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TheRaze
smile.gif I just want to make a really big list of reasons why Mexico is better than USA, and I thought you guys could help. Just post a reason(fact) why mexico is better, cuz we all know mexico is
Terrible
Reasons Mexico is better

Better League
Better Clubs
More talented players in the Mexican League
More international experience
Plays in tournaments like Copa America, Copa Libertadores, Copa Sudamericana, Mundial de clubes.
Is able to hold it's own against South American and European National Squads. And South American National Clubs.

futbolnosune
better food , better girls , nicer beaches
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its hard to find what were not better at than the gringos...i was gonna say baseball but we beat them last year
Gallo Caliente
QUOTE(futbolnosune @ Jul 12 2006, 09:32 PM) *

better food , better girls , nicer beaches

The Girls For SURE. Specially the girls from Monterrey and Sinaloa. hump.gif

QUOTE(azulite @ Jul 12 2006, 09:33 PM) *

its hard to find what were not better at than the gringos...i was gonna say baseball but we beat them last year


Yea, that was a great day for me. I won 200 bucks that day. bigsmile.gif

and to add to the list

Best Beer
Tequila
Fireworks
kid_a
if you want reasons relating to Futbol than (as already mentioned)

better league
better fan base
more competitiveness
fewer rivalries with other sports
more financial support from companies
better television coverage
more tradition
more international success
and more Mexican players are starting to make the jump to Europe


reasons why we're better overall (and I do love both countries tongue.gif)

better girls
better food
a lot more culture
dont really have feuds with other countries
fewer walmarts
vicente fernandez
americafan
QUOTE(the baumer @ Jul 13 2006, 07:22 PM) *


fewer walmarts



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cebollita
dont really have feuds with other countries hahaha are you kiddin me ? are you from mexico or have you ever been to mexico?
kid_a
QUOTE(cebollita @ Jul 13 2006, 08:08 PM) *

dont really have feuds with other countries hahaha are you kiddin me ? are you from mexico or have you ever been to mexico?


you really like to antagonize me dont you?

when was the last time we invaded another country?
Miguelinho
Are u serious??
Have U been to the US? we've invaded USA!
lol,jp
TheRaze
US invaded Mexico, and now were getting our revenge, with immigration that is lol
kid_a
I meant invade with the military wise-asses tongue.gif

The U.S did take half our territory so the whole immigration thing could be seen as us simply trying to regain our land.
Joel.
I beg to differ. It seems there are more illegal British citizens living in the US than there are any other nationalities, you see I do learn stuff listening to late night radio.
TheRaze
Yeah but their skin color is white, so they dont notice....there is literally so much racism in US, you just dont experience it until you are actually here, they dont show it on news or anything, I say US is the most raciest country there is.
americafan
QUOTE(TheRaze @ Jul 14 2006, 05:22 PM) *

Yeah but their skin color is white, so they dont notice....there is literally so much racism in US, you just dont experience it until you are actually here, they dont show it on news or anything, I say US is the most raciest country there is.


Excellent comment, I agree 100%. Foreigners with white skin never get hassled because they don't fit the profile the US looks for. The profile that they look for is dark skin people, this includes Cubans, Mexicans, Hondurans, Guatemalans, Perubians, etc...... I regret to say that I feel this will never change.
cebollita
thers a lot of racism in the US thats true but like what you were saying about the skin thing its worse in Europe i think
fguzman84
Is mexico better than the USA?
yes and no,
-right now the mexican team is better and has a MUCH stronger fan base.
-the league is better, but that doesnt matter due to the large number of players playing in europe.
-they play in harder tourneys (copa america)

But, the US has a larger money market, which it is starting to tap and get large profits.
-the Youth development has increased, and become important.
-Large pool of great skilled athletes
-american public begining to notice soccer and demanding success.

Sorry but with all that I see the amercan game improving to pass mexico in the future. the USA will have too much money and larger sponsorship. we also have a large mix of people, all races mexican american like myself, african-american, italian american, and etc. with time and money the top athletes will begin to see soccer as an option and play it more. also with a more attack style which is the USA is starting next year will attract more fans and players who all love goals.
as a mexican american i always root for mexico and agree mexico is better but realistically i see what america does and if it wants it and its people want it ....it will do it...with money, determination, and skill. but i do not see this happening for another 10-13 years. also by that time the USA will too play in the copa america.
kid_a
Actually dude I believe the U.S gets an invitation for every Copa America but they dont accept for a few reasons, the official one is that it conflicts with the MLS schedule but realistically it has more to do with lack of security in South America. Mexico gets treated pretty harshly by people when they play in South America, with the kind of negative light the U.S is seen in they would get treated much worse by the fans and nobody would be able to guarantee the team's safety.

I try to be as optimistic as you are about the MLS growing into a decent league but there are just too many obstacles. It competes with the top three U.S sports, the big three along with college sports just get too much air time on TV to allow Soccer to grow the way it should. Also most of the U.S stars play in Europe, which does not work in a country thats used to having the best leagues in every other sport. The consensus is that the best players in the World should play in American leagues (see baseball, basketball, hockey and football) the MLS has too few stars and as soon as players become stars they go overseas. In Mexico the Soccer League is the most followed out of all the sports, the Mexican basketball league is obsolete, american football is limited to college level and the baseball leagues have their followers but do not rival soccer. Corporate sponsorship is already as big in Mexico as it will ever be in the States and because of the large sums of money available some of the best players are reluctant to go play in Europe. Which means that the Mexican league is not only full of Mexican stars but Argentinian, Brazilian and other players like playing in Mexico where they make their moneys. Just look at the career Aguinaga and Cardozo made in Mexico and look at Camoranesi who jumped from Cruz Azul to Europe.

As far as the National teams go, Mexico and the States are in an odd point in history where both teams are just about equal. The U.S beats Mexico in the U.S and Mexico wins in Mexico, it will be like this for a few years, at least until the Mexican player exodus to Europe that we're now seeing starts yielding some results. Than if its true that playing in Europe makes a difference we'll see the Mexican team become a little more dominant than the U.S. Right now they're both pretty equal, both should be ranked along the lines of 15-17 in the world and both are pretty far away from winning any major competitions anytime soon.
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QUOTE(fguzman84 @ Jul 16 2006, 12:22 PM) *
the USA will have too much money and larger sponsorship. we also have a large mix of people, all races mexican american like myself, african-american, italian american, and etc. it will do it

i dont get that whole shit of something-american...specially african-american...WHY ARENT THEY JUST AMERICANS...why african...its racist in my oppinions...and no offense...but there is no mexican-american shit...either your mexican or your american mannn...

QUOTE(fguzman84 @ Jul 16 2006, 12:22 PM) *
...with money, determination, and skill.

money, money money...thats all people think in the US...and money is never gonna be the same as heart...in every aspect you look for money...everyone in the US...no matter if a kid has never kicked a soccer ball, he plays play with $200 nike mercurial vapors...with the official $130 world cup ball in a proffesionall soccer field with goals for specific kids sizes...in mexico...you see people playing in the streets or in a rural area full of mud, or wherever the fuck they want CAN play...but in mexico soccer futbol is played with HEART...and a heart is not worth money
Carl Monday
QUOTE(azulite @ Jul 16 2006, 09:40 PM) *

i dont get that whole shit of something-american...specially african-american...WHY ARENT THEY JUST AMERICANS...why african...its racist in my oppinions...and no offense...but there is no mexican-american shit...either your mexican or your american mannn...


no dumbass there are no mexican americans, but rather hispanics. The "African American" name was picked out by the blacks themselves so how can that be rascist...you're dumber then mariah carey, please refrain from talking about stuff you don't know nothing about


Gallo Caliente
Very True. I have also seen kids in very poor area play bare foot, in rock fields. That shows love of the game.
kid_a
QUOTE(KruegerIndustrialSmoothing @ Jul 16 2006, 09:33 PM) *

no dumbass there are no mexican americans, but rather hispanics. The "African American" name was picked out by the blacks themselves so how can that be rascist...you're dumber then mariah carey, please refrain from talking about stuff you don't know nothing about


Actually most Mexicans, or Mexican Americans dont like to be called hispanics. That goes for most other people categorized as "latinos" since most feel it takes away from their heritage. And lets try not to call people names.
bob
QUOTE(KruegerIndustrialSmoothing @ Jul 16 2006, 09:33 PM) *
no dumbass there are no mexican americans, but rather hispanics. The "African American" name was picked out by the blacks themselves so how can that be rascist...you're dumber then mariah carey, please refrain from talking about stuff you don't know nothing about

Please refrain from namecalling. Thank you.
el_diablo5711
USA > Mexico because i live in America tongue.gif

if i lived in Mexico it would be the other way around. I hold all the cards
TheRaze
IF HE SAYS S-A-B-R-O-S-A AGAIN IM GONNA WATCH IT ON ESPN



lol that was so funny, every time they said his name they had to excagerate on the sabrosa...
¤•«BARCHESTER™»•¤
QUOTE(TheRaze @ Jul 17 2006, 01:55 PM) *

IF HE SAYS S-A-B-R-O-S-A AGAIN IM GONNA WATCH IT ON ESPN
lol that was so funny, every time they said his name they had to excagerate on the sabrosa...


yea...and i hated that...and no wonder KruegerIndustrialSmoothing has a marijuana thing on his avatar...im not gonna say anything else gringo
kid_a
Well this is going nowhere so its being closed, but when he said "sabrosa" it was about the funniest thing I ever heard.
     
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