Copas cost about 80.00 for me.....are these too heavy and do they feel to heavy and i've heard nothing but good about these so im leaning towards them for my highschool season. I don't know how they fare against water, and if they're from germany or indonesia. I'm a 9 in f50's what shold i get in these?

Sheva 7 Extremes look cool but I have no idea how they fit or form.....so if anybody heard anything about them go ahead and tell me...

joma's just kinda look cool and idk how they are but they look cool and somewhat comofortable....


Lotto Stadios look CLASS!!!! But Idk how they are are they better than the copas???


anybody also heard about pony?

I would get the copas. you cant go wrong

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copas...no doubt...theyre heavy but everything else is perfect

copas FTW!

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Copas, they aren't heavy...the whole argument between "heavy" boots or light boots is bs.

Well, I'm a striker I guess they can't be too heavy...Miroslav wears the World Cups which are similar. Do you know if the www.soccer.com are from Indonesia or Germany??

How about a second cleat for other weather and stuff.

All World Cups and Copas are made in Germany now.

will the copas breathe because my foot overheats a lot but i guess thats only for the summer? and can yo urun the same in this compared to like a vapor? have you had v1's?

Yes they breathe because they're leather.

Can you run the same? I think that is the stupid question ive ever had. I run the same speed in my AZT90 as I did in Vapor II's...it's the stupidest thing that people make a deal of! And now i'll get a barrage of "o/\/\G i runz faztor bcoz th3 1 ounce makz a differnt,,,,,,1t MaKEZ a hUGe d1ffrnz".

But whatever, you can't change some peoples minds.

ok first of all......the v1's are 6.8 oz compared to an 11.7 copa thats like half a pound if you actually know what you're talking about....and im not saying o/\/\G i runz faztor bcoz th3 1 ounce makz a differnt,,,,,,1t MaKEZ a hUGe d1ffrnz". thats an insult to some people and maybe they DO think it makes you faster....its just i wanna know if it'll affect the speed of how i run compared to v1's will it be that much different or not different at all.

Ok weight does not effect your speed, BUT your stud configuration does, on copas the stud config isnt really "upto date" and doesnt offer the best traction, whereas with my v1s i get more traction which makes it easier to run, this doesnt mean im playing worste with the copas or that i'll make it faster somewhere with the v1s it simply means that if anything could effect your spead its the stud config! But out of those get copas.

i thihnk i wanna get two pairs......copas and lotto shevas

I'll jump into the arguement as well! It is completely true that the stud configuration have more effect on the speed, but this also depends on the style and surface area. World Cups will be bad on hard ground, causing more slippage then traction compared to Copas say, but vice versa on soft ground.

But then again 'speed' in soccer is not always straight. Usually it is always slightly curved, sometimes changing direction completely, so therefore you need studs that will help you turn better as well.

Ken

i see u have copas...how are they for you


and the most effective move in soccer is "speed' if you didnt know that (all of you)

^And moves are learnt not gained with equpment!

whatever i just got copas and v3's ...(black) for like the next 4 seasons so im fine for now thanks guys....and i no if u didnt know how to step over with old cleats and u got vapors : OMFG MY VAPORS STEPPED OVER DA BALL FO ME!!!! YES!!! you think i am that dumb? it could be easier to do it with vapors than others because there is less weight on ur foot

@ that.

Issue resolved. Topic Closed with my ultra lightweight closed option so it'll do it faster.