(axiom @ Jul 5 2006, 05:29 PM)

Ronaldo was fast, but not the fastest thing in the world or atleast at the time I was watching him, just the fact his frame was so big meant that he could outmuscle everyone else but Henry is pure pace and acceleration, he doesnt have such a big frame and so has to rely purely on pace

You obviously didnt get what i meant..i meant that..Ronaldo used his speed to run past them ... not knock them to the fucking floor man!!..

...when Ronaldo started off..he too was a thin kid and not some Ronnie Coleman..[A Bodybuilder]
Den1412
Jul 5 2006, 08:36 AM
QUOTE(Rawul @ Jul 5 2006, 03:11 PM)

See the quality of the Goals Ronaldo has scored this season not the quantity..
Please don't talk about quality....because nobody can be compare to henry, the quality of his goals is absolutely amazing
ThierryHenry_fan
Jul 5 2006, 08:39 AM
Thierry Henry is the best in all components of the game maybe exept the hits with the head.
This comparison is funny
Razbra li be tupa katalonska fu6kio
Rawul
Jul 5 2006, 08:53 AM
QUOTE(den1412 @ Jul 5 2006, 05:36 PM)

Please don't talk about quality....because nobody can be compare to henry, the quality of his goals is absolutely amazing
I dont think penalties count as quality goals...
     
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