rado907
Aug 28 2005, 08:01 PM
Great game. The score line isn't just. Montella missed 2-3 clear chances, also Mancini scored a goal that was not accepted for some reason, crappy refereeing but that's Roma after all and not Juve, decisions go against and not for them.
Cassano was on the bench for some reason and didn't go in. Dunno what's going on with him...
Highlights:
http://tinyurl.com/9fze2
bonogol
Aug 29 2005, 11:05 AM
Great start of the season for Roma.
Spalletti has done a great job.
rado907
Aug 29 2005, 01:15 PM
About Cassano - the geniuses in control of the club have decided that unless he signs a new contract by 31 August, he will spend his last year in Roma on the bench.
Such bright gentlemen.
So wise and kind, and so knowledgeable of human nature, to know that the right approach to everything is, of course, intimidation!
~Bianconeri~
Aug 29 2005, 01:21 PM
Good result for Roma against a reasonable team, Spalletti's done a great job, building the teams confidence and goalscoring by the looks of things (thanks for the video btw, good game).
And what a stupid descioin yet again by the board, those guys are idiots and ruined Romas chances for glory last season aswell.
bonogol
Aug 29 2005, 03:52 PM
QUOTE(rado907 @ Aug 29 2005, 01:15 PM)
About Cassano - the geniuses in control of the club have decided that unless he signs a new contract by 31 August, he will spend his last year in Roma on the bench.
Such bright gentlemen.
So wise and kind, and so knowledgeable of human nature, to know that the right approach to everything is, of course, intimidation!

Obviously this is a very harsh decision, but Antonio has a serious attitude problem and Roma managment needs to do something about it
Cassano has earned the disrespect of the fans and if he doesen't improve his attidude he will defenitely leave next season.
Dirty Sanchez
Aug 29 2005, 06:45 PM
That's an incredibly stupid attitude shown by the board. You don't make someone want to play for your club by threatening him.
Cantona
Aug 29 2005, 07:06 PM
QUOTE(rado907 @ Aug 29 2005, 01:15 PM)
About Cassano - the geniuses in control of the club have decided that unless he signs a new contract by 31 August, he will spend his last year in Roma on the bench.
Such bright gentlemen.
So wise and kind, and so knowledgeable of human nature, to know that the right approach to everything is, of course, intimidation!

Yep it's true that it's not a smart strategy ... especially one year before WC 2006 , Cassano can be in the Italian squad , that attitude is not good for the player and for Italy .. he must play as much as possible .
chanpg1
Aug 29 2005, 11:59 PM
QUOTE(rado907 @ Aug 29 2005, 11:15 AM)
About Cassano - the geniuses in control of the club have decided that unless he signs a new contract by 31 August, he will spend his last year in Roma on the bench.
Such bright gentlemen.
So wise and kind, and so knowledgeable of human nature, to know that the right approach to everything is, of course, intimidation!

While I think that Roma should do something about Cassano's attitude problem, this is certainly not the way to do it... You simply can't make Cassano (or anybody for that mater) mature by being rude to him...
PazzaInter
Aug 30 2005, 01:20 AM
Well i sorta agree with it, They basically said 'Look, You ever sign a new contract and be part of the team we are building, or stop wasting our time sitting around waiting for Juve to come get you'
Cipe
Aug 30 2005, 05:27 AM
excellent start for roma
ffl19
Aug 30 2005, 09:02 PM
great start for Roma

could not watch the match, since they did not showed in Brasil

but I saw the goals

That Cassano situation sucks, because even with all the stupid things he does, heīs a great player, and we keep him in bench, for other things rather than his football skills
Dirty Sanchez
Aug 30 2005, 10:23 PM
Either sell him now or let him play. It's useless to have him rot on the bench. I for one would love for him to stay, as he connects well with Il capitano.
I think Spaletti is the man for Roma. What he did at Udinese was excellent, and has shown what a good manager he is. SUpposedly he had calmed down Cassano which is a big plus, however the board decided to screw with that.
rado907
Sep 11 2005, 09:57 AM
Annoying.
Udinese had a few chances in the game, but nothing serious. Chivu-Kuffour were a wall and the damn goal came from a ricochet.
Roma had great chances, but the Montella factor came into play. Montella missed 2 great chances and also lost possession every time the ball came his way. He was of course subbed at half-time with the new Nonda guy.
IMO Spaletti should try playing Cerci - he's a promising young striker and youth champion from last year.
The 3 new signings showed varying performances. Koffour was creat - you can see he's a champion's league winning player, he is world class. With Chivu a great defensive pair is formed.
Nonda and Taddei though... They've yet to be integrated. Taddei in particular was completely isolated all game and was a non-factor.
Totti was tired from the qualifiers... He wasn't terribly influential today (though he still had an OK game).
Cassano FINALLY made an appearance (subbed in early in the second half). He played very well, and I have to say if Roma are to get anywhere this season, he'll have to play every single game.
The Udinese goalkeeper saved two dangerous De Rossi headers... In general, luck didn't favor Roma too much.
A few words on Udinese - they are in the CL deservedly. The organization inside the team is exemplary. All players did their job, and the victory they achieved was not undeserved (though the game was largely even, with a bit of luck Roma could easily have won).
In the future I expect more Cassano, less Montella, and better results from Roma... Today I'm rather dissapointed.
One last thing - Montella infuriates me. Last year his contract was hanging. So out of nowhere he pulls out 20 goals! And it's not like he was playing very well or anything, it was just that every shot of his hit the corner! He was even called for the national side (where he was abysmal, cuz it had nothing to do with his contract). At last the club offered him a new contract... He signs... And that was it. From then on - no goals. Nothing.
By now he has become a liability rather than an asset. As I said, it's not just that he misses. He also loses possession almost every time he touches the ball. I like the guy, but this is ridiculous.
Anyway, good job Udinese, good luck in the CL, and hopefully next week Roma will do better. They have the squad to do it, but Spaletti and the club bosses should quit fooling and let Cassano do his thing without unnecessary bothers, and Spaletti should bench Montella for good. We'll see.
phranque_kronic
Sep 11 2005, 10:08 AM
Im dissapointed.
Juventino Sempre
Sep 11 2005, 10:12 AM
Udinese deserved the win, and De Sanctis played amazing. Kuffour is an animal and should be locked up.
Totti was nowhere to be seen, and Cassano didn't do anything in the time he was in. Not to mention both teams missed a plethora of pretty much OPEN NET chances.
Inter loses, Roma loses, Juve wins 4-0. Could I be any happier
PazzaInter
Sep 11 2005, 11:32 AM
Cassano was awesome, He made a difference when he came on
phranque_kronic
Sep 12 2005, 01:18 AM
QUOTE(Juventino Sempre @ Sep 11 2005, 10:12 AM)
Udinese deserved the win, and De Sanctis played amazing. Kuffour is an animal and should be locked up.
Totti was nowhere to be seen, and Cassano didn't do anything in the time he was in. Not to mention both teams missed a plethora of pretty much OPEN NET chances.
Inter loses, Roma loses, Juve wins 4-0. Could I be any happier

Why dont you fuck off?
bonogol
Sep 15 2005, 10:54 AM
hehe.. Spalletti has done a good job with Roma, but unfortunetly he also did a good job with Udinese last season.
rado907
Sep 18 2005, 03:27 PM
Cassano was inured didn't play.
De Rossi smacked the bar 20 seconds in.
The ref was an idiot. Completely retarded.
Let me explain.
10 mins before the end of the game, Roma won a free kick on the edge of the box.
So Totti places the ball, moves away, takes a run, but then the wall runs towards him and he doesn't kick the ball.
The wall moving before the kick is a yellow card offense.
The ref does nothing.
So Totti moves up again, takes a run, again the wall moves, again he doesn't take the kick.
That my friends is a red card offense. Move once, yellow. Move twice, that's dissent, that's red.
The ref pulls out a yellow (at least he did something this time).
We go again - Totti runs up, AGAIN the Livorno players move prior to him kicking the ball, again he doesn't kick the ball.
To reiterate - that's RED CARD offense.
What does the ref do? He gives a yellow... to Totti! And then people say "Totti has terrible discipline he gets a lot of yellow cards." Disgusting.
Well, Totti runs to take the kick for a 4th time, and this time he kicks it cuz otherwise he's risking a second yellow by the ref's innovative interpretations of the soccer rules. The ball of course hits a Livorno player, who at the moment of the kick is about 4 meters away from Totti (say half the required distance).
Pathetic.
A minute later a Roma player crossed the ball and it hit a defender's hand and went into corner. That's a penalty, to be honest, or at least was for Juve. Not for Roma though.
Also, Gilardino scored from what looked a bit like an offisde today (not to say an obvious offside...).
So the ref standards differ when it comes to Roma and when it comes to Juve/Milan.
That's old news though, with Juve winning at least a couple of games last season with ridiculous ref help.
Dunno what else to say... The first half was more or less equal - Roma dominated in the second half. Montella was as bad as usual. Curci made a few good saves. Totti had some deft touches (including some spectacular backheels inculding backheels in the air).
Nonda had a good chance 5 minutes before the end, but the Livorno keeper saved his header.
On the overall Roma looked very good today. Once Cassano comes back results should start flowing in.
Andy
Sep 18 2005, 03:33 PM
Yeah I saw the Freekick Totti incident.
It reminded me of that famous Zaire freekick from the 74 World Cup against Brazil.
Coulden't believe Totti got booked for that.
dreamlander
Sep 19 2005, 06:47 AM
yeah, that free kick shit was an absolutre joke.
When Totti did hit it, the ref should have ordered a retake and then booked the responsible Livorno player but he seemed to have somethin personal against Totti, it was fucked up. I coulkdnt believe then that the commentators on Bravo were having a go at Totti for mind games.
Next time Roma should have someone, like Nonda run over the ball and then the whole wall would charge while Totti is just starting his run up...
Igard
Sep 19 2005, 07:31 AM
QUOTE(dreamlander @ Sep 19 2005, 06:47 AM)
Next time Roma should have someone, like Nonda run over the ball and then the whole wall would charge while Totti is just starting his run up...
Absolutely. At least one of the Livorno defenders should have been sent off for this. Roma could have really caught them out if they had someone run over the ball.
ffl19
Sep 19 2005, 01:57 PM
They didnīt show this game on Brasilian TV, but last night I was zapping trhough channels and realised they were showing the game in RAI, so I stopped there to watch. It was in secondhalf already, like 5 minutes before this freekick joke. I just donīt understand how FIFA allows ths to happen in Europe or any other part of the world other than Brasil. Let me explain...in Brasil they invented a spray that the referee uses to mark the place were the wall must stay. After like 30 secs the spry disappear in the grass and its all back to normal. We donīt have that kind of problem here.
They should use this in the whole world, but they just canīt admit a stupid third country person had a good idea. And that is why this sort of things happen there.

I was getting mad with the ref already...and Totti even got a yellow card for not kicking the ball...how stupid is that?
dreamlander
Sep 20 2005, 04:30 AM
thast a cool idea actually, but the problem is it didnt take spray or a line to show you that the Livorno guys were encroaching.
That was just blatant shit refereeing.
rado907
Sep 21 2005, 03:32 PM
Last year it was 5-1...
Still, not so bad ;-).
Notable things...
Chivu, Cassano and Mancini were injured, all key players, and the team still did well, which means there's depth in Roma.
Nonda started instead of Montella (which was to be expected, Montella has been terrible recently), and as we can see that worked out well.
Good stuff.
ffl19
Sep 21 2005, 07:13 PM
I wish I had watched that

Canīt even remeber the last Roma game I saw (boooo brasilian TV

)
Sounds like we had a nice game, and nice to see Nonda scoring twice
bonogol
Sep 22 2005, 02:26 PM
Great Result!
Totti's goal was incredeble and Nonda did well too.
rado907
Oct 2 2005, 09:22 AM
Totti tried to take quick free kick, some guy prevented him, the ref knew the rules though and gave the guy second yellow->red.
That's good refereeing.
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In all fairness apparently Roma were a bit unlucky. They made a miss at the end and the counterattack saw Siena score a lucky goal for 2-3. Also, apparently they spent the whole game within the Siena half, and Siena scored 3 goals with their 3 shots in the game.
I suppose if luck starts rolling Roma's way, good things will begin to happen.
Especially when Cassano regains full fitness. With Cassano and Nonda up front, and Totti-Taddei-Mancini supporting them, Roma will roll over everything and everyone.
We'll see.
---
P.S. Lippi should just put Paniccu and Maldini in attack for Italy ;-). They seem to be better striker than Vieri and Gilardino heheheheh...
PazzaInter
Oct 2 2005, 10:08 AM
Yeah this is a terrible result for Roma.
Cipe
Oct 2 2005, 10:11 AM
damn, man i didnt want roma to lose
phranque_kronic
Oct 2 2005, 10:18 AM
Really poor result
We need a reliable goalscorer to step up fast. Everyone in front has been messing up, and its costing us points.
PazzaInter
Oct 2 2005, 11:46 AM
QUOTE(phranque_kronic @ Oct 3 2005, 02:18 AM)
Really poor result
We need a reliable goalscorer to step up fast. Everyone in front has been messing up, and its costing us points.
Yea that mgiht be true, but Roma still conceded 3 goals.
Sniper4
Oct 2 2005, 01:15 PM
Wow, thats shocking to hear...
ffl19
Oct 2 2005, 01:16 PM
bad result

I thought we were unlucky today, but result is what matters in the end
Sniper4
Oct 2 2005, 01:42 PM
I hate AS Roma anyways...
BaldoCalcio
Oct 2 2005, 09:02 PM
Intristing fact:
All of the Siena players who scored against Roma were all ex-Lazio players.
Colonnese: 2000/2001-2002/2003
Negro: 1993/1994-2004/2005
Chiesa: 2002/2003
bretless
Oct 2 2005, 11:29 PM
QUOTE(BaldoCalcio @ Oct 2 2005, 10:02 PM)
Intristing fact:
All of the Siena players who scored against Roma were all ex-Lazio players.
Colonnese: 2000/2001-2002/2003
Negro: 1993/1994-2004/2005
Chiesa: 2002/2003
Talk about adding salt to a wound.
TheWorldGame
Oct 4 2005, 02:31 AM
I was just about to say. How ironic was is that Negro scored against Roma, He was one of the main targets of the Roma Tifo when he was at Lazio.
PazzaInter
Oct 4 2005, 06:05 AM
Poor Roma, id love to see them do well. I honestly cant understand how they have been doing so bad, i still think they have a very good team but they continue to let in the lousiest of goals.
ACMILAN18
Oct 4 2005, 08:51 PM
Really disapointing loss
Siena looks really good so far this year
AC_Milan>*
Oct 4 2005, 09:06 PM
QUOTE(PazzaInter @ Oct 4 2005, 07:05 AM)
Poor Roma, id love to see them do well. I honestly cant understand how they have been doing so bad, i still think they have a very good team but they continue to let in the lousiest of goals.
I agree with you 100%. They're such a great team, but they can't seem to win the games they should. Meh, Milan all the the way
rado907
Oct 4 2005, 10:40 PM
QUOTE(TheWorldGame @ Oct 4 2005, 12:31 AM)
I was just about to say. How ironic was is that Negro scored against Roma, He was one of the main targets of the Roma Tifo when he was at Lazio.
Haha yah I read about that. He was really happy too. He said "When I scored I shouted to the Roma fans 'DO YOU REMEMBER ME?!?!'" Hehe ;-).
Anyway things will pick up, these results are misleading, Roma is playing well but refs and bad luck is screwing them over. Better results will start coming soon.
Cipe
Oct 16 2005, 06:36 PM
im shocked
PazzaInter
Oct 16 2005, 10:49 PM
all i can say is.. pathetic pathetic Roma.
BaldoCalcio
Oct 17 2005, 12:22 AM
And Empoli played with 10 men for the majority of the game.
rado907
Oct 17 2005, 09:45 AM
Sucks.
Spalletti was very dissapointed with the team.
I guess the Lazio game makes or breaks the season or whatever.
Maurinho
Oct 18 2005, 11:50 AM
Sad...to see.
chanpg1
Oct 20 2005, 11:59 PM
awww man...how?
Cipe
Oct 21 2005, 12:32 AM
QUOTE(chanpg1 @ Oct 21 2005, 02:59 PM)
dude they lost lol
chanpg1
Oct 22 2005, 12:00 AM
QUOTE(Inter 4 life @ Oct 20 2005, 10:32 PM)
dude they lost lol

I know lol, what I meant was how can they lose to Empoli (especially when they want to be back as one of the elite teams again)...
     
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